Vanity, skins, etc.

Wednesday, March 3, 2004 by hellish911 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I'm looking at all of these Object Desktop themes and all I see are a bunch of beveled, rounded, big sloppy edges. This is definitely not eye-candy. I'm not much for making these themes or I'd do it myself, but I'd like to see something with flat, plain, smooth edges streamline and futuristic without the mess and garbage. Simplistic. You know what I mean? For example, everyone is raving over this "Killer Suite" but I took one look at the dock that was made and saw this ugly bubbled out mess of a creation. I want transparency, smooth, streamline and FLAT plains with hover effects and shadows. If someone could do this, I'm positive they'd get much more of a positive reaction out of these people than what these guys throwing out these bubbled garbage heaps are getting. Someone hook me up so I can have a good desktop. After all.. I paid money for OD.
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hellish911
Reply #21 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:24 PM
sig101, I totally agree. I was looking at some of essorant's work with WB and his Simplex style caught my eye. I know it's something that's been done before, but that's the closest I've seen to what I think people with real taste are looking for. I'm trying to find some good simplistic/futuristic styles for msstyles. If you guys could give me some resources on where to start with this, maybe I could come up with something innovative to what we've seen. Right now I'm trying to find the .msstyles port of the Simplex theme that I saw from essorant because I'd like to skin my desktop with that for the time being. I've found one from ChaNinja but it's not the same thing. If someone could hook me up with this, I'd definitely appreciate it.

Essencay
Reply #22 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:25 PM
And to sig101's point....this http://www.guiolympics.com/ the GUIOlympics would be a great place to introduce a new style to the masses and a chance to get some swag

Tiggz
Reply #23 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:28 PM

Essencay
Reply #24 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:28 PM
Also...with SkinStudio you can port a MSStyle for your own use. Get permission from the author to do it and you can upload it here as well....Snidely Whiplash has ported a lot of MSStyle stuff

hellish911
Reply #25 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:30 PM
Wizop, I wasn't demanding anything. I was simply stating the facts and I wasn't implying that people should skin for 'me.' I'm not trying to get people to do the work for me at all. I'm simply suggesting that you guys take a look in the "Themes" and "Suites" section of this website and decide for yourself if you see too many glossy, bubbled out themes. And then decide for yourself if you'd like to see something different or not. I see this GUI Olympics with a grand prize of $10,000 and I'd be overwhelmed if one of these horrible themes won that prize because the 'judges' didn't have much to look at as a whole. If someone could help me out with the resources needed to create a WB skin or msstyles or someone that's willing to work with me in it, I'd definitely give out some good idea's.

Essencay
Reply #26 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:32 PM
I just reread #21....your not using ODNT...your using StyleXP? Don't know of a way to port a WB to a MSStyle

hellish911
Reply #27 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:35 PM
I'm not using stylexp, just the uxtheme.dll or whatever for msstyles. The reason I don't use stylexp or windowblinds is because I don't want to have a 'whole' program installed just to skin my system if all I have to do is add a .dll to my system.

Essencay
Reply #28 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:37 PM
Sorry....I'm not much help here with this uxtheme.dll....I tend to steer clear of hacked system files Just a personal preference thing.

hellish911
Reply #29 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:40 PM
That's the funny thing.. Most of my desktop modifications came from editing system files, replacing and editing.. I never was scared to dig deep for something that I wanted to do with my desktop. Reinstalling is easy when you have 540gigs of hd space to back up your stuff on.

Matchbook
Reply #30 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:41 PM
...and then, without warning, jealousy rears it's ugly head....

Don't like the art? Don't LOOK AT IT ya fool.


[in reference to comment 1...]

hellish911
Reply #31 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:44 PM
I could say the same for this post.. Don't like what I have to say, don't comment on it. Ya fool.

HG_Eliminator
Reply #32 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:48 PM
i personally like my Glossy,bubbly desktop (shown in my profile). wink
to each his own i say.

i guess sum havent heard the phrase "if u dont have any thing nice to say its best to not say anything".

while i agree the squared glossy themes get a little redundant, they are of good quality and nice to look at ... definately not crap....

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sig101
Reply #33 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:56 PM
ooch, hellish911, you're the Howard Dean of skinning discussions, aren't you? j/k

Not quibbling with your ideas per se, but jeez you'd probably could incite more interest for some one to work with you if you exercised a tad more tact.

Although you do appear to like some of essorant's work so that's a redeeming feature.

The GUI Olympics likely will be an occasion for people to pull out the stops and do the tour de force thing so I'm guessing there won't be many really minimalistic skins. But perhaps someone will submit some adventures in minimalism just to widen the variety of works.


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hellish911
Reply #34 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:06 PM
Not nessesarily minimalistic, but definitely something with taste. Maybe some flat functional menu's with a floating effect and good color coordination. Shadows, etc. When I see these themes on here, I see people looking for depth by using the domed shapes and rounded looking menu's. But that, for some reason tends to turn me off. That's why I say 'floating' and shadows.. I see it as a better way to add depth. But I think in the GUIOlympics, they'll be looking for great functionality and even better looks Good color coordination, maybe some GUI movement, like moving hidable menu's and fading effects, but very smooth and very streamline. Something that's catchy, but not overdone.

Essencay
Reply #35 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:19 PM
Try playing with WindowFX....has a lot of different effects...Shadows, Transitions effects, Fades, Transparency, Window Tiling...

hellish911
Reply #36 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:21 PM
Yea, I really like that program. I'm starting to mess with DesktopX2.10 and I'm creating new objects, but I have no idea where to start. Are there any tutorial's that I could look over to get an idea of what does what?

Essencay
Reply #37 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:26 PM
https://www.stardock.com/products/desktopx/resources.asp Various Stardock Guides

hellish911
Reply #38 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:30 PM
You're a huge help, Essencay. I sincerely thank you for it.

Essencay
Reply #39 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:33 PM
No Problem

Sput
Reply #40 Wednesday, March 3, 2004 8:37 PM
the closest I've seen to what I think people with real taste are looking for.


Hmmm - whilst I agree with you that a lot of themes/skins here (and everywhere else) tend to be of a kind (guilty myself) this phrase implies that what you like is the only thing that can be "real taste"...and of course anything you don't like is poor taste by definition then. On that attitude I couldn't disagree with you more.

As an example of something I'm trying to do to be different, see this thread: https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WCS&id=251880 - though, I think I'd agree with you didn't call this theme "good taste"

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