My son wanted Alienware and I talked him into this freaking Mac :p
Monday, September 15, 2003 by IPlural | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
been updated to OX 10.2.6
anyone got a clue?
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Reply #62 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:00 PM
I was talking about a high end Dell...that one goes for $1649...
so even if I did spend $500 on a system built by myself I could build two and have money left over...
And about all this XP talk...I haven't used it in a LONG time. Windows 98 for the last 3 or 4 months.
Reply #63 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:01 PM
| #56 by Tech Cat - 9/22/2003 5:36:45 PM The only legal version of XP Pro I am aware of that does not require software activation is an expensive version for installing on more than one PC for business customers. |
That is through MSDN. You still need a valid serial number, which they will look for, when updating (like to install SP1).
I doubt that Kona has MSDN (since it is some serious cash... thousands per
year). He has a single user license, which should only be on one
machine......I wonder if any of our MS reps snoop these boards 
Reply #64 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:05 PM
| ......I wonder if any of our MS reps snoop these boards |
Wouldn't matter since I am using my Windows 98 machine and not XP.
Reply #65 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:14 PM
Reply #66 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:17 PM
| #62 by ~Legolas - 9/22/2003 6:00:46 PM Link I was talking about a high end Dell...that one goes for $1649... so even if I did spend $500 on a system built by myself I could build two and have money left over... |
uh...you are comparing apples to oranges. Just doesn't make any sense. 
The comparable Dell to your "$500" system would be $899. Except it comes with a keyboard and mouse, full XP install plus other preloaded software, and a free palm pilot. (Not to mention a sound card, speakers, Pentium processor, etc....) You can't compare a high end PC w/ monitor to a budget box. It's like comparing a loaded Mustang to a base Focus...just can't compare them that way.
Reply #67 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:17 PM
| Wouldn't matter since I am using my Windows 98 machine and not XP. |
Reply #68 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:28 PM
Reply #69 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:32 PM
16x EPO Internal IDE DVD-ROM - $29.99
Hitachi (IBM) 120GB DeskStar UATA100 - Bare Hard Drive - $108.99
Intel Pentium 4 3.06GHz, 512K 533 FSB Socket 478 Hyper Threading Tray Processor - $399.90
Pacific Magtron 300W Black Mid Tower ATX Case - $39.99
Patriot 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel 2X512MB CAS2 DDR 184Pin - $229.99
ATI 128MB AGP Video Card with RADEON 9800 PRO 3D Chip - $349.99
MSI 875P Neo2-FIS2R "Canterwood" Motherboard - $209.99
3648955 52x24x52x LG Internal IDE CDRW Drive - $69.99
purchase total: $1,438.83
Sill cheaper than the Dell. And the Dell is on Sale! HA HA HA!
Reply #70 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:42 PM
Windows XP + Software: ~$150
Speakers: ~$80
Monitor: ~$200
Keyboard/Mouse: ~$40
Still cheaper?
Reply #71 Monday, September 22, 2003 6:45 PM
There is a reason that Dell, Compaq, HP, Sony, and other PC makers are losing money. Alot more of us are building are own.
Reply #73 Monday, September 22, 2003 7:00 PM
uh...Dell losing money? Huh? What? You need to research Dell a bit more. 
Besides, why do you think that they cater to the little guy? It's the companies that standardize on them that bring them the cash. The end user is just a bonus. People buy a Dell because they want a dependable, licensed PC that all you have to do is plug in and use. You don't have to mess with fans and hooking up USB. You don't have to mess with a sound card (which you left out of your machine specs, btw) and you don't have to spend hours installing the OS and all the programs and drivers that you need. (Not to mention the hassle that you have if you get a faulty part for your home built machine).
Reply #74 Monday, September 22, 2003 7:01 PM
..wh...oh...present!! Reply #76 Monday, September 22, 2003 7:06 PM
Reply #78 Monday, September 22, 2003 7:09 PM
| You know what the funny thing is Karmagirl? I am using a Dell right now. Silly me! |
That's a classic!Reply #79 Monday, September 22, 2003 7:09 PM
| #76 by ~Legolas - 9/22/2003 7:06:26 PM You know what the funny thing is Karmagirl? I am using a Dell right now. Silly me! |
Then, I guess you're a hypocrite 
| #75 by yrag - 9/22/2003 7:05:32 PM ..wh...oh...present!! |
KarmaGirl slaps yrag around with a dead trout! Quit falling asleep! Jeez!
On that note, it's time for me to go......5am is less than 7 hours from now, and I still have stuff to do before going to bed. **YAWN** There just aren't enough hours in the day!
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Reply #61 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:55 PM
to build a 2.8 ghz machine it costs me around 400 bucks. Sorry, i refuse to pay for the Dell name.
2.4 celeron on Mobo is $109, a 2.8 is...well...do they even make a 2.8 chip?
If there was one, the comparable price would be about $180. So, you were $100 off, still, which is a substantial difference (from $400 to $500)
You were talking earlier about being able to build two *high end* systems for what one Dell would cost. Cheap RAM and an 80 gig drive do not make up a "high end" system.
And, if you use the same copy of XP running on two machines at the same time, it's illegal (against the EULA)