Is Microsoft going to own the next generation DVD format?
Monday, July 28, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I think Microsoft is going to own the next generation DVD format. And I don’t say that as a Microsoft booster. I think it’s just the route that is going to make the most sense.
When I bought the new Terminator 2 DVD, the second DVD came with the full movie at 1080P (that’s P, not I) which is essentially super-duper High Definition TV. It was all in a collection of .WMV files and it all fit on a single DVD.
Moreover, with a computer with a DVD drive, I could watch this DVD on any screen – regular TV or the various other HDTV standards. It would just scale to whather and do so pretty seamlessly.
What I predict is that you’ll see new DVDs come with support for WMV files. Think about it, one DVD holding a 1080P (1080 lines of resolution) movie. Right now, most DVDs get filled up with a single 480P movie because they are so poorly compressed.
So Microsoft will end up owning the next generation format. This is a market Apple could have owned.
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Frogboy
Reply #2 Monday, July 28, 2003 6:50 PM
Reply #2 Monday, July 28, 2003 6:50 PM
I like the idea of being able to watch HDTV moveis on a normal DVD! 
paxx
Reply #3 Monday, July 28, 2003 7:05 PM
Reply #3 Monday, July 28, 2003 7:05 PM
It's probably going to be 10 years before I can affort a HDTV, or maybe more. It'll happen when HDTV's are roughly to same price as regular TV. For now, I'll continue to watch DVD's on a 480 lines TV. 
Tech-Cat
Reply #4 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:01 PM
Reply #4 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:01 PM
I hope Microsoft doesn't get their greedy hands on our precious DVD technology.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #5 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:05 PM
Reply #5 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:05 PM
resistance is futile u will be assimilated 
Tech-Cat
Reply #6 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:08 PM
Reply #6 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:08 PM
I refuse to be dependent on Billy's Crashware. If MS owns the HDTV DVD technology then I will stick with regular DVD or use whatever alternative HDTV format the anti-MS leaders in the tech industry come up with to rival MS HDTV DVD.
aufisch
Reply #7 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:29 PM
Reply #7 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:29 PM
I agree with Tech Cat on that, the thought that Microsoft will get its hands on DVD technology and make it exclusive to its products makes me feel uneasy. Don't get me wrong here, I am a devout WinXP user but should one single company really have so much power?
Oh here I go again, worrying about things I have no influence on...
Oh here I go again, worrying about things I have no influence on...
DavidK
Reply #8 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:31 PM
Reply #8 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:31 PM
This'll be great... the DVD will only play in YOUR player, if you buy a new DVD player you'll have to get an activation code from Microsoft for it to play the movie. It will regularly contact MS to let them know how many times you've watched it and how many people were in the room (and their names and addresses if they've bought any RFID clothes from Walmart). 
Tech-Cat
Reply #9 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:42 PM
Reply #9 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:42 PM
One reason I do not use TIVO or Replay TV is that they report what you watch. If you watch Will and Grace just one time, your TIVO will think you are gay. It's nice that TIVO runs on Linux, but the spyware is a big minus >
aufisch
Reply #10 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:44 PM
Reply #10 Monday, July 28, 2003 11:44 PM
Oh gosh, my hands start shaking and my knees are trembling; we are not far away from Orwell's 1984!!!! 
wombat_1
Reply #11 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:48 AM
Rampant Paranoia???? Himmel! Time to borrow Frogboy's Tinfoil hat!
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Reply #11 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:48 AM
| One reason I do not use TIVO or Replay TV is that they report what you watch. If you watch Will and Grace just one time, your TIVO will think you are gay. It's nice that TIVO runs on Linux, but the spyware is a big minus |
Rampant Paranoia???? Himmel! Time to borrow Frogboy's Tinfoil hat!
[Message Edited]
paxx
Reply #12 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:09 AM
Reply #12 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:09 AM
They indeed monitor what is watched, but they claim they don't match the data with the persons. It's supposed to be for statistical reasons only.
Tech-Cat
Reply #13 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:25 AM
...but still, you never know what they are REALLY up to.
Reply #13 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:25 AM
| They indeed monitor what is watched, but they claim they don't match the data with the persons. It's supposed to be for statistical reasons only. |
...but still, you never know what they are REALLY up to.
joetheblow
Reply #14 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:50 PM
Reply #14 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:50 PM
there is a way to match data with out persons or adresses.
I forgot what it is called (the process)
I better remember cause I'll have a test on it soon...
(Now where is my tin foil hat?)
I forgot what it is called (the process)
I better remember cause I'll have a test on it soon...
(Now where is my tin foil hat?)
EventHorizon
Reply #15 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 PM
Reply #15 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 PM
| This'll be great... the DVD will only play in YOUR player, if you buy a new DVD player you'll have to get an activation code from Microsoft for it to play the movie. It will regularly contact MS to let them know how many times you've watched it and how many people were in the room (and their names and addresses if they've bought any RFID clothes from Walmart). |
Tech-Cat
Reply #16 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:16 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:16 PM
I never use Windows Media Player anymore because that too reports what CDs you listen to and what DVDs you watch. Imagine what a MS DVD Player would be like.
MadIce
Reply #17 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:29 AM
Reply #17 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:29 AM
MS is indeed trying to make money. But remember that they are not stupid. They learned a lesson from DirectX. In each generation of DirectX they include leading game developers and hardware manufacturers. These dictate what new capabilities DirectX will get. That is smart. That means DirectX has market support. In the predecessor of DirectX they did not and it failed miserably because of it. When developing new formats they will do the same. In this case DVD publishers and hardware vendors covering that market will have had a say in the new format. MS does not want to invest in something that nobody wants to sell, market and produce.
XX
Reply #18 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:32 AM
Reply #18 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:32 AM
Whatever happens i hope there will be a standard for dvds.
Tech-Cat
Reply #19 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:39 AM
Reply #19 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:39 AM
I hope most of the major movie producers and other companies that produce programs for DVD refuse to work with or support Micorosoft on creating a new HDTV DVD format.
MadIce
Reply #20 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:11 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:11 PM
Microsoft created more standards for the PC than any other software house. Any good reason why that is bad?
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Reply #1 Monday, July 28, 2003 4:36 PM