Should Such Daily Shots Be Allowed?
Thursday, September 9, 2004 by BX | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=5919
and tell me whether such content is allowed on WC?
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Reply #42 Thursday, September 9, 2004 5:56 PM
| *contemplates submitting hot guy in thong wall and testing that "sense of humo |
dont bother me .. im secure in my manhood.. women like good lookin guys .. guys like good looking women ...no big deal.
Reply #43 Thursday, September 9, 2004 6:07 PM
| contemplates submitting hot guy in thong wall and testing that "sense of humor |
Chas prepares to insert finger in mouth to induce vomiting..(what happened to my vomiting smiley.) Darn it. >
Reply #44 Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:36 PM
I'm with paxx on this one. I have an issue with 'anime' depiction of women as the clear intent is to make them 'cute and young'....where the issue is with the depiction of 'young'.
The idea is to show pre-pubescent girls with 'post pubescent' developed body-form, ie, breasts.
This is often 'excused' as a stylistic 'foreign' artform and besides...it's a cartoon.
Fritz The Cat was a cartoon, too.
Several 'anime' images have not made it to public display here as they crossed the line of 'sexual depiction of a minor'.
This one gets though but don't expect that all anime will....
Reply #46 Thursday, September 9, 2004 8:48 PM
Oh wait!...did I see a hidden message in there somewhere!? And what is she doing with that mouse?!?! Someone call Tipper Gore!! Call Pat Robertson!! Oh my god!!...Impure thoughts impure thoughts!!! I should be flogged!!!
Reply #47 Thursday, September 9, 2004 9:19 PM
I was wanting to say something about the *It's just a cartoon* statement. This is just a general thought.
As far as I know, any behavior that is considered to be of the porn or soft porn variety in real life is likewise considered to be so when depicted artistically in sketches, cartoon or otherwise. Real model or not.
From memory, this came about because it was recognized that pedophiles would lure their victims with gifts, including cartoonized soft porn. They then would apply peer pressure by proxy (of sorts) by convincing the kids that since their parents let them have cartoon then their parents would not care if they had these special cartoons and since the cartoons were posing or acting certain ways then the kids shouldn't feel funny doing the same thing. It was all ok because it was the cartoons and cartoons were something that the kids were allowed.
I think that this is something to be aware of when evaluating cartoon art. While most of it is OK, some of it has been put to some dirty use.
I am certainly not saying that this particular piece is wrong. I am just suggesting that there is a lot more to this issue in general than one might think, and if some people have qualms about it it they may have reasons that aren't immediatly clear.
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Reply #48 Thursday, September 9, 2004 9:26 PM
Yeah. I'm late...but I'm here
Reply #49 Thursday, September 9, 2004 9:40 PM
...And although my 'views' have changed (shifted slightly more to the 'center') since that 'episode of yore', Im with GM on this one...
Not offended personally, but Im sure there 'could' be some who 'might' be...
| Oh wait!...did I see a hidden message in there somewhere!? And what is she doing with that mouse?!?! Someone call Tipper Gore!! Call Pat Robertson!! Oh my god!!...Impure thoughts impure thoughts!!! I should be flogged!!! |
Helping or hindering, WG?
Reply #50 Thursday, September 9, 2004 9:49 PM
That pic reminds me of that for some reason...Personally as an adult I am not bothered by this pic on this site, Frogboy has said the site is PG13 or whatever. I would have issue though with my children seeing it used as a background, as a previous poster stated that he had with his children... It's not that the picture itself is incredibly bad, but anything like this being displayed on my computer where my children or anyone elses could see it gives it some sort of credibility and validity beyond just a cartoon.
I think that often we don't think of the peripheral impact of things we do or take for granted. Children in decision forming years (and by that I mean teenagers as well) are impacted hugely but also subconsciously by the things around them. Often that means that I choose not to act, talk, think, do things a certain way, not because I think it has a bad inpact on me neccesarily, but also has an impact on those around me who maybe are a little more vulnerable to my own perceptions of the world.
All this of course is beside the point because my kids may not ever even want to view this site, and most of the people here are adult enough that they probably wouldn't have given the picture a look without this forum post or an interest in the art behind the wall itself.
Reply #51 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:06 PM
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Reply #53 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:12 PM
It's important to note that Wincustomize.com requires email information from an individual wishing to be a member. This prohibits those under 13 from legally joining without parental consent.
Frogboy's reference to 'PG13' is exactly that, and it's the responsibility of the site's Admins to set the 'bar' of suitability to closely reflect the general community's [here] view of what is deemed appropriate.
As with any graphic/skinning/art site there 'may' be nudity, etc but that is to be seen within context.....is it gratuitous or pivotal to the work?
Nudity is rarely an issue.....the 'issue' arises through its 'gratuity'....as is prevalent in screenshot rejections...
Reply #54 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:19 PM
There is nothing wrong with any of those screenshots. I've seen worst on billboard adds, and the street isn't even PG13. I actually like the cartons on the second link in #51 much more to my linking. At least these are adult women, not a Playboy Playmate body on a disformed 10 year old face.
But regarding cartoon in general, because something is cartoon does not make it acceptable. I've seen cartoons of women raped quite graphically. It's not about whether it's live model or a drawing that one must consider, it's what message is sent forth with the artwork. I got nothing against sexy, but I do have a lot against rape, murder and pedophilia. These subjects can and ARE often used in cartoons (especially anime cartoons), and I find them disgusting.
Reply #55 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:21 PM
Reply #56 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:27 PM
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Reply #58 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:29 PM
(last thing I read was China)
Reply #59 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:34 PM
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Reply #60 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:46 PM
I'll show my fonts if you show yours....That'll give the boys something to complain about
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Reply #41 Thursday, September 9, 2004 5:44 PM
Just harmless fun ladies. Please take it that way.
*contemplates submitting hot guy in thong wall and testing that "sense of humor"*
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