Do We Have Any Snake Experts?
Saturday, March 27, 2004 by MGiff | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Can someone PLEASE identify this? I can't find it anywhere.
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DavidK
Reply #2 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:01 PM
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Reply #2 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:01 PM
it's a Snake...
or, an ex-snake to be more precise...
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DavidK
Reply #4 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:04 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:04 PM
it looks like one of those harmless garden snakes... A garter snake most likely, a gopher snake would have a bigger nose.
MGiff
Reply #5 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:05 PM
Reply #5 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:05 PM
DavidK I figured that by the way it wiggled..... 
Actually I need to know because there are more than one and this is the one my cat brought me. IN THE HOUSE. Now I am holding the cats hostage inside the house and they are driving me crazy but I can't let them back out until I know.
This was prior to your 2nd reply! I'm looking up garden snake now.
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Actually I need to know because there are more than one and this is the one my cat brought me. IN THE HOUSE. Now I am holding the cats hostage inside the house and they are driving me crazy but I can't let them back out until I know.
This was prior to your 2nd reply! I'm looking up garden snake now.
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kongit
Reply #7 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:27 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:27 PM
garter snakes have stripes lengthwise I think. It might be a copperhead.
MGiff
Reply #11 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:51 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:51 PM
Essencay you are the man!!! Thank you so much!! I bow to you and my cats do too, you saved our sanity.
Essencay
Reply #12 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:55 PM
Reply #12 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:55 PM
I'm not an expert...that's just the closest picture I could find on the web.
DesignCaddy
Reply #13 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:02 PM
Reply #13 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:02 PM
where do you live mgiff? we agree its a 'northern watersnake' (my mother pulled out a garden book)
DesignCaddy
Reply #14 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:02 PM
Reply #14 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:02 PM
oh- WAIT!
it could also be a 'Southern watersnake' .
it could also be a 'Southern watersnake' .
MGiff
Reply #15 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:04 PM
Reply #15 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:04 PM
From the pictures I saw, it looks like the Northern and the Plainbelly juvenile. I live in Northern Mississippi so I figured the Northern was out but I found an Arkansas website that had the Plainbelly juvy and this was it! The adult doesn't look like it but the juvy is exact. Thank you so much Essencay and DesignCaddy and everyone else, I was going crazy over this. By the way, your mother probably had the best idea. It was in the garden which I had just disturbed by raking and pulling weeds.
(Now looking up Southern Watersnake)
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(Now looking up Southern Watersnake)
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MGiff
Reply #16 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:10 PM
Reply #16 Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:10 PM
"Warning All water snakes in the genus Nerodia will bite if harassed. Their bite is not venomous. The Southern is commonly mistaken for the venomous Cottonmouth. It defends itself vigorously when disturbed."
It is DEFINITELY a watersnake, of that I have no doubt. I think they are all pretty close in appearance. I read in one place where the plainbelly is also mistaken for the copperhead and actually flattens it's head to try and look like one when it's defending. I feel SO much better now.
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It is DEFINITELY a watersnake, of that I have no doubt. I think they are all pretty close in appearance. I read in one place where the plainbelly is also mistaken for the copperhead and actually flattens it's head to try and look like one when it's defending. I feel SO much better now.
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kongit
Reply #18 Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:10 PM
Reply #18 Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:10 PM
I was just thinking that if your cats knew it was safe to play with them then most likely they had been in your yard for a while and wouldn't hurt them. you just never noticed.
IPlural
Reply #19 Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:25 PM good for the kittys!!!
but ummm, I dunno if they want to play with snakes in general, specially in Miss
Reply #19 Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:25 PM
good for the kittys!!!but ummm, I dunno if they want to play with snakes in general, specially in Miss
MGiff
Reply #20 Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:54 AM
Reply #20 Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:54 AM
That's right! We've got some bad ones! Good kitty....
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Reply #1 Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:01 PM