Global poll slams Bush leadership

Tuesday, January 18, 2005 by thethimble | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

More than half of people surveyed in a BBC World Service poll say the re-election of US President George W Bush has made the world more dangerous.

Only three countries - India, Poland and the Philippines - out of 21 polled believed the world was now safer.

The survey found that 47% now viewed US influence in the world as largely negative and such unfavourable feelings extended towards Americans as a whole.

None of the countries polled supported contributing their troops to Iraq.

"Negative feelings about Bush are high and are generalising to the American people who re-elected him."

On average across all countries, 58% of people - and 16 out of 21 countries polled - said they believed Mr Bush's re-election to the White House made the world more dangerous.
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NightTrainthedark
Reply #1 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:00 PM
The survey found that 47% now viewed US influence in the world as largely negative and such unfavourable feelings extended towards Americans as a whole.

So the poll says that 47% of the people polled are racists also.
joeKnowledge
Reply #2 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:13 PM
Wow.

Kinda makes you think of the World of Warcraft huh????
RTCP
Reply #3 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:41 PM
POLL's!!! We help everyone in this WORLD when they are in NEED. And polls state they don't like us. Who assists us the (USA) when we have problems? The help really came fast when FLA. had problems last year. $350 million is said to be not enough in the last month,with more to come from the citizens of this GREAT country.I may be mixed up,but I just don't understand.
Bulletcatcher
Reply #4 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:29 AM
everybody wants to knock you when you are at the top

...yes thats an arrogant statement and why other countries probably hate us (i was kinda joking) ..nobody likes to pay attention to the positive the United States has done for the world. As for Bush, I voted for him, i think considering all that the nation has gone through he did a good job in holding it together and going to whip up on those who need it, and he's not perfect but i think everyone should cut some slack and give a little respect for his place in office at least I didn't really care for Kerry but if he was president i wouldn't be talking smack about him all of the time, he'd be our president and i'd respect him as it..iono just my political two-cents
Old_Crab
Reply #5 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:45 AM
I respect the office of the Presidency, not the office holder.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #6 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:24 AM
I'm with bulletcatcher and Old Crab. I support our president. Period. Whether I voted for him, like him or not. I respect the position. Nothing worse than a mutinous ship. If I really have issues, this country allows you to vote every four years. You can't ask for more than that.
Lantec
Reply #7 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:29 AM
I didn't vote for a president of the world, I voted for a President of the United States. The rest of the world likes a weak, meek USA like we had during the Carter years. Boy that was a safe time in the world....... Who believes that Quaddafi would have given up his Nuke program under different leadership? I notice Syria's not currently exhorting it's people to take up arms against the west. Even the Saudi's are starting to avoid supporting terrorists outright. The North Koreans are back at the table talking about their Nukes as are the Iranians. I think the citizens of the world who enjoy these polls should take up the issue of a leader who brainwashes a child into strapping explosives to his body and set them off in a public square. Or pays a family so that their son can drive a vehicle into a group of people and blow it up. You'll notice that those leaders never actually Martyr themselves (chickensh*ts) Arafat died in bed. Hussien hid in a rabbit hole same as Al Quada leadership does now. Point to a single leader in the world who has helped make the world a safer place from his post. I'm not talking about whiners (France) only doers. Hell I can't even remember most of their names.
Island Dog
Reply #8 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:15 AM
How surprising coming from the bbc. Great points there lantec. I bet most of these "countries" that were polled, have more serious issues then worrying about the President of the U.S.

Most people around the world are misinformed. I have read the foreign papers and their bias is so extreme, it's almost sad.
CygnusXII
Reply #9 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:12 PM
It all comes down to History repeating itself, once again. Petty bickering, lambasting and Ungratitude towards the USA. The "haves" are once again, railing against the "have nots." Some accuse the people of USA of being self absorbed, and wrapped up and cock sure of themselves, and guess what we are just that. The one thing though is, given half a chance those same folks would knock our borders down to get here.
The United States Never joined the original League of Nations (precursor to the UN) http://tinyurl.com/6mydf, and should have done the same thing with the United Nations http://tinyurl.com/66anc.
I am a Bush Supporter, I voted for him, and straight Party Ticket for the rest of the Candidates. I do not agree with everything He's done (by far) and I know there will be a price to pay, for a lot of things done in the pursuit of "PEACE and SECURITY." You know what? After getting hosed by the Democrats for 50 years, It's about time my TEAM got to waste Americans Taxes, for a change.
WebGizmos
Reply #10 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:56 PM
IMO...The problem with this country is that "United" does not apply. Every year it's the same old dribble..it's us (the dems) against them (the repubs) and god forbid anyone ever entertain the idea of fresh ideas with independent parties. Maybe one day we will truly be United, but presently we are more divided than anything.

I'm sorry...I love this country...but unless the people of this country wake up and stop this tunnel vision thinking of a 2 party system (division) and start working together (United) we will never be the great country we could be. I support the idea of a president, but our recent past presidents and present president have left much to be desired.

What this country really needs are far younger people in government that actually have a stake in the future of this country, instead of one foot in the grave and won't be here to see the outcome of their greedy policies that cater to the rich.

As long as people actually believe the crap these 2 parties dole out every year in the way of empty promises and lies, we will never realize true peace in the world or an end to poverty. Elections have become an embarrassment with all the petty bickering and finger pointing. Ever year we expect less and less of our presidents and elect them for all the wrong reasons.

We should have never gone to war over what amounted to nothing more than an exaggerated example of your neighborhood bully who was in love with himself and believed his own bull and DID NOT have any weapons of mass destruction other than the ones daddy bush already gave him. The only threat Saddam was, was to his own people. But now because of Bush's stubbornness and ignorance we have decent americans and iraqis dying in droves over there for nothing. If Bush had pulled out our troops when Saddam was captured he might have saved face...but his ego got in the way. Way to go Mr.Mission Accomplished! What a joke!

And the best words of wisdom this presidency could come up with was...buy duct tape, plastic sheeting, and go shopping!?. And lets not forget that really efficient terror level warning system!? Really makes you feel safe all over huh! Give me a break! I have no doubt that scholars of the past are rolling in their graves and laughing their butts off over those words of witlessness!

And thanks to Bush, americans got, and will get to experience first hand what terrorism is delivered right to your front door. So...while our president is holding us together (from a safe bunker), you'll be putting up duct tape and plastic sheeting. Gee...I feel safe already just knowing that!

And no...I can't think of one single world leader that has made this world a safer place to live, especially the one we have now. If anything, he has raised the terror level to an all time high and is making this country more vulnerable and hated than ever.

And lastly...A president does not hold a country together..."we the people" do that.

Thanks Mr.Bush...mission accomplished!
tjesterb
Reply #11 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:44 PM
.....but, how do you really feel?
Bulletcatcher
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:55 PM
so.. bought that Fahrenheit911 on dvd?
Island Dog
Reply #13 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:07 PM
And thanks to Bush, americans got, and will get to experience first hand what terrorism is delivered right to your front door. So...while our president is holding us together (from a safe bunker), you'll be putting up duct tape and plastic sheeting. Gee...I feel safe already just knowing that!


Are you saying Bush was responsible for Sept. 11?


We should have never gone to war over what amounted to nothing more than an exaggerated example of your neighborhood bully who was in love with himself and believed his own bull and DID NOT have any weapons of mass destruction other than the ones daddy bush already gave him. The only threat Saddam was, was to his own people. But now because of Bush's stubbornness and ignorance we have decent americans and iraqis dying in droves over there for nothing. If Bush had pulled out our troops when Saddam was captured he might have saved face...but his ego got in the way. Way to go Mr.Mission Accomplished! What a joke!


We went to war with the intention to remove Saddam Hussien which was offical U.S. policy signed under President Clinton. Almost everybody believed Saddam had WMD. Even John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and other "mainstream" democrats agreed with the intelligence they saw. Most other countries came to the same conclusion.

And to your reference that Bush sold WMD to Iraq is just false. Iraq was given culture samples like any other country that requested them. The equipment used to turn those into weapons was sold to Iraq by the french, along with a great deal of other weapons.

Another false statement is that Saddam was not a threat. Saddam attempted to assasinate a U.S. President, fired on our planes on a daily basis while enforcing U.N. sanctions, attacked Israel, funding suicide bombers against Israel, and was indicted by the Clinton administration for cooperating with Al Qaeda. So please save the "he wasn't a threat" nonsense.

The problem most people have, and that especially goes for other countries is they only see the bad things on the news, and read website who hang on to crazy conspiracy theories. My cousin recently returned from Iraq and told me many interesting things. He had many stories of Iraqis coming up to him and others and thanking them for removing Saddam and trying to bring freedom to them. But you wouldn't know that because the news doesn't report things like that, and if they do they are labels as "propaganda" machines for Bush. The terrorists in Iraq are a small minority, it's sad they get such major headlines. When the elections in Iraq are over, that will make two nations formerly run by brutal regimes, that will have had free and democratic elections. If you think the world isn't better off, then you are sadly misinformed.
Lantec
Reply #14 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:34 PM
To pick up where Island Dog left off. Those Americans in Irag are part of our Volunteer Military. Doing what they believe in. As I sit in my easy chair I don't feel I have the right to second guess their decision. I'm sure when Webgizmos served his country he also believed in what he was doing. It's a good thing we have the freedom in this country to disagree about such things as who should be president and what the priorities of this president should be. I served in the military under Jimmy Carter. The rest of the world was laughing at us then. I voted for Ross Perot. He had good ideas for change that were needed at the time. Just because he didn't win does not mean he had no effect on the overall political situation. It proved to the people running the two major parties that they needed to account for the conservative moderates if they wanted to win elections.
Back to Iraq, the people our soldiers are in conflict with are not all Iraqis. It seems that as soon as we show up every son of a goat with a bad case of brainwash heads for Iraq to join up with the insurgents.
One more thing, how many terrorist attacks have there been on American soil since 911?
MorghainenCorae
Reply #15 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:22 PM
If you all believe bush is a good man... I hope your ready for HJ's and crooked crosses... his grandfather was a traitor (Prescott Bush sold Nazi Germany 34% of it's weapons grade steel), he's more like king Agamemnon (making big pontifications at the expense of our boys, while he stays behind a safe desk... or dodges real war and fakes an Air Guard stint) than any recent pres... His election got a huge image boost from the son of an SS trooper (Arnold Swartzneger((SP?))... He has caused more damage to civil freedoms than ANY president in history (while evoking the name of Martin Luther King Jr. to make himself look good)... He is responsible for the leadership that lost more money than any in history over 60% of the stock market value... He's the only pres. to lose jobs nation wide in history... The only pres to make a non legal preemptive strike aginst a soverign nation... His vice pres tells congress to F*** off, when our nation needed our military in the air (9.11) where were they on his watch... he was reading stories to kids, his daddy was in the white house runnin things... His financial plans are certainly not working... No weapons of mass distruction or Al Qeada ties in Iraq... where's Osama George?... either he don't know or he does not need the BAD MAN right now... He has destroyed the constitution... giving money to only Christian faith based charities... jailing people without trial indeffinatly... torture... accusing France of trading with Saddom for oil while turning his nose to us doing it... alienating us from the rest of the civilized world... spending a billion a week on a war thats getting worse... to which he claimed victory even before it had really begun... Americans on average have worse health care than most 2nd world nations... destroying our enviornmental progress and calling it the "Clean Air Act"... restarting the cold war (the only true good accomplishment Reagan made to the world)... snubbing the Tech industry that spawned our country's largest and most profitable period of growth... ARE YOU BUSH LOVERS MASOCHISTS OR JUST MISGUIDED... what do you read that makes you think he's doing any kind of good job... look all these accusations up... in our local media and abroad... they are all true... all of them... and all you have to offer is no terrorist attacks on american soil since 9.11... no need we are driving our own dumb rear ends into the dirt... If Osama is an independant opperative
than he is laughing at us as we play the game he want's us too and the once great nation we were is now burning in front of our eyes... I am ashamed... at all americans... all of us....
Action_Jay
Reply #16 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:28 PM
I spent Christmas and New Year's last year in the states. Never again! The constant paranoia stressed me out. The family I was staying with kept the TV and radio on constantly 'just in case'. Even on the bus crossing the border we were given regular updates on the terror alert level. Along with countless Americans, I was made to feel totally unsafe, and for no good reason.

You want world leaders who brainwash their citizens? Bush is your man!


How many terrorist attacks sine 9/11? None. Before 9/11? Also none!

Before this nonsense, people didn't even know Al Queda existed. They didn't know who Bin Laden is. Even still, it took one actual attack to turn the disjointed country on their ear. Can you imagine how countries who live -daily- with bombings and terrorism must feel? The 'we the people - we the victims' approach is appalling to the rest of the world.


Bush and his policies did cause 9/11. No two ways about it. I won't say he conspired with the terrorists responsible, but he certainly let them get away with it. How many airbases did those hijacked planes pass? Why weren't they shot down? Bush's justification for liberating the oil in iraq is transparent enough that the entire world outside the States can see it. Thus, negative reviews in the world's eye. It's only a matter of time until the world gets fed up with it and some countries band together to liberate the States the same way Bush is liberating Iraq. Hey, it happened to Hitler.
47songs
Reply #17 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:33 PM
This thread could turn into another war. I like comming here because of the community devoted to desktop customization. I like a lot of what I've read on this site from many different people. About what brought them here, about their personal lives, the tutorials, and on and on. I would like it to stay that way.

I found the last election proved that we are a divided nation. I found it to be draining, physically, mentally, and emotionally. It would be nice to keep Wincustomize from becoming a divided web site.

I have no right to ask anyone here to stop posting about politics. However, there are more productive sites dedicated to politics where you could discuss in length all your political views. One that I've frequented is called Political Crossfire. If you're interested here's a link to the site:
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/?proceed=1&counter=1

Please?
tjesterb
Reply #18 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:34 PM
Comment removed. DonnaG types faster than me.
47songs
Reply #19 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:36 PM
Sorry, tjesterb! heh! Were you about to say sometihng similar?
tjesterb
Reply #20 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:44 PM
Just a little sarcasm that seemed inappropriate after your call for a peaceful discussion. Thanks for (hopefully) keeping this from turning into a total flame war.

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