Ratings in general and Screenshots ratings particurarly
Sunday, March 14, 2004 by neophil78 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Since a while someone is playing with ratings, and give systematicly bad ratings to skins (screenshots) that are fine / very fine so they are to 4 or 5 instead of 8 or 9 which should be the right rating ... Just a few examples :
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4348 (rating 4 at this time
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https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4343
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4347
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4325
It's begining to become a bit tiresome even if it's not dramatical ...
Could any admin take a look at who's going on this way ??
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4348 (rating 4 at this time
)https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4343
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4347
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4325
It's begining to become a bit tiresome even if it's not dramatical ...
Could any admin take a look at who's going on this way ??
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neophil78
Reply #62 Monday, March 15, 2004 7:47 AM
So i'm asking me if it's not worth sometimes
Just take a look here : https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4348
There's only one rating (so it's the admin one ...) and it's a 4 !!! (i did'nt rate it just to show how strange the rating system is)
Do u really think this shot, which in fact is not only a simple addition of existing skins, but gives some more by addition of personal work (even by porting) and a good feeling of well matching the whole ??
Some seems to think that screenshots are just nothing else than screenshots (just a picture). I don't think so and there's over here some guys who do much more than just press "Printscreen" with the skins they have downloaded ...
As far as i'm concerned, i'm not an artist (ART creator) and a designer (and won't probably never be, just because i've not the talent and the feeling for it), but as probably most of guys in the skinning community, i like to get nice desktops, and try to tweak them the way i like best (isn't it the goal of skinning and using softwares such as Stardock's ones firstly ?). So i'm using softs and skins to go with, but just on the WindowBlinds skins, there's always something i want to change / add (colors, buttons, backgrounds ...), it's not an artistic practice but i can tell u it's sometimes a real job to get them the way i want.
Porting existing pixels to skin other softs than the one they were done for is neither an artistic practice, but it's also a real exercice. And finally puting all this stuff together requires feeling. So yes if ratings are avaible for skins (and skinner ARTISTS) i don't know why they should not be the same for screenshots (and those who did them), otherwise, why keeping up ratings for screenshots ??
Reply #62 Monday, March 15, 2004 7:47 AM
| If a Master rates a skin, it has more weight than if a Apprentice rates one. |
So i'm asking me if it's not worth sometimes
Just take a look here : https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=4348
There's only one rating (so it's the admin one ...) and it's a 4 !!! (i did'nt rate it just to show how strange the rating system is)
Do u really think this shot, which in fact is not only a simple addition of existing skins, but gives some more by addition of personal work (even by porting) and a good feeling of well matching the whole ??
Some seems to think that screenshots are just nothing else than screenshots (just a picture). I don't think so and there's over here some guys who do much more than just press "Printscreen" with the skins they have downloaded ...
As far as i'm concerned, i'm not an artist (ART creator) and a designer (and won't probably never be, just because i've not the talent and the feeling for it), but as probably most of guys in the skinning community, i like to get nice desktops, and try to tweak them the way i like best (isn't it the goal of skinning and using softwares such as Stardock's ones firstly ?). So i'm using softs and skins to go with, but just on the WindowBlinds skins, there's always something i want to change / add (colors, buttons, backgrounds ...), it's not an artistic practice but i can tell u it's sometimes a real job to get them the way i want.
Porting existing pixels to skin other softs than the one they were done for is neither an artistic practice, but it's also a real exercice. And finally puting all this stuff together requires feeling. So yes if ratings are avaible for skins (and skinner ARTISTS) i don't know why they should not be the same for screenshots (and those who did them), otherwise, why keeping up ratings for screenshots ??
Jafo
Reply #63 Monday, March 15, 2004 7:56 AM
Reply #63 Monday, March 15, 2004 7:56 AM
neophil78.....no...it is not an admin's rating at all, but an individual's.
That was uploaded by a Journeyman and therefore was auto rated a '6'....which is bypassed by a 'genuine' rating.
An admin has not even seen that image till now....
c242
Reply #64 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:02 AM
Reply #64 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:02 AM
neophil78 : that particular piece is like hundreds of others of the same author and nothing special (anymore) for me personally. What we see is another piece of a flood af screenshots and ports in the same manner totally overdone by this particular author. (You asked for it.)
neophil78
Reply #66 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:17 AM
I thought all entries have to be approved by an admin before being displayed in the category (and that in the same time it was the admin who give the first rating ...)
Reply #66 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:17 AM
| neophil78.....no...it is not an admin's rating at all, but an individual's |
I thought all entries have to be approved by an admin before being displayed in the category (and that in the same time it was the admin who give the first rating ...)
Jafo
Reply #67 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:20 AM
Reply #67 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:20 AM
No...some members have direct posting privileges....comes with promotion/s...
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #68 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:21 AM
Reply #68 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:21 AM
Journeyman and above do not have their work moderated 
neophil78
Reply #70 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:21 AM
Reply #70 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:21 AM
c242, there's also wallpapers (just to talk about them) creators who upload the same style of stuff ... (don't get particular name under the hand ...), or sysmetrix, or any kind of softs skins ...
c242
Reply #71 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:24 AM
Reply #71 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:24 AM
I know and I have said my opinion about that elsewhere. But this thread is about screenshots. 
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neophil78
Reply #74 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:26 AM
In my mind, not only ...
Reply #74 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:26 AM
| But this thread is about screenshots. |
In my mind, not only ...
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #75 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:27 AM
Reply #75 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:27 AM
Click on someone's name - it will show you their details, with their title at the top.
neophil78
Reply #76 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:30 AM
AAaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, so i'm just a villager
Reply #76 Monday, March 15, 2004 8:30 AM
| https://www.wincustomize.com/index.asp?Cmd=about |
AAaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, so i'm just a villager
HG_Eliminator
Reply #77 Monday, March 15, 2004 11:51 AM
Reply #77 Monday, March 15, 2004 11:51 AM
thank you neophil78 for your concern. to me screens are more that just something to look at in boredom. the specific screen of mine neo linked to was a port i had made of Thunder Storm (by pixStudio) for LiteStep. it took quite a while to modify the images and set up the scripts (5 different pages of scripts) not always is porting just a "5 min task" .
i use the screen shots section to get opinions on my various mods / ports/ skins. so i can get the communitys opinions on what i am working on. like i have said before, many desktops are not just "default stuff in different configurations" im not sure abt the others but i know i use the screens section as a sounding board to showcase things im working on .. so yes feed back is important to me ..
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i use the screen shots section to get opinions on my various mods / ports/ skins. so i can get the communitys opinions on what i am working on. like i have said before, many desktops are not just "default stuff in different configurations" im not sure abt the others but i know i use the screens section as a sounding board to showcase things im working on .. so yes feed back is important to me ..
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WOM
Reply #78 Monday, March 15, 2004 3:18 PM
Reply #78 Monday, March 15, 2004 3:18 PM
chasUGC, weighted ratings to my knowledge hasn't gone into effect yet.
Apocalypse_67
Reply #79 Monday, March 15, 2004 5:47 PM
Reply #79 Monday, March 15, 2004 5:47 PM
I have always looked at Screenshots as 'mannequins' that people use to show what they have put together to customize their desktop. It gives people an idea of what skins to combine and how they look in combination with other skins (not of the same suite)
Why they have been given a rating button is beyond me.
As Jafo said, maybe it will be better if only admins would rate them, or just remove the rating feature from it.
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Why they have been given a rating button is beyond me.
As Jafo said, maybe it will be better if only admins would rate them, or just remove the rating feature from it.
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Reply #61 Monday, March 15, 2004 7:38 AM