Family Site? What has happened?

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 by Phoon | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I normally try to maintain a fairly even, supportive attitude here and try not to stir the fires too much, but when it comes to something like this, it is time to stand up and say something.
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=8&SkinID=14200

Supposedly, this is a Family oriented site. Am I mistaken in that?
I feel that material such as this has no business at all on WC, nor do I understand how this made it passed moderation.
Now, I'm certainly no saint and my objection to this type of material here does not reflect any negativity at all on the person which submitted this, nor does it reflect on my own personal taste in art. I do however feel that this type of material demonstrates a very negative image on the community we have here and should not be allowed.

So break out your flame throwers upon me if you must, I am prepared.
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kongit
Reply #61 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:08 PM
you don't have complete freedom within this site. The moderators and admins (and those above them) control this site. If they don't want drug related work on this site so be it.
kona0197
Reply #62 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:09 PM
If they don't want drug related work on this site so be it.


I don't want drug related content on this site either. and I am just a citzen.
Jafo
Reply #63 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:14 PM

webgizmos...sorry, but 'free speech' doesn't raise its [ugly] head here at all.

Wincustomize.com is a Private site....where every 'member' [me, too] is a Visitor, nothing more.

It is this very membership, from Frogboy [UserID 1] to the latest...[UserID 740,000+ somewhere] who collectively determine through consensus what is, and is not acceptable.

At various 'levels', various people are charged with the task of 'overseeing' that appropriate [agreed] conduct/material is maintained.

Wallpapers [being story boards, as such] are one prime concern as their content is frequently contentious on MANY levels, and is simply not accepted.

If you want the so-called 'right to free speech' [often mis-quoted and mis-understood] there are sites wher one can post whatever they wish, and many do.

Or...

One can create one's own site and D.I.Y......though be wary of the rules of one's ISP, and also the Telecommunications Act, which prohibits quite more than one would imagine...

Jafo
Reply #64 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:16 PM
Do I get a prize for using all those 'one's?....
kongit
Reply #65 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:17 PM
I'd give you a dollar if i had one
IPlural
Reply #66 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:19 PM
want a Fosters instead?



IPlural makes notice that this was just a joking poke in Leo's ribs with a slight tickel attached
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WebGizmos
Reply #67 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:43 PM
No problem Jafo...I can and will always respect a websites rules. But It's one thing if a site lays out the rules ahead of time and someone trys to get passed them, but when a wallpaper is submitted, accepted, and then removed because of one persons opinion or propaganda...then that is a problem that needs to be addressed. I just get tired of people laying blame on inanimate objects..i.e. guns, cars, pot...rather than taking responibilty for their own actions and then I'm told I'm being offensive! I probably shouldn't have wasted my time on this thread.
Jafo
Reply #68 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:55 PM
webgizmos....just read #54...it's the salient point...
IPlural
Reply #69 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:09 PM
yeah and salty too!
HG_Eliminator
Reply #70 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:53 PM
jafo posted the wall and then posted here just to get the consensus of what the community deems as acceptable ...the majority opposed it being up.
IPlural
Reply #71 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:55 PM
then I would assume that it is found not to be acceptable and not even under consideration when such is submitted
Phoon
Reply #72 Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:30 AM
but when a wallpaper is submitted, accepted, and then removed because of one persons opinion or propaganda...


webgizmos..
Just because I started the thread, does not mean it is "one persons opinion or propaganda".
If I had not started this, then someone else would have.
It should be painfully obvious to you that the vast majority of users here, do not find this type of material satisfactory for a "Family Oriented Site". Most of us probably have no personal objection to the item itself and might even use it. But it simply does not belong here. That is all we are saying.
Stumpy
Reply #73 Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:49 AM
Hmmm.... Interesting fight here (sorry Debate)and my opinion will not change anything, but I will add that nobody has thought of the copyright (or Trademark) issues and the fact that the manufacturer may not be amused that their product was associated with a rather iffy substance.

Being a smoker myself (and once upon a time the other substance also) I will refrain from commenting on the actual content of the wallpaper, but on the subject of protecting children from such images is akin to protecting them from Porn Images.

Sorry to ramble, carry on the good work all




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Jafo
Reply #74 Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:09 AM

Stumpy....the concept of 'fair use' would apply to the use of the Camel image, particularly as it's in 'parody', an 'out' under US Copyright usage provisions [though interestingly no comparative clause applies in Australian law, for example].

The issue therefore was not with legitimacy of use, but with 'content'...

Stumpy
Reply #75 Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:37 AM
Ok, did not really see a large version of said picture, as it would not zoom, but can see your point, thanks



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SelfExiled
Reply #76 Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 PM
Hey man, pass the j----.
Chuckf1
Reply #77 Friday, December 19, 2003 2:03 PM

Well whatever it was, it ain't there any more

I was looking to be either 1.) amused or 2.) outraged.

Now I'm just baffled >

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