Any more news on Skinning 11 ??

To whom it may concern.

Wednesday, May 25, 2022 by neone6 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

It was said that something is in the werks for skinning 11... 

ANY news would be greatly appreciated !!! 

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neone6
Reply #1 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:37 AM

operator33

maybe provided there is no nuclear war, is thus in the year 2023 or later, irony off
-No, I referred to more Recent News than that

c242
Reply #2 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:31 PM

I would sooooo like to use at least Groupy and Curtains.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #3 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:58 PM

I do know that Windowblinds 11 is currently in the "oven" ... Hopefully it bakes at 450 degrees so it will be done soon.  

DrJBHL
Reply #4 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:04 PM

It'll be done when it's done. Like most all SD software it'll probably be released as a beta, initially with a good deal of scrutiny as to software conflicts. Here's hoping MS gets its act together with the W11 GUI.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #5 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:39 PM

DrJBHL

It'll be done when it's done. Like most all SD software it'll probably be released as a beta, initially with a good deal of scrutiny as to software conflicts. Here's hoping MS gets its act together with the W11 GUI.

I wouldn't be surprised to see an alpha version of Windowblinds 11 first. There could be benefits of letting the subscribers getting their eyes on it first.

As far as w11 GUI is concerned, I do think the beta channel is starting to settle in some. Although Microsoft is known for throwing curve balls. I think the real problem child is going to be the dev channel. I do hope the demand for that channel goes down compared to beta

neone6
Reply #6 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 5:17 PM

PhoenixRising1

I do know that Windowblinds 11 is currently in the "oven"
-Yes that is what I am referring to.

-It was mentioned in one of the posts/threads that it was indeed cooking, so I was hoping for an update regarding this.    

neone6
Reply #7 Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:48 PM

operator33

he can't know what is programmed work wise at SD or what is the plan of SD
-That's where you are wrong. -He (and Me) refer to a statement from Stardock fairly recently in another post.

sdRohan of Stardock wrote:

sdRohan

Funny you should ask... We have something in the oven and will have more news fairly soon.

Appreciate your patience and look forward to your feedback when we have something to show.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

-I started this thread to maybe get an update on the Status of this

DrJBHL
Reply #8 Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:37 AM

PhoenixRising1

I wouldn't be surprised to see an alpha version of Windowblinds 11 first. There could be benefits of letting the subscribers getting their eyes on it first.

I would be...surprised, that is. Alpha releases are rare in propritary software, more common in open source programs. I can't remember SD ever releasing an alpha. I think the complaints would far outweigh any possible gain. What might happen is an article in WC News with screen shots of the new WB beta shortly before or at the time of its release. I could be wrong, though.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #9 Thursday, May 26, 2022 1:41 AM

DrJBHL

I can't remember SD ever releasing an alpha

The last alpha SD released was Fences 4. This is something they do from time to time and the releases are only available to OD subscribers. That way no one actually pays for the alpha releases specifically in case there are rough edges.

Windows 11 has an entire channel dedicated to alpha releases, it is called the dev channel. So, it is something that is becoming more common.

Jafo
Reply #10 Thursday, May 26, 2022 2:58 AM

PhoenixRising1

The last alpha SD released was Fences 4. This is something they do from time to time and the releases are only available to OD subscribers.

Object Desktop has an option to 'show beta downloads' ....for early access.  It has always been the option because generally Skinners were the Subscribers and also understood the development process and what to expect [and not expect] from the 'beta' program, something the general user was oblivious about...assuming all things released were supposed to be problem free.

Then along came Windows 10 and everyone is required to put up with betas...even with the OS itself.

Stardock's alpha program is 'internal' only...

PhoenixRising1
Reply #11 Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:36 AM


Stardock's alpha program is 'internal' only...

Edit - I have found proof that Fences 4 alpha existed here. The thread closed when Fences Beta 1 was released. It was bothering me because I remembered it so well.

https://forums.stardock.com/507683/page/1/#3824231

 

Now we just need some news on Windowblinds 11 as well   

DrJBHL
Reply #12 Thursday, May 26, 2022 4:32 AM

DrJBHL

I would be...surprised...
I could be wrong, though.

https://www.stardock.com/news/507199/now-announcing-fences-4---get-into-the-alpha-today

First time I've SD do that. The ad I saw was for Fences 4 beta. But then again, I never install alphas and only rarely late betas.

PhoenixRising1
"Now you guys are making me feel like I am going crazy."

That might or might not be tied to Fences 4 alpha.   

PhoenixRising1
Reply #13 Thursday, May 26, 2022 4:44 AM

 


DrJBHL

First time I've SD do that.

It is hard to say whether it was a one time thing or not. Fences 4 was kind of a pilot test for alphas I think.

The better question is if an alpha would work with Windowblinds 11 or not? In my opinion, probably only if it is backwards compatible with windowblinds 10 era of skins.

DrJBHL
Reply #14 Thursday, May 26, 2022 4:51 AM

PhoenixRising1

The better question is if an alpha would work with Windowblinds 11 or not? In my opinion, probably only if it is backwards compatible with windowblinds 10 era of skins.

An even better one might be how one alpha might interact with another alpha (which W11 seems to be), and whether one would have a functional machine afterward.

MS seems to forget to tell early users and regular users how to fix things when they head south.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #15 Thursday, May 26, 2022 5:02 AM

DrJBHL

An even better one might be how one alpha might interact with another alpha (which W11 seems to be), and whether one would have a functional machine afterward.

An even better question. If Windows 11 is an alpha, does that then make all software on Windows 11 also alpha.   

Hopefully they finish Windows 11 sometime

neone6
Reply #16 Thursday, May 26, 2022 6:00 AM

sdRohan, where art thou.......  

DrJBHL
Reply #17 Thursday, May 26, 2022 7:26 AM

operator33

October 2022 launch of Windows 11 22H2, SD Windowblinds 11 Release possibly 2023.

2023 that was not a typo, every operating system windows , mac, linux gets updates and has bugs because there is not and can not be 100 percent finished and bug free software, so the talk of windows 11 is not finished is nonsense, it works without problems for millions of users.

I still remember that MS said W10 would be their last OS being updated periodically. 

When we say "finished", we're talking MS finalizing the W11 GUI. MS's W11 GUI is unlike W10's, and is being changed with features being added and removed from build to build.

It's pretty clear that every OS can be considered a beta by virtue of being periodically updated.

 

naroon1
Reply #18 Thursday, May 26, 2022 8:58 AM

As we now know something is in the oven, when can we see something for beta testing, no harm in updating peeps to what stage and how brown the cooking  is.    

neone6
Reply #19 Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:19 AM

neone6

sdRohan, where art thou.......  

naroon1

no harm in updating peeps to what stage and how brown the cooking  is.    

Jafo
Reply #20 Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:35 AM

PhoenixRising1

It is hard to say whether it was a one time thing or not

Nope, it's not hard at all.  I've been here a little longer.

It's simply the exception that proves the rule...

I didn't notice that the Alpha for '4' was released into the wild...but it would have been a reaction to the situation that BOTH OS's were barely Betas themselves, with well documented eternal revisions of the GUI.

Object Desktop is still the mechanism by which early access is granted.

Unlike Microsoft, Stardock prefers to limit access to 'things' that may have issues.

operator33....yes, there are probably millions of users who see no issues with Windows 11.  There will also be millions of users who actually do have problems but are blissfully ignorant of the fact.

And there are millions of users who know the OS is not yet baked for consumption.

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