A New Catagory For Skinning?
Saturday, June 25, 2005 by Fairyy~ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
~Hi
I'll just be brief and not really intending to point fingers at anyone.
But after viewing a few snitty comments on some WB skins ( and I'll remind everyone that blinds are shared and if you don't like it, don't download it, simple )
The real Topic here is what about starting a catagory for " New Skinners "
Several of the " women " of WC have their own little test group. Others don't have that pleasure of being able to test their work before uploading it.
Wouldnt it be nice to be able to upload a skin just to see if your doing anything RIGHT rather than being told everything thats wrong..or worse yet, being laughed at by people that forget they once had to start somewhere .
Im happy with just tweaking others blinds. Way too much involved in skinning an entire blind.
But..a catagory that has no ratings..( doesnt have to be viewed by the public..could be just members of WC)
Just a thought.......
I'll just be brief and not really intending to point fingers at anyone.
But after viewing a few snitty comments on some WB skins ( and I'll remind everyone that blinds are shared and if you don't like it, don't download it, simple )
The real Topic here is what about starting a catagory for " New Skinners "
Several of the " women " of WC have their own little test group. Others don't have that pleasure of being able to test their work before uploading it.
Wouldnt it be nice to be able to upload a skin just to see if your doing anything RIGHT rather than being told everything thats wrong..or worse yet, being laughed at by people that forget they once had to start somewhere .
Im happy with just tweaking others blinds. Way too much involved in skinning an entire blind.
But..a catagory that has no ratings..( doesnt have to be viewed by the public..could be just members of WC)
Just a thought.......
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JAYdd
Reply #22 Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:17 AM
Reply #22 Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:17 AM
tremendioua idea !! 
I've only been uploading work for about a month or so & people do tend to forget that people learn & imoprove in time, ( I'm still waiting for that to happen! maybe one day!
).
A lot of skinners on WC are from the USA & Canada so I felt like a omplete Alien outsider the fist time I raised my head, so thanks to all who gave their support & made me feel welcome.
Just one thing before I go, because it's really getting up my nose !
How does a skin become official ? ( if you have an official skin, does this make you better than everyone else? ........... mmmmm.
Are the licenses delivered by Dreamworks or perhaps the might Lucas himself !!
I was just wondering because I was thinking about releasing a plain black wall with a single white pixel in the misddle & calling it the official snow flake or maybe the official star, ( has a kinda ring to it), If it's official, it must be good...
Sorry about the rant, I just had to get it off my chest...
I've only been uploading work for about a month or so & people do tend to forget that people learn & imoprove in time, ( I'm still waiting for that to happen! maybe one day!
).A lot of skinners on WC are from the USA & Canada so I felt like a omplete Alien outsider the fist time I raised my head, so thanks to all who gave their support & made me feel welcome.
Just one thing before I go, because it's really getting up my nose !
How does a skin become official ? ( if you have an official skin, does this make you better than everyone else? ........... mmmmm.
Are the licenses delivered by Dreamworks or perhaps the might Lucas himself !!
I was just wondering because I was thinking about releasing a plain black wall with a single white pixel in the misddle & calling it the official snow flake or maybe the official star, ( has a kinda ring to it), If it's official, it must be good...
Sorry about the rant, I just had to get it off my chest...
Jafo
Reply #23 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:29 AM
Reply #23 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:29 AM
| How does a skin become official ? |
Certain works are commissioned by the company/corporation....are 'paid for'. The Skins Factory is one such example....doing commissioned works for commercial release.
To be 'Official' there's a corporate/copyright agreement....it's not just a 'name'....
thomassen
Reply #24 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:40 AM
That is important. Encouragement. Constructive critisizm is useful to point out where more work is needed, but it's just as useful to know what's good, or better. Helps the morale.
Reply #24 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:40 AM
| Just maybe a bit of encouragement..something positive about someone's work,even if its only the color or a button |
That is important. Encouragement. Constructive critisizm is useful to point out where more work is needed, but it's just as useful to know what's good, or better. Helps the morale.
JAYdd
Reply #25 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:50 AM
Thanks for keeping me in check 'Admin Jafo'.
Looking back at my entry, I think there could be a hint of envy in there somewhere..... maybe
Appologies if I offended anybody, It wasnt aimed at anybody in particular (
).
I think I'm just having a bad day....
Reply #25 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:50 AM
| To be 'Official' there's a corporate/copyright agreement....it's not just a 'name'.... |
Thanks for keeping me in check 'Admin Jafo'.
Looking back at my entry, I think there could be a hint of envy in there somewhere..... maybe
Appologies if I offended anybody, It wasnt aimed at anybody in particular (
).I think I'm just having a bad day....
JAYdd
Reply #26 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:52 AM
Reply #26 Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:52 AM
( IMUST GET OUT THE HABBIT OF USING SO MANY SMILEYS !!)....... Sorry!
Fairyy~
Reply #27 Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:20 AM
Reply #27 Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:20 AM
Jaydd...you have a right to add your comments with or without smilies. Im not sure I understood completely but thats ok too. You mentioned that most are from USA and Canada. Actually people here are from all over the world. I think sometimes that maybe part of the problem...sometimes things are phrased in a way that its mistaken and its usually a language barrier. Sometimes what is just a normal form of "wit" can look like a sarcastic comment. I'm no angel..I've been known to be snitty at times. But, I do try not insults someones work.
~Much better to point out what a person can do to improve something....especially a first skin...you want them to keep with it. Not be discouraged and give up on the whole idea. My problem is tons of ideas......but..no clue to bringing it to life most days..thats what friends are for...
| Constructive critisizm is useful to point out where more work is needed, |
~Much better to point out what a person can do to improve something....especially a first skin...you want them to keep with it. Not be discouraged and give up on the whole idea. My problem is tons of ideas......but..no clue to bringing it to life most days..thats what friends are for...
shhitsNio
Reply #28 Monday, June 27, 2005 1:48 PM
Reply #28 Monday, June 27, 2005 1:48 PM
hi,
I'm not a skinner. I'm a programmer.. my realm is just the harmony of just lines and lines of code, but I do frequent WC though to check out a lot of the artistry and insight being done to help improve UI development (good job to all). A section devoted for newbies, gathering critique and such, in my opinion is very useful. As long it's used for its intended purposes .. otherwise its just another area for people to slam others (worst case).
That's my take .. but I could be wrong
carry on .. have a nice day =D
I'm not a skinner. I'm a programmer.. my realm is just the harmony of just lines and lines of code, but I do frequent WC though to check out a lot of the artistry and insight being done to help improve UI development (good job to all). A section devoted for newbies, gathering critique and such, in my opinion is very useful. As long it's used for its intended purposes .. otherwise its just another area for people to slam others (worst case).
That's my take .. but I could be wrong
carry on .. have a nice day =D
Jafo
Reply #29 Monday, June 27, 2005 6:18 PM
Reply #29 Monday, June 27, 2005 6:18 PM
| As long it's used for its intended purposes .. otherwise its just another area for people to slam others (worst case). |
Yes...that's a distinct possibility.....a 'let's go over to the cage and stir up the newbies for a laugh' sort of thing.
If/when some such feature/section is added it'd need close supervision to ensure people were NOT actively discouraged rather than encouraged...
Fairyy~
Reply #30 Monday, June 27, 2005 7:38 PM
Thats a good point. Not sure how to avoid this situation unless the section was watched by volunteers or only certain people had access to be able to comment.
Im not sure thats a possibility..hopefully it can be worked out.
Reply #30 Monday, June 27, 2005 7:38 PM
| Yes...that's a distinct possibility.....a 'let's go over to the cage and stir up the newbies for a laugh' sort of thing. If/when some such feature/section is added it'd need close supervision to ensure people were NOT actively discouraged rather than encouraged.. |
Thats a good point. Not sure how to avoid this situation unless the section was watched by volunteers or only certain people had access to be able to comment.
Im not sure thats a possibility..hopefully it can be worked out.
MountainDragon
Reply #31 Monday, June 27, 2005 8:03 PM
Why not make commenting contingent on having submitted a skin to the library?
Reply #31 Monday, June 27, 2005 8:03 PM
| If/when some such feature/section is added it'd need close supervision to ensure people were NOT actively discouraged rather than encouraged. |
Why not make commenting contingent on having submitted a skin to the library?
_TAPPER_
Reply #32 Monday, June 27, 2005 8:03 PM
Perhaps only members with a rating of (x) or higher would bel allowed to comment.That way only those who know what they are doing would be able to critique anothers work.
Don't know if this can be done. Just a thought.
Reply #32 Monday, June 27, 2005 8:03 PM
| only certain people had access to be able to comment. |
Perhaps only members with a rating of (x) or higher would bel allowed to comment.That way only those who know what they are doing would be able to critique anothers work.
Don't know if this can be done. Just a thought.
_TAPPER_
Reply #33 Monday, June 27, 2005 8:05 PM
I need to be more careful. Been doing too much of this lately. One of these days I'm going to hurt myself
Reply #33 Monday, June 27, 2005 8:05 PM
| Just a thought. |
I need to be more careful. Been doing too much of this lately. One of these days I'm going to hurt myself
Jafo
Reply #34 Monday, June 27, 2005 9:19 PM
Reply #34 Monday, June 27, 2005 9:19 PM
"Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous"...
EasyRider2
Reply #35 Monday, June 27, 2005 10:18 PM
Reply #35 Monday, June 27, 2005 10:18 PM
Mr EasyRider2 let's not drag up the obnoxious past. If you have an issue with someone via comments on Deviantart.com .... leave them there. That will be just fine and dandy, thankyou.
Jafo...no my problem is with you. and I dont mind settling it on Deviant Art...btw nice site you have..do you wanna keep it?
Jafo...no my problem is with you. and I dont mind settling it on Deviant Art...btw nice site you have..do you wanna keep it?
Jafo
Reply #36 Monday, June 27, 2005 10:23 PM
Reply #36 Monday, June 27, 2005 10:23 PM
| btw nice site you have..do you wanna keep it? |
Sounds curiously 'threatening'.
Hardly wise....
Snowman
Reply #37 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:30 AM
Reply #37 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:30 AM
| Sounds curiously 'threatening' |
Like he could actually do anything about it....
Anyway, great day today eh?
Double Zero
Reply #38 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:00 AM
Reply #38 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:00 AM
I had a thought as well..it's at least my 3rd this year!..LoL
What if Skinners with only journeyman status were allowed to comment upon the skins posted in the "New Talent" section?
I am assuming that the Journeymen would not bash/flame/ridicule the works in progress but instead offer very good advice\tips\tricks that perhaps alot of us could learn from...
From what I have witnessed it is usually a person that has no clue about the whole "Skinning" process that is the worst offender...
I dont know if thats possible, but it would be the safest I think, if the main objective is to provide an area for new skinners gain useful criticism rather than useless and offensive abuse..
EasyRider - LMAO... There is an old saying and I think it's useful advice.. "Dont allow your Gorilla Mouth to get your Hummingbird Butt into something you'll be sorry about later" Hmmmm... that must be my 4th thought this year!!..LoL
What if Skinners with only journeyman status were allowed to comment upon the skins posted in the "New Talent" section?
I am assuming that the Journeymen would not bash/flame/ridicule the works in progress but instead offer very good advice\tips\tricks that perhaps alot of us could learn from...
From what I have witnessed it is usually a person that has no clue about the whole "Skinning" process that is the worst offender...
I dont know if thats possible, but it would be the safest I think, if the main objective is to provide an area for new skinners gain useful criticism rather than useless and offensive abuse..
EasyRider - LMAO... There is an old saying and I think it's useful advice.. "Dont allow your Gorilla Mouth to get your Hummingbird Butt into something you'll be sorry about later" Hmmmm... that must be my 4th thought this year!!..LoL
Jafo
Reply #39 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:19 AM
Reply #39 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:19 AM
I'm still thinking of LS.net [I think it was]...where each 'skinner' could decide if he wished to receive comments from everyone...or just fellow skinners.....the argument being that the latter would [generally] have a better understanding of what he was looking at than, say, the casual user.
If there was a 'way' to set that up...it'd be perfect for such a section....though then there might be a need to differentiate between skin types....eg a Beatnik skin is a wee bit simpler than a Windowblind skin...
Grimnir M
Reply #40 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:54 AM
Reply #40 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:54 AM
Good concepts just wish it could be for more than just window blinds.
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Reply #21 Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:54 AM
It's a great idea, just as it was when MAdIce suggested something very similar over a year ago........... but his idea wouldn't have been restricted to new skinners, but would have been a 'works in progress' section.
~Yes, your right that it needs a bit more than just beginners. They're probably arent enough "Newbies" to dedicate a section to just for this. Thats why I asked for others to add to the idea.
More importantly....in the current sections...if there are particularly obnoxious comments posted just let an admin know...so they [and their poster perhaps] can be dealt with.
Rather than have an area where overly-sensitive people can 'hide'...it's probably more beneficial to manage the trolls so hiding isn't necessary..
~Actually Jafo, the rude comments I've seen..the person(s) that made the blinds in several cases..they never replied to the rude comments at all. The blinds I'm referring to usually are rated with only 1 star, so I wonder how many actually ever see these blinds. I look at everything. Unfortunately there are a few people that think its ok or funny to say " Nothing special " or " who uses this crap "
or just post laughing smilies. I can guarantee you they didn't even download the blind at all. I noticed the more " professional " skinners had a bit more class in their comments or refrained from commenting at all. I'm not asking for "false praise " Just maybe a bit of encouragement..something positive about someone's work,even if its only the color or a button.
~So many of you are very tallented..and do share your knowledge and are more than willing to help out. I'm glad to see some imput on this idea and I hope more people will join in with their ideas and perhaps come up with something that will benefit all.
PS: boss..I clicked that link..kinda wish I hadn't even looked at it. Im glad WC has better moderation..I've seen your logons..I have tried to make a logon..I failed misrably .. but your right, there is much more satisfaction in making something yourself than pretending someone else's work is yours.