Oh my GOD! school administrators are sooooooo dumb!
they freak out when you get into MSDOS/Command prompt
Tuesday, January 11, 2005 by MadPyro | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
so funny. it started with a net send message to my friend saying "hi"
problem is that we arent supposed to be able to get into drive C: to access the command.com file right? wrong. easy enough to access it using any application out there. MORONS
ok, so i net send a message to my friend... that was yesterday...
today, 6th period, 2 security personelle come in to escort me to the friggin principals office. HA! i need no escort... i walk calmly to the office and sit down to wait.
chat a little with the security morons and find out that this is about MSDOS and me. quickly, i formulate a plan in my mind: bullshit em so much that they wont even know it.
so, finally, the principal calls me in and asks me to sit down, the two security morons on either side of me.
"so, do you know what this is about?"
"well kind of, steve [security moron #1] hinted that its about msdos stuff"
"yes, you see, we have disabled command prompt from these school computers for a reason, so that kids [pauses] cant harm the school's system and somehow, you managed to get into it and did something there..."
"yes?"
"and we feel that this may pose a threat to our system"
"*chuckle*"
"whats so funny?"
"well, you see, two things;
1. command prompt isnt disabled, its hidden in drive C: to which the system doesnt allow access.
2. MSDOS cant do much against xp. all i did was test sending a message to a friend using net send, it worked so i was like sweet!"
"yes and we feel that this can be a threat to us."
"sir, if i wanted to screw up the school system, there are alot easier ways of doing that. and if i wanted to screw it up, i would NOT use my account to do it from"
"hm..."
"see, on windows Xp, you disabled access to drive C:. when i am bored, i screw around... one day, while trying to load objects for lightwave into lightwave, i was forced to find a way to get into drive C:."
"yes...?"*takes notes*
"so, all i did was open lightwave, go file....open....browse... and in the address bar, type "C:". all that did was throw me to "my documents", i found this kind of funny since it should show "drive C: inaccessible" so i hit the "up one level" button and it took me back one level, i hit it a couple more times and Ooo... drive c: bingo! i opened lightwave and objects and i was able to load an object."
"yes? and how does this make you able to open command prompt?"
"same way i opened that i can open command.com... see? go windows/system32/command.com [opens it on hit computer]"
"i see... and how do you do this 'net send'thing?"
"*sigh* [type 'net send maloym test'] see? message arrives saying test"
"i see...."
*scribbles notes*
[i notice security morons leaning to see it too]
****bell rings****
"saved by the bell... can i go catch my bus? you can call me in tomorrow"
"ok, i will call you in around 3rd period"
"ok {[mutter] sheesh...}"
heart pounding, i pick up my backpack and head out the door... i walk by the front desk and notice the secretary staring at me with a dissaproving glance....
-----------to be continued tomorrow after the next debate--------------------
wish me luck, i cant get suspended, im a senior and i need to finish this year...
problem is that we arent supposed to be able to get into drive C: to access the command.com file right? wrong. easy enough to access it using any application out there. MORONS
ok, so i net send a message to my friend... that was yesterday...
today, 6th period, 2 security personelle come in to escort me to the friggin principals office. HA! i need no escort... i walk calmly to the office and sit down to wait.
chat a little with the security morons and find out that this is about MSDOS and me. quickly, i formulate a plan in my mind: bullshit em so much that they wont even know it.
so, finally, the principal calls me in and asks me to sit down, the two security morons on either side of me.
"so, do you know what this is about?"
"well kind of, steve [security moron #1] hinted that its about msdos stuff"
"yes, you see, we have disabled command prompt from these school computers for a reason, so that kids [pauses] cant harm the school's system and somehow, you managed to get into it and did something there..."
"yes?"
"and we feel that this may pose a threat to our system"
"*chuckle*"
"whats so funny?"
"well, you see, two things;
1. command prompt isnt disabled, its hidden in drive C: to which the system doesnt allow access.
2. MSDOS cant do much against xp. all i did was test sending a message to a friend using net send, it worked so i was like sweet!"
"yes and we feel that this can be a threat to us."
"sir, if i wanted to screw up the school system, there are alot easier ways of doing that. and if i wanted to screw it up, i would NOT use my account to do it from"
"hm..."
"see, on windows Xp, you disabled access to drive C:. when i am bored, i screw around... one day, while trying to load objects for lightwave into lightwave, i was forced to find a way to get into drive C:."
"yes...?"*takes notes*
"so, all i did was open lightwave, go file....open....browse... and in the address bar, type "C:". all that did was throw me to "my documents", i found this kind of funny since it should show "drive C: inaccessible" so i hit the "up one level" button and it took me back one level, i hit it a couple more times and Ooo... drive c: bingo! i opened lightwave and objects and i was able to load an object."
"yes? and how does this make you able to open command prompt?"
"same way i opened that i can open command.com... see? go windows/system32/command.com [opens it on hit computer]"
"i see... and how do you do this 'net send'thing?"
"*sigh* [type 'net send maloym test'] see? message arrives saying test"
"i see...."
*scribbles notes*
[i notice security morons leaning to see it too]
****bell rings****
"saved by the bell... can i go catch my bus? you can call me in tomorrow"
"ok, i will call you in around 3rd period"
"ok {[mutter] sheesh...}"
heart pounding, i pick up my backpack and head out the door... i walk by the front desk and notice the secretary staring at me with a dissaproving glance....
-----------to be continued tomorrow after the next debate--------------------
wish me luck, i cant get suspended, im a senior and i need to finish this year...
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47songs
Reply #2 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:29 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:29 PM
As moronic as they may seem, they do have a job to do. Security risks are everywhere, including schools.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #3 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:33 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:33 PM
..and because you are able to do something, doesn't mean you should.
MadPyro
Reply #4 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:36 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:36 PM
i didnt do anything .... harmful... but if i find out who reported me (a student) i will...
qrush
Reply #5 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:29 PM
Reply #5 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:29 PM
A word of advice....don't push it. I wouldn't try to even take a chance with your luck here. It's best to try to be defensive especially since you have a lot more to lose than gain from arguing about it.
MadPyro
Reply #7 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:44 PM
Reply #7 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:44 PM
unless u talking about math... i guess u guys are right... i mean its not like i did any thing wrong, they just freaked out when they found out msdos was accessible
Action_Jay
Reply #8 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:08 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:08 PM
Offer your admin skills. Show them how to secure things properly. To my recollection, there is a user right for the command prompt that can be disabled in xp through group policy.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #9 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:30 PM
Reply #9 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:30 PM
eh im a senior now in HS, i pulled that exact stunt as a freshmen. They pretty much just threw me out of the manditory keyboarding cklass and had me troubleshooting the school network the rest of the semster. And trust me that was punishment enough.
They are right dont push your luck, you may get stuck debugging teachers email's for the rest of the year.
They are right dont push your luck, you may get stuck debugging teachers email's for the rest of the year.
MadPyro
Reply #11 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:56 PM 
there is... they dont know about it... maybe i tell em?
Reply #11 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:56 PM
there is... they dont know about it... maybe i tell em?
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #13 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:15 PM
Reply #13 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:15 PM
yes im really a 65 year old guy who goes to Old Country Buffet everyday at the crack of dawn 
Matrix-D
Reply #14 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:34 PM
Reply #14 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:34 PM
i put a startup lock on one of are school computers using the "suppsed to be" locked bios. I went to the office they called in my parents etc but he never even thought about suspending me.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #15 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:39 PM
Reply #15 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:39 PM
I got suspended for ....
...not the place or time.
...not the place or time.
Sugaree
Reply #16 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:46 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:46 PM
I never got in trouble at school....back then a "PC" was "PE"
Now, I get into trouble all the time
Now, I get into trouble all the time
MadPyro
Reply #17 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:51 AM
Reply #17 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:51 AM
lol @ all
thanks guys.. at least the bad feeling in my gut went away... still got another debate tomorrow so tell ya all about that then
thanks guys.. at least the bad feeling in my gut went away... still got another debate tomorrow so tell ya all about that then
Hydro311
Reply #18 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:48 AM
Reply #18 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:48 AM
OK, you guys wanna acces the C: drive when it is locked by the Admins. If you try to open C:, it says it is locked by Admin or something, so this is what you do:
1. open my pictures,
2.open sample pictures, and looka t the address bar, it has the entire path to the C: drive.
3. then push the arrow button (not the "back" arrow button, but it should be the 3rd to the front.
4. keep pressing until you're in the C: drive. YAY! we fooled Microsoft!
now since your here, you can acces everyones account, do anything you want, and can change the Windows "system32" stuff... have fun.
*sorry about the spelling, i AM a freshman.
1. open my pictures,
2.open sample pictures, and looka t the address bar, it has the entire path to the C: drive.
3. then push the arrow button (not the "back" arrow button, but it should be the 3rd to the front.
4. keep pressing until you're in the C: drive. YAY! we fooled Microsoft!
now since your here, you can acces everyones account, do anything you want, and can change the Windows "system32" stuff... have fun.
*sorry about the spelling, i AM a freshman.
MadPyro
Reply #19 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:19 PM
Reply #19 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:19 PM
yup thats kind of what i did. except that i used internet explorer to do it through "open" i am not going to screw around... gonna lay low for a while.
i am not going to screw around... gonna lay low for a while.
Xira
Reply #20 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:51 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:51 PM
In my opinion you shouldn't be in trouble because the school uses insecure 'protection' software. However, you being a student in America, prisoners have more rights than you.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:08 PM
school admins and i get in fight over MSDOS... help me