Creation vs. Evolution
Thursday, September 11, 2003 by grayhaze | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I thought I'd pre-empt this discussion before Kona's comment in the other thread sparked it off there. There is concrete proof that we evolved, but no proof that we were created. What's you're opinion, and why?
To quote Phoebe from Friends: "I guess the real question is who put those fossils there and why?"
To quote Phoebe from Friends: "I guess the real question is who put those fossils there and why?"
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KarmaGirl
Reply #362 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:50 PM
Reply #362 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:50 PM
I always view the bible of a collection of sensationalized tales. Living
by its words would be like living by the words of Canterbury Tales. If
somebody can prove that the bible is anything but that, then I will
listen. I can not live by blind faith. I have been put under for
operations too many times to believe in life after death. I *know* what that is
like- there is no pain, there is no sorrow, there is no hunger (sound a bit
familiar?) That is because there is nothing....
by its words would be like living by the words of Canterbury Tales. If
somebody can prove that the bible is anything but that, then I will
listen. I can not live by blind faith. I have been put under for
operations too many times to believe in life after death. I *know* what that is
like- there is no pain, there is no sorrow, there is no hunger (sound a bit
familiar?) That is because there is nothing....
Doreen
Reply #363 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:15 PM
Reply #363 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:15 PM
Java don't laugh at me but I am the biggest baby when it comes to pain and one time I had to go to the dentist for a filling or something (this was in the past I never let them put me under for anything now) but this one time I remember I went to the dentist for my check up and had a cavity and I told the Doc to knock me out or he ain't touching me... hehe
so he gave me some kind twighlight sleep gas or something and it was one of the worst things I have ever experienced cuz I was only knocked out to the point of not being able to move or open my eyes! but I could still "hear and feel" everything, him talking the radio in the background and the pain of him filling that stupid cavity! hehe
to me Hell would be like this you would die and have all your senses and be forever in torment.
whoops sorry me got side tracked what I was trying to tell you Java is that I had the opposite experience w/ being put under.
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so he gave me some kind twighlight sleep gas or something and it was one of the worst things I have ever experienced cuz I was only knocked out to the point of not being able to move or open my eyes! but I could still "hear and feel" everything, him talking the radio in the background and the pain of him filling that stupid cavity! hehe
to me Hell would be like this you would die and have all your senses and be forever in torment.
whoops sorry me got side tracked what I was trying to tell you Java is that I had the opposite experience w/ being put under.
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joetheblow
Reply #364 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:39 PM
I don't think that is Evolution. Human beings having new toys is not a hujman being who used to look like a 4' 8" hairy creature.
No one has seen evolution.
The very same Bible that man write is the very same science that man is writing.
Reply #364 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:39 PM
| #356 by Scribe Fuzzy Logic - 9/17/2003 4:49:39 PM Evolution is right in front of us. We don't need to read about it, we can see it for ourselves. Today you are using a pc, 30 years ago they were sci-fi. A simple example of man's evolution in the same way Stone Age man developed bronze, Bronze Age man developed iron and so on. |
I don't think that is Evolution. Human beings having new toys is not a hujman being who used to look like a 4' 8" hairy creature.
No one has seen evolution.
The very same Bible that man write is the very same science that man is writing.
The Rated PG
Reply #365 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:53 PM
Reply #365 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:53 PM
Here's something for you all. (I have 1 thumb on my left hand.) (There is a God who created us.) At this very moment in time which of the two statements do you have more knowledge, supporting facts, supporting evidence, theories, hypothesis, perceptions, interpretations, etc?
bordfryr
Reply #366 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:59 PM
Reply #366 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:59 PM
So, if evolution is true, how did it come to pass that those first few "life forms" evolved into grass, trees, flowers, vegetables, fruits, etc. and some evolved into the "animals" (dogs, cats, horses, pigs, kangaroos,etc)
Sound just too fantastic and way too many "accidents" and "coincidences" to believe.
Sound just too fantastic and way too many "accidents" and "coincidences" to believe.
MadIce
Reply #367 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:11 PM
Reply #367 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:11 PM
Nah. Actually the story is very simple. God lives for ever and he just didn't know what to do with all the time he had. So he designed the millions of life forms one by one. 
bordfryr
Reply #368 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:12 PM
I knew that.
Reply #368 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:12 PM
| So he designed the millions of life forms one by one. |
I knew that.
Doreen
Reply #369 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:14 PM
Reply #369 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:14 PM
Well I still think Seahorses are the bestest thing he came up w/ during all his creating... hehe
MadIce
Reply #370 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:17 PM
Reply #370 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:17 PM
He must have been bored when he created the virii.
bordfryr
Reply #372 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:19 PM
I think that is the result of sin.
Reply #372 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:19 PM
| He must have been bored when he created the virii |
I think that is the result of sin.
paxx
Reply #373 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:23 PM
Reply #373 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:23 PM
bordfryr, to understand that, you'd have to understand how a cell is made. And explaining that would be way too boring. Lets just say that there really isn't that much difference between a plant cell and an animal cell. They both have a nucleus in the center, within which there is DNA. But the funny thing is that plant cells have everything an animal cell has and more: cell walls and chlorophile. The cell walls is because plants don't have a skeleton (neither inside or outside), so the cell walls ensure that plants can stand straight. Mainlym that's the only difference between a plant and an animal. It's not too hard to imagine millions of years ago, when the sea still covered 100% of the planet surface, that simple lifeforms (one cell, or few cells) could have mutated into two groups.
Hey, that kinda reminds me, did you know that cetaceans (sea mamals such as whales and dolphins) are actually thought to have been land animals that went back in the water? Guess what the ancestor of the whale is thought to be? The wolf. Funny.
Doreen
Reply #374 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:25 PM
Reply #374 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:25 PM
yeah let's not bring what "we" are creating lets keep this on what God has created (much more betterrrr) hehe
Kona I have to disagree w/ you it's the Seahorse! nothing on earth compares to them...
Kona I have to disagree w/ you it's the Seahorse! nothing on earth compares to them...
bordfryr
Reply #375 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:26 PM
Obviously, hasn't read the Bible.
Reply #375 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:26 PM
| #362 by Admin KarmaGirl - 9/17/2003 5:50:10 PM I always view the bible of a collection of sensationalized tales |
Obviously, hasn't read the Bible.
Doreen
Reply #376 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:26 PM
Reply #376 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:26 PM
what paxxy? I never heard that? that is funny...
Doreen tries to picture a barking whale
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Doreen tries to picture a barking whale
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paxx
Reply #377 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:27 PM
Reply #377 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:27 PM
Actually, the virus is actually probably the most evolved lifeform on earth (as in "best adapted for survival"). It mutates all the time, so much that it's almost impossible to erradicate.
There will still be virii long after any sign of humanity will have disapeared.
There will still be virii long after any sign of humanity will have disapeared.
bordfryr
Reply #378 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:28 PM
Reply #378 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:28 PM
I'm going to dissappear, to bed! 
"night everybody.
"night everybody.
Doreen
Reply #379 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:29 PM
Reply #379 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:29 PM
well we certainly are helping mush and mix up that virus stuff around really good making it mutate alil faster, maybe when we are gone it will slow down some?
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Reply #361 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:36 PM