A New Catagory For Skinning?
Saturday, June 25, 2005 by Fairyy~ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
~Hi
I'll just be brief and not really intending to point fingers at anyone.
But after viewing a few snitty comments on some WB skins ( and I'll remind everyone that blinds are shared and if you don't like it, don't download it, simple )
The real Topic here is what about starting a catagory for " New Skinners "
Several of the " women " of WC have their own little test group. Others don't have that pleasure of being able to test their work before uploading it.
Wouldnt it be nice to be able to upload a skin just to see if your doing anything RIGHT rather than being told everything thats wrong..or worse yet, being laughed at by people that forget they once had to start somewhere .
Im happy with just tweaking others blinds. Way too much involved in skinning an entire blind.
But..a catagory that has no ratings..( doesnt have to be viewed by the public..could be just members of WC)
Just a thought.......
I'll just be brief and not really intending to point fingers at anyone.
But after viewing a few snitty comments on some WB skins ( and I'll remind everyone that blinds are shared and if you don't like it, don't download it, simple )
The real Topic here is what about starting a catagory for " New Skinners "
Several of the " women " of WC have their own little test group. Others don't have that pleasure of being able to test their work before uploading it.
Wouldnt it be nice to be able to upload a skin just to see if your doing anything RIGHT rather than being told everything thats wrong..or worse yet, being laughed at by people that forget they once had to start somewhere .
Im happy with just tweaking others blinds. Way too much involved in skinning an entire blind.
But..a catagory that has no ratings..( doesnt have to be viewed by the public..could be just members of WC)
Just a thought.......
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Reply #3 Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:51 PM
Reply #3 Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:51 PM
That sounds like a fantastic idea! Wish I'd thought of it! LOL 
_TAPPER_
Reply #4 Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:48 PM
Im'm not a subscriber (yet) but this makes a lot of sense to me. As you say much of the critisisms are not constructive but destructive. Hope stardock works on this.
Reply #4 Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:48 PM
| But..a catagory that has no ratings..( doesnt have to be viewed by the public..could be just members of WC) |
Im'm not a subscriber (yet) but this makes a lot of sense to me. As you say much of the critisisms are not constructive but destructive. Hope stardock works on this.
Fairyy~
Reply #5 Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:48 PM
And another good reason to be a subscriber
Im glad a few think its a good idea. I know I've mentioned this on other threads but felt maybe it should be on a thread by itself. Maybe it would be taken more seriously.
In regards to the trial system the ladies were doing..the woman making the blinds..well her first few were ..rather..ummm..lets just say if we had told her everything that was wrong, she may have never produced all the beautiful blinds she started making at the end. It was kinda fun watching her progress from crooked margins to blinds that are unique and i'm proud to have them in my skin library alongside the professionals.
Reply #5 Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:48 PM
| m'm not a subscriber (yet) but this makes a lot of sense to me |
And another good reason to be a subscriber
Im glad a few think its a good idea. I know I've mentioned this on other threads but felt maybe it should be on a thread by itself. Maybe it would be taken more seriously.
In regards to the trial system the ladies were doing..the woman making the blinds..well her first few were ..rather..ummm..lets just say if we had told her everything that was wrong, she may have never produced all the beautiful blinds she started making at the end. It was kinda fun watching her progress from crooked margins to blinds that are unique and i'm proud to have them in my skin library alongside the professionals.
EasyRider2
Reply #7 Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:07 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:07 PM
Fairyy you have a great idea. There should be a place where new people can upload their works and not be judged, but instead encouraged and helped. There is a lot of work in making a windowblind and if more people would help it would benefit your whole community. After all new people dont got to go through some of the crap that I know some people went through. They shoudl be encouraged, helped and applauded for their efforts.
(a direct quote from Butch123)
(a direct quote from Butch123)
Boss019
Reply #8 Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:27 PM
Reply #8 Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:27 PM
How would you know what work goes into making a windowblind, Mr EasyRider2 (aka Butch123)? All you can do is push a button in Skin Studio and make crappy ports. Go away! 
Koasati
Reply #9 Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:50 PM
Reply #9 Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:50 PM
It's a great idea, just as it was when MAdIce suggested something very similar over a year ago........... but his idea wouldn't have been restricted to new skinners, but would have been a 'works in progress' section.
MountainDragon
Reply #10 Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:15 PM
Reply #10 Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:15 PM
Sounds like a good idea. Kind of like a workshop area, and perhaps the right to comment would come with the act of actually uploading a blind. That way, people can still look "over the shoulders" of those doing the work, and people IN the workshop can dialog about it. I myself have yet to embark on a WB project, but I am interested, and it would be encouraging to see "works in progress".
EasyRider2
Reply #11 Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:23 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:23 PM
Boss019 You know boss who i am is irrelevant..if I am Butch123 or if i am easyrider..thats irrelevant.. first of all you are off topic here, and dont you know that jealousy doesnt become a man of your age? Remember the old saying..them that can do...them that cant, shoot their mouth off ! Oh yeah I saw all your comments you made to Butch on Deviant Art and not very pleasant ones either, but I've yet to see one that Butch has made to you. If so, could you please supply a link if he has? Which you cant cause he hasnt..he has more class than that ! Now to get back on topic..i hope for all new people here this thing goes through and they can find a place they can get helped and encouraged.
BlueDev
Reply #13 Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:46 PM
Reply #13 Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:46 PM
I don't think having a spot for "new skinners" is a good idea. But tweaking it a bit, as Koasati mentioned, is a great idea, and have a 'Works in Progress" section. That would be swell. That could also avoid people who knowingly post 'beta' WB skins to the library.
Double Zero
Reply #14 Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:04 PM
Reply #14 Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:04 PM
i agree with Koasati, A "Works in Progress" area would be beneficial to new skinners.. They could upload what they have created and get tips,pointers and/or help with certain aspects of their work without (hopefully) taking alot of harsh criticism that seems to be the highlight of so many "non-skinners" to dish out...
Good Idea Fairyy, Kaosati...You have my vote!
Good Idea Fairyy, Kaosati...You have my vote!
Phoon
Reply #15 Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:18 PM
Reply #15 Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:18 PM
Yes, similar to Skinartistry's Workshop would be a nice treat. Providing it is policed for rude, non contructive comments.
Jafo
Reply #16 Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:39 PM
Reply #16 Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:39 PM
More importantly....in the current sections...if there are particularly obnoxious comments posted just let an admin know...so they [and their poster perhaps] can be dealt with.
Rather than have an area where overly-sensitive people can 'hide'...it's probably more beneficial to manage the trolls so hiding isn't necessary...
Mr EasyRider2 let's not drag up the obnoxious past. If you have an issue with someone via comments on Deviantart.com .... leave them there. That will be just fine and dandy, thankyou.
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #17 Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:07 PM
Reply #17 Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:07 PM
If everyone one would lets say form a group here for what I would say is a work-shop. Then maybe we can get some approval for an irc channel for communications and a section to post said working WB's to be seen by those who would help out with the artist and meet with them to help improve the art work. I believe this a very good idea - esp. for those artist who would like to learn more about skinning and get some really good tips to getting their works more ready for a good posting to the wb's section for a finished product.
All those that would like to take part in this please contact Frog Boy to let him know you are for or against such a thing happening here at WC.
Thanks all and I hope it happens!
SGTCW
All those that would like to take part in this please contact Frog Boy to let him know you are for or against such a thing happening here at WC.
Thanks all and I hope it happens!
SGTCW
-xino
Reply #18 Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:42 PM
Reply #18 Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:42 PM
I'm not sure that volunteering Brad for emails is such a good idea.
Koasati
Reply #19 Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:30 AM
Reply #19 Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:30 AM
Brad gets a gazillion emails a day as it is......... do not send him more to wade through.
Jafo
Reply #20 Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:16 AM
Reply #20 Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:16 AM
#Wincustomize is already in place for skinning/social discussion.... and #stardock is for program 'issues' in particular.
So, IRC is catered for...
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Reply #1 Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:59 PM