Is Microsoft going to own the next generation DVD format?
Monday, July 28, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I think Microsoft is going to own the next generation DVD format. And I don’t say that as a Microsoft booster. I think it’s just the route that is going to make the most sense.
When I bought the new Terminator 2 DVD, the second DVD came with the full movie at 1080P (that’s P, not I) which is essentially super-duper High Definition TV. It was all in a collection of .WMV files and it all fit on a single DVD.
Moreover, with a computer with a DVD drive, I could watch this DVD on any screen – regular TV or the various other HDTV standards. It would just scale to whather and do so pretty seamlessly.
What I predict is that you’ll see new DVDs come with support for WMV files. Think about it, one DVD holding a 1080P (1080 lines of resolution) movie. Right now, most DVDs get filled up with a single 480P movie because they are so poorly compressed.
So Microsoft will end up owning the next generation format. This is a market Apple could have owned.
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Cavanaugh
Reply #22 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:28 PM
Reply #22 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:28 PM
Im just waiting for media center edition to work with my ato- all in wonder
MadIce
Reply #23 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:15 PM
Reply #23 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:15 PM
What gave you the impression that MS needs to be payed to use their format, Tech Cat? Maybe you are better informed than me.
Tech-Cat
Reply #24 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:21 PM
Reply #24 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:21 PM
If Microsoft gets a patent for HDTV DVD, then any company that makes an HDTV DVD Player will have to pay Microsoft. That cost is passed down to the consumer. The same goes for the HDTV DVD discs themselves. Microsoft could also set up the technology so that only Microsoft software can work with the DVDs. This means the player makers will have to purchase the software which again is a cost that is passed down to the consumers.
Tech-Cat
Reply #25 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:28 PM
Reply #25 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:28 PM
Microsoft could even go a step further and be the only producer of HDTV DVD Players just as they are the only producer of XBOXs. Game developers have to pay Microsoft for a liscense to release a game for XBOX. Microsoft could do the same to movie producers that want to release their movies on HDTV DVD.
MadIce
Reply #26 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:56 PM
Reply #26 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:56 PM
The HDTV DVD is not an actual new format. It is based on existing DVD patents not owned by MS. MS is licencing WindowsMedia technologies to chip manufacturers. These sell their chips to consumer good vendors. The license fees of the other technologies involved (which are not owned by MS) are much larger than the WindowsMedia license fee. BTW, the WindowsMedia license fee has also been reduced last year.
MadIce
Reply #27 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:04 PM
Reply #27 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:04 PM
It is common in the games industry to pay for the release of a console game. Whether it is XBOX, PS/2, Nintendo, etc. In fact MS is doing it relatively fair when compaired to the others. MS is one of the few companies which has a SDK that is available even before actual contracts are being signed. How do I know this? I am a games engine developer and have worked in the games industry for years.
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dendillon
Reply #28 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:47 PM
Reply #28 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:47 PM
Blu-ray, NOT Microsoft, is where the HiDef DVDs are going. Check these out: http://www.compoundsemiconductor.net/articles/news/6/2/35/1 (a site with some specs and info), http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,39020351,2131332,00.htm (an article about the April 2003 release of a Blu-ray Recorder), http://www.screendigest.com/NSMH-5CAAWM/Future%20of%20DVD%20-%20Chris%20Buma.pdf (a PDF document), http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/blu-ray/ (a review of a Sony Blu-ray Recorder), http://www.blu-ray.org (Blu-ray devoted site). There's more out there especially when you go to Sony, Philips, etc's websites.
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Tech-Cat
Reply #29 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:08 PM
Thank God. I think we can all breath a sigh of relief.
Reply #29 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:08 PM
| Blu-ray, NOT Microsoft, is where the HiDef DVDs are going. Check these out: Link (a site with some specs and info), Link (an article about the April 2003 release of a Blu-ray Recorder), Link (a PDF document), Link (a review of a Sony Blu-ray Recorder), Link (Blu-ray devoted site). There's more out there especially when you go to Sony, Philips, etc's websites. |
Thank God. I think we can all breath a sigh of relief.
MadIce
Reply #30 Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:43 AM
Agreed. There are more contenders. The fact that Sony and Philips are behind it makes it very viable that they will get enough market support. Microsoft's effortrs to enter that market will fail. But at the same time they have ATI and NVIDIA support for their WindowsMedia version on the PC. Maybe they hope that Corona will be their ticket to bring the format to the consumer good market. The next question is if MS will get enough content?
Reply #30 Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:43 AM
| Blu-ray, NOT Microsoft, is where the HiDef DVDs are going. |
Agreed. There are more contenders. The fact that Sony and Philips are behind it makes it very viable that they will get enough market support. Microsoft's effortrs to enter that market will fail. But at the same time they have ATI and NVIDIA support for their WindowsMedia version on the PC. Maybe they hope that Corona will be their ticket to bring the format to the consumer good market. The next question is if MS will get enough content?
MadIce
Reply #31 Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:47 AM
You don't think. You follow what you think is true. You never check facts. And when someone does (like dendillon) you continue your Holy Silly Quest against MS. If you want to bash Microsoft then do so in the flame wars you started in your own threads.
Reply #31 Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:47 AM
| Thank God. I think we can all breath a sigh of relief. |
You don't think. You follow what you think is true. You never check facts. And when someone does (like dendillon) you continue your Holy Silly Quest against MS. If you want to bash Microsoft then do so in the flame wars you started in your own threads.
Tech-Cat
Reply #33 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:09 AM
Reply #33 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:09 AM
I have every right to dislike MS as much as I want. I don't have to like MS taking over the DVD format if they do. I don't have to bow down to MS. I don't have to think Bill Gates is a saint.
Asimo
Reply #34 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:55 AM
Don't include me in your anti-MS paranoia (... WE can all breath...)
Reply #34 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:55 AM
| Thank God. I think we can all breath a sigh of relief. |
Don't include me in your anti-MS paranoia (... WE can all breath...)
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Reply #35 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:58 AM
Reply #35 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:58 AM
I have only recently returned to this community, and im tired of your non-stop bashing of microsoft adready. IMHO, microsoft really does know what most people want, and I'm one of happier customers. While I hope microsoft never becomes a monopoly ( never good, that ), microsoft is a really big company for a reason. They got a good biz sense and really do try to do what customers want.
Sure, microsoft has flaws. you, me and everyone else has flaws. anything ran by people is flawed too, that incudes even Holy Apple company ( holy, according to some of fastics(sp). Even worse, LINUX is flawed too!
In short, everything is flawed, but someone that complains and vent a lot of the hot air about tiny flaws in anything has a very, very large flaw indeed.
Sure, microsoft has flaws. you, me and everyone else has flaws. anything ran by people is flawed too, that incudes even Holy Apple company ( holy, according to some of fastics(sp). Even worse, LINUX is flawed too!
In short, everything is flawed, but someone that complains and vent a lot of the hot air about tiny flaws in anything has a very, very large flaw indeed.
Tech-Cat
Reply #36 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:05 PM
Reply #36 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:05 PM
It's not just the flaws present in Microsoft products that turns me against Microsoft, it's Microsoft's evil ways of doing business.
MadIce
Reply #37 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:14 PM
Reply #37 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:14 PM
Tech Cat: Again you have destroyed another thread. Go play in your thread, kid.
Tech-Cat
Reply #39 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:17 PM
Reply #39 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:17 PM
This is not hi-jacking. We are discussing Microsoft and DVD technology here. Right on topic. You seem to have the habbit of attacking people too quickly lately. Did you ever apologize to Zodiaq~ for what you did to him?
MadIce
Reply #40 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:21 PM
No. Wrong. We are discussing that. You are only here to bash MS.
MEDIC!
Reply #40 Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:21 PM
| This is not hi-jacking. We are discussing Microsoft and DVD technology here. Right on topic. You seem to have the habbit of attacking people too quickly lately. Did you ever apologize to Zodiaq~ for what you did to him? |
No. Wrong. We are discussing that. You are only here to bash MS.
MEDIC!
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Reply #21 Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:41 PM