Censorship Vs free expression

Sunday, September 28, 2003 by Jafo | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

On a publicly accessible 'Family' website, what are YOUR thoughts regarding the line beyond which no-one should cross?

What is considered 'inappropriate' to you?

And why?

 

 

Needless to say, this is not the forum for boundary crossing  but an open discussion on where lines really SHOULD be drawn.

I will be at pains to stress that at no time is there a 'double standard' being applied and to suggest such is insulting to the reputation/s and moral conduct of the moderators here.

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IPlural
Reply #121 Monday, September 29, 2003 9:57 PM
oh a BIG FAT DESCRIPTION OF AN ACCEPTABLE COMMENT might have some affect, with a warning of summary exhalation upon stepping over the line... Or maybe forcing people to read what is acceptable in the way of critiquing both positive or negative before being allowed to make comments and a small reminder on the comment edit page?



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horiz0n
Reply #122 Monday, September 29, 2003 9:57 PM
Sure Jafo, no problem. If I catch more I'll be sure to let you know, pronto.
Jafo
Reply #123 Monday, September 29, 2003 9:58 PM
#121  by  Shmoopy - 9/29/2003 9:53:56 PM

Jafo, that's just it darlin'...it still comes down to us working as a community as a WHOLE to bring these things to you so that you may deal with them.

Yelling FIRE or RAPE! On a message board is oft not as effective as bringing the problem straight to an Admin who has resources to deal with certain things.

But WHO IN THE uhm *****? am I kidding...I knew nothing about this place when I first sucked down 2 years worth of skins...crazy

 

A case in point....

IPlural
Reply #124 Monday, September 29, 2003 9:58 PM
it really sucks that the thought even came about really....


anyway.... ok, mum is me

IPlural looks down and pulls shirt neck out, ahhh, well.... I'll be lurking now



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Angel_Wings
Reply #125 Monday, September 29, 2003 9:58 PM
Erm...and just to put some perspective on the sitch...I was one of those greedy downloaders for years who always figured the skins were made by some stardock employees...I loved Stardock stuff in the n00b years and I always assumed the people who skinned were payed.

Wow...what a wake-up call!



Angel_Wings looks in the mirror and yells, YOU ASS!" hehe
IPlural
Reply #126 Monday, September 29, 2003 10:00 PM
oh one thing, how about a hardware section? for connection support and upgrades, trouble shooting...

mmm, whos going to figure out how to get everyone to post in the correct sections we already have ?



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IPlural
Reply #127 Monday, September 29, 2003 10:02 PM
ah Shmoopy thats not fair...



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horiz0n
Reply #128 Monday, September 29, 2003 10:07 PM
when i first came aboard i assumed 3 or 4 peeps ran the whole thing, i never would have fallen in love with this place if it wasn't so user based
IPlural
Reply #129 Monday, September 29, 2003 10:19 PM
oh and people could also list hardware items they might happen to have to sell....

though that might also open up a question of liability....





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Jafo
Reply #130 Monday, September 29, 2003 10:22 PM

horiz0n.....Brad [Frogboy], when setting up this site wanted to engender a sense of community involvement via the tiered levels of 'ranking' from Visitor/Citizen to Admin/Moderator, with steps/levels in between, and, [shock-horror] it tends to work.

Brad has had many years of Net experience to draw upon, using a similar format.....where responsibility/influence upon the workings and success of the site increase through tried and true methods such as time, experience and reputation.

When the concept was first mooted there was significant opposition relating to thoughts of prejudice/discrimination which, by and large has NOT been the case....not when the whole process is akin to the saying about "Big fleas have little fleas, on their backs to bite them....etc".

Ultimately each person will reach his/her level.....commensurate with their degree of involvement/ambition/devotion to the site and its community and success...

horiz0n
Reply #131 Monday, September 29, 2003 10:38 PM
cool, had no idea about some of that.
hashonboat
Reply #132 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:40 AM
Shmoopy closes her eyes tight and wishes hard..."I DO so wish all the ideology of 'flaming' someone would FINALLY cease and let the cooler heads of moderators prevail. Imagine if you will...a forum where a shmuck happens to post and nobody responds to his 'troll rants' (which brings his ugly cause to the TOP of the forum heap every time someone DOES repsond) but rather a member/s quietly email/s an admin and the troll is either warned/thread-locked/exiled etc.


Lady Akasha was in no way intended to be seen as posting a Flame. I will send her an e-mail apologizing for the mix-up. It's just the order in which the post came through. It was the above post I took umbrage to. Up until the name calling in that post I think the discussion was pretty civilized and on-topic.
Sugaree
Reply #133 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:10 AM
That was a flame? The "name calling" In Shmoops post, I'm pretty positive, was not directed at you, Hash.
My, my you are a touchy fellow

Doreen
Reply #134 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:17 AM
listen to China Hash, I'm pretty sure Angela was not directing that to you at all... hehe
hashonboat
Reply #135 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:26 AM
That was a flame? The "name calling" In Shmoops post, I'm pretty positive, was not directed at you, Hash.


Whether it was directed towards me or not, I was under the impression that name calling is flaming and hence unacceptable. I've been around here for about 15 months now and observed what goes on here. Mostly good and fun, but I don't appreciate double-standards. Either it is ok or not. Whether it is from an 'ole-timer or noob.

And China, IF you knew me you would know I am not thin-skinned or a prude at all. Example, I saw someone question my nick as having to do with drugs. Not in the slightest!! It's a very old and very risque' (did I spell that right)inside joke between myself and my friends. Only a few people know what it really means. I'll give you a hint. Hash refers to food and that's all I'll say about it.

My feelings are not hurt. I hold no grudges or ill will towards anyone here and will not stop frequenting this board.

I do believe though that this thread has run it's course so I won't be back to it. So just in case you're curious about my nick. E-mail me.

Later Taters
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Sugaree
Reply #136 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:56 AM
O wait Hash One question...Is your 14 yr old daughter privy to your risqué nick or do you let her think her daddy is some kind of drug smuggler?

JK!
Sugaree
Reply #137 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:01 AM
Angel_Wings
Reply #138 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:36 AM
Eek! That's what I get for wishing aloud.

Seriously though...the wishes against flaming were from a past-tense perspective is all and not aimed at anyone in this particular thread. A 'shmuck' is a fairly tame 'name' used for some trolls that have come and gone in the past.

Angel_Wings sneaks out before she gets herself in trouble and crawls her way to the coffee pot...
Lady_Akasha
Reply #139 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:49 AM
#132 by hashonboat - 9/30/2003 4:40:19 AM


Lady Akasha was in no way intended to be seen as posting a Flame


Thanks for that Cuz I was really confuzled as to what the heck I did wrong. I kept thinking "Dang, I was on his side" I was thinking last night it was the ".... uncouth" statement, cuz I couldn't figure out how I was flaming. K... I feel a lil better now.

And by the by, Drugs never crossed my mind with his nickname.
MadIce
Reply #140 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:55 AM
I can still see a nasty comment at this https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=8&SkinID=702 .



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