My son wanted Alienware and I talked him into this freaking Mac :p

Monday, September 15, 2003 by IPlural | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

ok, got a g4 ti powerbook with 1 gig of ram that constantly errors out with an out of memory error when loading just about anything...

been updated to OX 10.2.6

anyone got a clue?



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kona0197
Reply #41 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:08 PM
Actually, you don't own Windows XP Pro, it's liscenced to you. Nitpicking aside, you would have to call Microsoft to activate WinXP if you have already activated on another PC before. Linux does not have these kind of restrictions.


not the point. I already know ways around "calling Microsoft" You are correct however about you do not qwn it and all that.

The popint was if you already have all the software it is cheaper to build your own machine instaed of getting a Dell or Campaq, etc.
kona0197
Reply #42 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:08 PM
qwn


own - spelling
KarmaGirl
Reply #43 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:38 PM

$400?  Huh?

OK, 2.8ghz machine:

AMD Athlon (which is cheaper than Intel) 2800 processor and Mo bo combo: $220.00
512 DDR RAM: $145.00
Case w/power supply: $30.00
52x24x52xCD burner: $40.00 (deal on that one)
OEM nVidia, Geforce 4 vid card: $60.00
Ethernet card: $8.00
120 gig hard drive: $80.00

$583 + stuff I'm missing + time to set up and install everything.

I rather pay a bit more and have it delivered to my door ready to plug in and use.  No licensing hassles, no problems.

 

KarmaGirl
Reply #44 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:40 PM
IP, did you ever find out what was wrong with it?  I hope you figured it
out.  I hate dealing with stuff like that.
Tech-Cat
Reply #45 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:41 PM
How do you get around software activation without using a cracked pirated version?
KarmaGirl
Reply #46 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:46 PM
You don't.   Doesn't necessarily have to be cracked...just illegally used on more than one machine.  We get around that at work by buying MSDN and being a Microsoft certified partner.  We still track installs, though.  Best to be legal with software, especially your OS.  I guess Photoshop is going to use MS way of activation from now.  Can't say I blame them- I'm sure their piracy rate is amazing.
Hus
Reply #47 Monday, September 22, 2003 4:55 PM
How does a company measure piracy? Why doesn't Stardock use some form of internet activation? Wouldn't that cut down on your piracy losses?
Tech-Cat
Reply #48 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:07 PM
I hate software activation as an end user. More software activation will just push me closer and closer to open source alternatives. I understand that software activation is meant to prevent software piracy and that software piracy is a bad thing, but I don't appreciate having to go through these kinds of hassles with software I paid for.
KarmaGirl
Reply #49 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:11 PM
Hus, our main products are subscription services.  Your serial number is verified before you can use it.  Galactic Civilizations uses this with the boxed version, also, for updates. Serial numbers for stand alone products also roll with each new release and are tied to the originating user account, so if a number is found, it's easy to trace it back to its owner. We don't go any further with it, because any more than that annoys the customer.
IPlural
Reply #50 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:14 PM
KarmaGirl, yep you and Jafo hit the nail on the head; flakey (going bad) chip on a dimm... Took it up to the local CompUSA with a friend that does Network support for them and they just swapped it out for a known good one. Said they would just send it back for a replacement with one of their RMA's.

It was loading up fine and then when a program attempted to access that board for read/write it would blow the kernal off and tell it, nope no more...

neat huh?

damn fast system, though I did not get to see it render anything, streaming video on this 1.5 mbit connection was like watching a DVD movie without buffering or any other issues one IE would load and Quicktime. It was really odd when I put it next to my P4 and loaded the same stream. The P4 had to load, chug, chug, chug and then start playing. but the G4 hit the site, Quicktime loaded and was rolling instantly....





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KarmaGirl
Reply #51 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:19 PM
The other thing that we do to make it easy on our paying customers is having an easy way to find your download link/serial number (which I wish all companies would do).  The main section of our support page will allow you to have your info emailed to your registered address.  Makes it a snap to redownload and install.  If you need to reinstall an Adobe download, for instance, you have to call them during their business hours so that they can reset the download for you....not too convienent....
KarmaGirl
Reply #52 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:21 PM
IP, glad that you got it sorted out with little hassle.  Now your son can be in computing bliss again
kona0197
Reply #53 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:24 PM
Intel Celeron 2.4GHz Bare CPU W/ ECS L4VXA2 Motherboard (that includes Processor, Mobo) - $109

Mid ATX Case w/ 300W Power Supply - $29.99

Corsair 512MB PC2700 333MHz 64x64 XMS DDR Memory 184Pin - Model #CMX512A-2700C2PT - Lifetime Warranty - $89.99

Hitachi (IBM) 80GB DeskStar 180GXP 07N9685 UATA100 - Bare Hard Drive ( I really do not need 120 Gigs) - $80.00

52x24x52x BTC Internal IDE CDRW Drive - $49.99

Kaser 64MB AGP Video Card with nVidia's GeForce4 MX440 3D Chip - $59.99

Airlink+ - Model #ASHOVIA - 10/100Mbps PCI Network Card - $6.99


TOTAL=426.00

So I went over a little. I usually do not get a Nvidia video card.

Karmagirl: it can be done. When you buy a prebuilt system you pay for the name. I am sure your system costs more than this one does. I will save my money and build one.

Tech cat: I have my ways but I will say I have never had to call Microsoft. And no, I am not using a Pirated copy of XP.









Tech-Cat
Reply #54 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:28 PM
Tech cat: I have my ways but I will say I have never had to call Microsoft. And no, I am not using a Pirated copy of XP.


hmmm, you won't say how you manage to get around it. Must be either against the EULA or against the law.
kona0197
Reply #55 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:31 PM
it's called typing in the 25 digit serial number. Thats all it asks me for.
Tech-Cat
Reply #56 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:36 PM
Where did you get your copy of XP pro from? XP Home asks for both the serial number and asks to activate with Microsoft within 30 days. XP Pro from a store like Best Buy or Wal-Mart does the same thing. The only legal version of XP Pro I am aware of that does not require software activation is an expensive version for installing on more than one PC for business customers.
kona0197
Reply #57 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:39 PM
Its been a long time I do not remember where I bought it. I never have had to call Microsoft to activate windows. Everytime I run the activation thing it says XP is already activated.
Tech-Cat
Reply #58 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:42 PM
Does XP give you that icon in the system tray reminding you to activate until you do run the activation? Once you are done activating then it says it has already been activated. Have you installed your copy on other PCs before?
kona0197
Reply #59 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:46 PM
No XP does not give me that icon. I have only installed on computers I own. 2 to be exact.
Tech-Cat
Reply #60 Monday, September 22, 2003 5:52 PM
I hope it's some cracked version you got off of ebay. Did your copy come in a box, and is the label side of your installation CD shiny?

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