John Grudger Part 2
Saturday, November 22, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have closed the other thread since ChichiGirl's husband was trying to turn it into a totally different topic of "Where's my wife's OD refund" (to which all I can say is I'll ask about it on Monday, I think I along with every admin on this site want to ensure that there is no reason whatsoever for chichigirl or her husband to have to visit this site).
But apparently this author's skins: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?authorid=222721 are claimed by ChiChigirl too.
I checked my email for emails from Chichi, there are a lot of them over the past number of years, and there was one in Feburary that made a mention of this person's skins.
Apparently there is dispute between John Grudger and ChiChigirl over who has rights on these skins. ChiChiGirl claims to have co-designed them. John Grudger claims to have made them. We don't know, but it is up to the accuser to provide the evidence and as one might not be surprised to hear, we are not favorably disposed to ChiChiGirl given her past behavior to take her at her word.
Jafo - whatever you think is best is okay with me. It's a sticky situation. What apparently sparked it was that John updated his/her skins again and uploaded a bunch of new ones recently which sparked this new episode. If ChiChiGirl can prove she authored the skins then they are hers and those skins should be removed. Though it remains beyond me why someone would want to rip ChiChiGirl's skins.
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Reply #2 Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:26 AM
As posted previously, as I recall it was left to be determined/resolved amongst the two co-claimants, as it was alleged to be a collaborative project.
The determination of authority to publish between such a 'partnership' is not within the realm of a site's administration but is the responsibility of the persons involved, and or their legal counsel.
I think that is the only appropriate public position, however either party or both are free to use private communication to proffer their respective case/s....
Reply #4 Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:30 AM
Well said.
Based on what I have seen, it would appear that one part: Chichi and Hobnobber have chosen to take the route of trying to intimidate others into agreeing to their wishes.
Having already exhausted that on this site to the point of being exiled, she then allegedly emailed eople who commented on John Grudger's skins harassing them. Then went onto SkinBase to post...yet another...rant on how unfair and evil WinCustomize is and how all of this is my personal fault as if I am somehow personally involved with Jon Grudger's skins or her dispute with this guy.
As you said, Jafo, it isn't this site's place to decide ownership on a skin when ownership of said skin isn't clear. That is for those two to work out amongst themselves. Harassing users and making abusive and just nasty posts here and on other sites is not the way to resolve it.
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Reply #8 Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:46 AM
kind of makes me glad I only have a little life. Ah well.....*how 'bout them lakers....*
Reply #9 Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:01 AM
.......I don't understand these threads at all....
Reply #12 Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:13 AM
GM - I must have fried more brain cells then I thought....what's '42' ?
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Reply #14 Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:17 AM
and here I thought it was 12 ounce curls
Reply #15 Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:19 AM
...that and the hair on the palm of my right hand are a dead giveaway..
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Reply #19 Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:37 AM
....pics anyone????????
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Reply #20 Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:41 AM
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Reply #1 Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:20 AM