Ratings in general and Screenshots ratings particurarly
Sunday, March 14, 2004 by neophil78 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Since a while someone is playing with ratings, and give systematicly bad ratings to skins (screenshots) that are fine / very fine so they are to 4 or 5 instead of 8 or 9 which should be the right rating ... Just a few examples :
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4348 (rating 4 at this time
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https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4343
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4347
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4325
It's begining to become a bit tiresome even if it's not dramatical ...
Could any admin take a look at who's going on this way ??
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4348 (rating 4 at this time
)https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4343
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4347
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4325
It's begining to become a bit tiresome even if it's not dramatical ...
Could any admin take a look at who's going on this way ??
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moshi
Reply #2 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:32 PM
Reply #2 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:32 PM
personally i don´t see why any of these screenshots should be rated 8 or 9.
usually i only rate when i see such threads appearing. so i had a look at your´s. i rated it 5. there´s nothing spectular in it. a skin by somebody else. a boring wallaper. matching icons. a Rainlendar and Winamp skin by you. the Winamp skin isn´t great at all and has many jaggies and other distracting elements (the sliders in particular). the Rainlendar skin is quite ok.
overall pretty average (i´ve seen worse, but just as many better). that´s why i gave it a five.
not sure if that was what you were hoping when you was starting the thread. but i´m sure a few people will give your screenshot a high rating, not because it´s really great, but in order to "balance" what you consider to low.
usually i only rate when i see such threads appearing. so i had a look at your´s. i rated it 5. there´s nothing spectular in it. a skin by somebody else. a boring wallaper. matching icons. a Rainlendar and Winamp skin by you. the Winamp skin isn´t great at all and has many jaggies and other distracting elements (the sliders in particular). the Rainlendar skin is quite ok.
overall pretty average (i´ve seen worse, but just as many better). that´s why i gave it a five.
not sure if that was what you were hoping when you was starting the thread. but i´m sure a few people will give your screenshot a high rating, not because it´s really great, but in order to "balance" what you consider to low.
Jafo
Reply #3 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:34 PM
Reply #3 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:34 PM
In every case there....there are only 2 or 3 ratings at best.....and stats will reveal that the more ratings a work receives the more legitimately 'correct' the average will be...
Easy fixed....rate them...
moshi
Reply #4 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:35 PM
did you have a look at how many views those had. it´s very likely the 4s and 5s are the admin ratings
Reply #4 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:35 PM
| Could any admin take a look at who's going on this way ?? |
did you have a look at how many views those had. it´s very likely the 4s and 5s are the admin ratings
Jafo
Reply #5 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:39 PM
Reply #5 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:39 PM
Yes...I looked...[obviously]...and no there is no evil-doer undermining the screenshot-rating department...
neophil78
Reply #6 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:43 PM
Reply #6 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:43 PM
moshi, when i began this thread, my "last" screenshot (Pixel8) was'nt yet uploaded (well it was "waiting for aproval 
).
Anyway i'm not stuck to 4/5 against 8/9, what i mean is that some are first rating 8 (for example) by an admin, and then, without any comment left by anyone on it, the rating goes to 5 with just one more rating ==> that means someone gave a 2 !!!
That's this way of practising i'm pointing on ...
).Anyway i'm not stuck to 4/5 against 8/9, what i mean is that some are first rating 8 (for example) by an admin, and then, without any comment left by anyone on it, the rating goes to 5 with just one more rating ==> that means someone gave a 2 !!!
That's this way of practising i'm pointing on ...
Jafo
Reply #7 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:52 PM
Reply #7 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:52 PM
neophil78......the second rating was a '4', not a '2'.....and alarm bells only ring when you see a work with a dozen 9's and 10's and one quaintly 'odd' '1'....then you take notice...and keep an eye on similar 'trends'.
In the caese shown here....it's a simple example of one person who 'likes them a bit' and another who 'likes them a bit less'.....definitely NOT vindictive or 'evil'...
neophil78
Reply #9 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:54 PM
Reply #9 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:54 PM
Euh i just got a look at your screenshot moshi: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?authorid=3907 , so i'm just 
and i'm not really sure about your feelings of quality
and i'm not really sure about your feelings of quality
moshi
Reply #10 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:55 PM
Reply #10 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:55 PM
i was rating the one you gave the link for (neocyber) or something like that. it has three ratings. one was my five. if you demand to remove the "2" (IF there is any) why not demanding to remove the "8" (IF there is any) as well as it would be far to high.
there are other ways to get self-esteem than screenshot ratings, believe me. looking at your profile it seems that you upload a screenshot every few days. sometimes even two a day. that´s a pretty odd hobby in my eyes
there are other ways to get self-esteem than screenshot ratings, believe me. looking at your profile it seems that you upload a screenshot every few days. sometimes even two a day. that´s a pretty odd hobby in my eyes
neophil78
Reply #11 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:57 PM
As everyone knows, 8+4 / 2 = 5
(N.B: the numbers given where just an example, not in real and on a special skin ...)
[Message Edited]
Reply #11 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:57 PM
| neophil78......the second rating was a '4', not a '2' |
As everyone knows, 8+4 / 2 = 5
(N.B: the numbers given where just an example, not in real and on a special skin ...)
[Message Edited]
MadDeez
Reply #12 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:04 PM
Reply #12 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:04 PM
does anyone actually care what their ratings are? if you do, why?
kongit
Reply #13 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:09 PM
yep. doo, doo, doo, dah, raaatttiiinggs are killlllin me!
used to care, but not anymore.
Reply #13 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:09 PM
| Same old song and dance about ratings.... (sigh) |
yep. doo, doo, doo, dah, raaatttiiinggs are killlllin me!
| does anyone actually care what their ratings are? if you do, why? |
used to care, but not anymore.
Jafo
Reply #14 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:10 PM
Reply #14 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:10 PM
moshi....there are a few who upload anything up to a dozen at a time.......I've never really understood exactly 'why' they do....but they do.
Screenshots have always been a tool for demonstrating an example of something...or a work-in-progress.....maybe how a wall works well with a skin....something like that....but to obsess about them as perhaps an 'artform' is just a little weird...
Jafo
Reply #15 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:16 PM
Reply #15 Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:16 PM
Those 4 examples....1, 2, 2, 4 are the numbers of ratings.
Not one of the ratings is less than 4.
There IS no issue with their ratings...
EventHorizon
Reply #16 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:39 PM
Yes, I, for one, care what my skins/walls/whatever are rated...
A high rating tells me I did something right and that people like what I made.
A low rating tells me people think my work was crap...
A high rating gives me more downloads because it is visible to the unregestered public, and vice-versa.
So, yes, ratings are important to me...
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Reply #16 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:39 PM
| does anyone actually care what their ratings are? if you do, why? |
Yes, I, for one, care what my skins/walls/whatever are rated...
A high rating tells me I did something right and that people like what I made.
A low rating tells me people think my work was crap...
A high rating gives me more downloads because it is visible to the unregestered public, and vice-versa.
So, yes, ratings are important to me...
[Message Edited]
kona0197
Reply #17 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:42 PM
Reply #17 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:42 PM
Well I for one do not care for the ratings. Why? because I just like the fact that WC was nice enough to let my lowly works on the site.
Appreciation and respect from fellow artists via comments are good too.
The best rating you will ever get is the famous "upload notification" email. Nothing else matters.
Appreciation and respect from fellow artists via comments are good too.
The best rating you will ever get is the famous "upload notification" email. Nothing else matters.
EventHorizon
Reply #18 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:45 PM
Reply #18 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:45 PM
Kona, you upload because you want ppl to download your work (or in your case, others work that you uploaded)...and use it...
If you get a low rating...you see that people dont like it...and dont think its worth their time to download.
Believe me Kona, its different when you actually MAKE the skin/wall yourself, rather than getting permission to 'rip' anothers work and upload it under your name
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If you get a low rating...you see that people dont like it...and dont think its worth their time to download.
Believe me Kona, its different when you actually MAKE the skin/wall yourself, rather than getting permission to 'rip' anothers work and upload it under your name
[Message Edited]
kona0197
Reply #19 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:49 PM
Reply #19 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:49 PM
I have plenty of low ratings. i have 3s and 4s. That don't mean I the skin.
And I don't upload just for download counts. It is nice to see lots of downloads, but in truth it is all in fun as skinning should be.
And I don't upload just for download counts. It is nice to see lots of downloads, but in truth it is all in fun as skinning should be.
WOM
Reply #20 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:49 PM
Reply #20 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:49 PM
EventHorizon, you are right for skins, except these are screenshots. You don't download screenshots.They are there just to look at.
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Reply #1 Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:26 PM