Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid..
Monday, March 15, 2004 by werewolf | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
This may be old news, but first I've heard of it.
On Friday, the FBI made public a far-reaching proposal that would require all broadband Internet providers to rewire their networks (at their own expense) to support easy wiretapping by police. If approved as drafted, the proposal could dramatically expand the scope of the agency's wiretap powers and raise costs for cable broadband companies. The 85-page filing includes language asserting that new services lacking a back door for law enforcement would be outlawed. The proposal is sure to be the subject of polarized debate, especially in this election year.
http://ct.com.com/click?q=bd-c0dUQ7pstLq7ntNZTohO0QGGg9RR
I know the link has a .com.com on it, but it really does go to ZDNET. It's not a spoof.
On Friday, the FBI made public a far-reaching proposal that would require all broadband Internet providers to rewire their networks (at their own expense) to support easy wiretapping by police. If approved as drafted, the proposal could dramatically expand the scope of the agency's wiretap powers and raise costs for cable broadband companies. The 85-page filing includes language asserting that new services lacking a back door for law enforcement would be outlawed. The proposal is sure to be the subject of polarized debate, especially in this election year.
http://ct.com.com/click?q=bd-c0dUQ7pstLq7ntNZTohO0QGGg9RR
I know the link has a .com.com on it, but it really does go to ZDNET. It's not a spoof.
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Sput
Reply #42 Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:21 PM
Reply #42 Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:21 PM
...don't get me started on global warming (and particularly Bush's cavalier attitude with his oil barron buddies)...I got hooked for about a year contibuting to the BBC science forums, arguing issues with some people on global warming who try who insist that it isn't real (turns out the "research" they rely on for this argument is all sponsored ultimately by the oil companies when you look into the financing of the research institutes and the individuals writing the papers).
....and while we're at it, don't get me started on homeopathy, ghosts, UFO's, miracles, intelligent design, sand "growinging into pebbles", dinosaurs being fossils because they used to eat limestone when it was soft, or Islamic lizards on Venus....all subjects I got hopelessly drawn into discussing there with various degrees of - .....I was going to say "deluded crackpots", but then there might be some people here who beleive in some of this pseudo-scientific babble so I'll just shut up...
....and while we're at it, don't get me started on homeopathy, ghosts, UFO's, miracles, intelligent design, sand "growinging into pebbles", dinosaurs being fossils because they used to eat limestone when it was soft, or Islamic lizards on Venus....all subjects I got hopelessly drawn into discussing there with various degrees of - .....I was going to say "deluded crackpots", but then there might be some people here who beleive in some of this pseudo-scientific babble so I'll just shut up...
Essencay
Reply #43 Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:27 PM
Okay then, if they aren't grown, I gotta quarrel with whoever keeps dumping rocks in my yard, because I never fail to chum one or two when mowing the lawn
Reply #43 Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:27 PM
| sand "growinging into pebbles" |
Okay then, if they aren't grown, I gotta quarrel with whoever keeps dumping rocks in my yard, because I never fail to chum one or two when mowing the lawn
MGiff
Reply #44 Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:56 PM
Reply #44 Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:56 PM
I saw on the news yesterday that we will have, in the eastern United States, an invasion of locusts. It's already started in Australia. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/australia_locust_plague
Now what does that sound like?
Now what does that sound like?
Jafo
Reply #45 Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:02 PM
Reply #45 Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:02 PM
It sounds like a seasonal thing...caused by agriculture...just like mice plagues...
MGiff
Reply #46 Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:14 PM
Reply #46 Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:14 PM
Does it always do that in Australia? I know they're here in the spring, just not that bad.
Sput
Reply #47 Friday, March 19, 2004 7:15 AM
Sounds like a natural cycle in locus population, probably exacerbated by the prior draught - the same as often unfortunately happens in Africa. The locus population ticks over in lean times, and explodes quickly when crops are available. Why, what does it sound like to you? A biblical plague caused by the wrath of God?
Reply #47 Friday, March 19, 2004 7:15 AM
| Now what does that sound like? |
Sounds like a natural cycle in locus population, probably exacerbated by the prior draught - the same as often unfortunately happens in Africa. The locus population ticks over in lean times, and explodes quickly when crops are available. Why, what does it sound like to you? A biblical plague caused by the wrath of God?
Island Dog
Reply #48 Friday, March 19, 2004 8:26 AM
What does Bush have to do with global warming? Did we just start using oil when Bush was elected? I forgot that when clinton was elected we all switched from oil to solar power. All the wacko leftists and enviro-terrorists do is complain about oil except offer no alternatives except "conservation".
Reply #48 Friday, March 19, 2004 8:26 AM
| don't get me started on global warming (and particularly Bush's cavalier attitude with his oil barron buddies) |
What does Bush have to do with global warming? Did we just start using oil when Bush was elected? I forgot that when clinton was elected we all switched from oil to solar power. All the wacko leftists and enviro-terrorists do is complain about oil except offer no alternatives except "conservation".
IPlural
Reply #49 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:12 AM
No he just refused to allow the datum from research reports to be used in the over all report he slapped his initials upon...
Why? Because he didn't like the results and neither did the Energy Companies, of which his father, himself and his vice have been deeply embedded within for years long before he was president or having to come up with a name was even an issue for his parents.
He pulled out of the same exact agreement which the USA was the leader or creating which would limit global impact. He has an Environmental record that is bleak if anything to put it nicely.
anyway....
Reply #49 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:12 AM
| What does Bush have to do with global warming? Did we just start using oil when Bush was elected? |
No he just refused to allow the datum from research reports to be used in the over all report he slapped his initials upon...
Why? Because he didn't like the results and neither did the Energy Companies, of which his father, himself and his vice have been deeply embedded within for years long before he was president or having to come up with a name was even an issue for his parents.
He pulled out of the same exact agreement which the USA was the leader or creating which would limit global impact. He has an Environmental record that is bleak if anything to put it nicely.
anyway....
IPlural
Reply #50 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:20 AM
Wacko leftist?
Complain?
Offer no alternatives other than conservation?
That is so moronic a statement it is sad and not even laughable...
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Enviro-Terrorists?
Yeah there are definitely some sick pukes out there spiking trees and such. Just like there are Religious-Terrorists blowing up clinics and shooting people dead in the name of God.
If your going to go off, don't go off half cocked, and you'd best look around before throwing stones because someone might have not opened any of the Glass Houses windows before hand...
Reply #50 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:20 AM
| All the wacko leftists and enviro-terrorists do is complain about oil except offer no alternatives except "conservation". |
Wacko leftist?
Complain?
Offer no alternatives other than conservation?
That is so moronic a statement it is sad and not even laughable...
...........
Enviro-Terrorists?
Yeah there are definitely some sick pukes out there spiking trees and such. Just like there are Religious-Terrorists blowing up clinics and shooting people dead in the name of God.
If your going to go off, don't go off half cocked, and you'd best look around before throwing stones because someone might have not opened any of the Glass Houses windows before hand...
Island Dog
Reply #51 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:34 AM
Reply #51 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:34 AM
What I said is exactly true. We have been dependent on oil for how many years? It's only the wacko leftists that constantly blame Bush for everything because they have no real solution. We had 8 terrible years of an appeaser for a President that bought the same oil from the same people we always have. What did they democrats do....nothing as usual except complain.
Enviro-terrorists are embraced by the left as they embrace most extremists and dictators. They have no problem setting SUV's on fire, because only the "evil rich" can afford them.
Let me correct myself though. They offer no "reasonable" alternatives besides conservation. Conservation is useless and will never solve anything.
Enviro-terrorists are embraced by the left as they embrace most extremists and dictators. They have no problem setting SUV's on fire, because only the "evil rich" can afford them.
Let me correct myself though. They offer no "reasonable" alternatives besides conservation. Conservation is useless and will never solve anything.
Island Dog
Reply #52 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:40 AM
The question was, "what does Bush have to do with global warming?" If global warming does isn't, which most likely it doesn't, Bush has nothing to do with it. Don't start with the "his oil buddies" tin hat theory.
Reply #52 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:40 AM
| He pulled out of the same exact agreement which the USA was the leader or creating which would limit global impact. He has an Environmental record that is bleak if anything to put it nicely. |
The question was, "what does Bush have to do with global warming?" If global warming does isn't, which most likely it doesn't, Bush has nothing to do with it. Don't start with the "his oil buddies" tin hat theory.
Island Dog
Reply #53 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:44 AM
Reply #53 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:44 AM
Yes I made some typo's. I can't fix it for reason.
Jafo
Reply #54 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:45 AM
Reply #54 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:45 AM
| Conservation is useless and will never solve anything. |
Oh dear Lord.......thou should not engage in a battle of wits with the unarmed....
Island Dog
Reply #55 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:47 AM
Reply #55 Friday, March 19, 2004 9:47 AM
Conservation is useless because people will not participate is conservation the way it's intended. If everyone in America recycled and conservated that would be great, and it would work. Reality sets in.....people are not going to conserve. Do you really believe that enough people would do it to make it work?
Jafo
Reply #56 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:00 AM
Reply #56 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:00 AM
Half-arsed attempts at conservation naturally won't work.....however the assertion was that conservation would not work....which is just plain wrong.
Island Dog
Reply #57 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:04 AM
Reply #57 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:04 AM
You are right Jafo. I didn't mean to imply that conservation itself would not work. I meant it would not work because people just wouldn't do it.
Jafo
Reply #58 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:10 AM
Reply #58 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:10 AM
island dog.....currently Australia is suffering water restrictions.....and people MUST 'conserve' or perish.....we are the driest continent on the planet.....and water reserves have never been lower.
Sometimes you will find that you HAVE TO rely on real conservation.
Island Dog
Reply #59 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:19 AM
Reply #59 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:19 AM
Actually conservation is always on my mind. I live in a rural area of Florida, where we all rely on wells. Several years ago they announced that the aquifer is running low and that we must start conserving and looking for new sources of water. Has anyone conserved...no. Has anyone looked for new sources of water....well we do live around a lot of salt water, but nobody has proposed the idea of that.
I see first hand that people in general just do not want to conservate, even though it's very important they do. That was my whole point.
I see first hand that people in general just do not want to conservate, even though it's very important they do. That was my whole point.
IPlural
Reply #60 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:55 AM
Reply #60 Friday, March 19, 2004 10:55 AM
island dog, I can understand where you are coming from, seriously. But it is just as an extream position on the oppsite side of the issue though.
http://www.sierraclub.org/globalwarming/energypolicy2003.asp
http://www.sierraclub.org/globalwarming/energypolicy2003.asp
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Reply #41 Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:57 PM