Download copyright music = Fry your pc
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 by The DJ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
That's the suggestion made by the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at a Tuesday hearing on copyright abuse, reflecting a growing frustration in Congress over failure of the technology and entertainment industries to protect copyrights in a digital age.
The surprise statement by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, that he favors developing technology to remotely destroy computers used for illegal downloads represents a dramatic escalation in the increasingly contentious rhetoric over pirated music.
I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights.
If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions"
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http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/06/18/download.music.ap/
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Reply #42 Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:49 AM
and why would getting an IP address be illegal? you have the evidence of them taking the material.
they can make it like going onto Kazza themselves and locating areas where music files are and see who is downloading them.
Putting up fake music seems to have its problems to, I guess, but who would be able to stop them from doing that? They can download Kazza just like anyone else and put music on just like anyone else.
... to over simplistic maybe, I guess. I wonder about all of this. why can;t it just be settled? Just make it really availible for download, make the music better, avertise better, bring in newer products and incentives to buy CD's, stop over paying people, and simplify the deal making just so that an artist can put a song on the net she has to go though 25 signitures.
In the end they are so afraid of loosing revenue, that they are not really focusing on the solution. That's my theory.
Reply #43 Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:56 AM
There a couple issues with that, joe.
First, Kazza is not illegal. If you wanted, you could use it as a peer to peer network for exchanging your photos with your family. there are legal ways of using it. It is *how* people are using that which is illegal.
Second, there are entrapment laws and laws about invasion of privacy which prohibit entities from setting up ways to collect information to use against a person.
An IP address also does not prove who the person is. My husband and I use the same computer (have the same IP). I am sure that my daughter will use the computer. What happens if one of her friends are over and uses the computer? It's just like saying that you saw a car with a certain license plate at a robbery. you can say who owns the car, but that does not prove that they are the one who committed the crime.
Reply #44 Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:00 PM
I really wonder hw this will get settled. I am tired of the music indrustry and the RIAA excuses and I am also tired of people knowing they are stealing and making up reasons as to why its ok.
It is getting out of hand and the ones everybody want to 'protect' (the artist) is the one really getting the shaft.
Reply #45 Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:05 PM
Metallica (ironically) made a smart move with their new album to get you to buy it. Even though you don't pay more for it, it includes a DVD and a code to download extra stuff online.
Maybe if more bands did stuff like that, it would make people want to buy their albums.
I think that pirated music should be on the bottom of our list of social issues that we need to fix.
Reply #46 Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:08 PM
pfft
Reply #47 Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:42 PM
| And, having the government tracking IP addresses and what people do seems like a complete violation of privacy. We're talking a true big brother issue here. |
Don't you know that the government IS already tracking everyone? The technology they have at their disposal is at least 7 years ahead of what we have now. The whole big brother thing is real...
Reply #48 Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:48 PM
| Maybe if more bands did stuff like that, it would make people want to buy their albums. |
Stainds new one, 14 shades of grey, comes with a DVD as well BTW
And don't get me startes doomgaze on things we need to fix. That is why I hate those Children Christian Fund commercials... If we can not feed all of the kids starving in America why in hell would I want to feed a kid in another contry? Take care of yourself first then take care of others and don't trust anybody...
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Reply #50 Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:17 PM
oh and kona: so very little you know about what the government has young jedi hrm! (coughomnivoreissooolastyearcough)
but the fact is, they aren't tracking everyone... they're very specific in what they're looking for.. i hate conspiracy theories... they're all wrong
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Reply #51 Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:26 PM
| Actually it quite easy:1. shut down the main Kazaa website2. pull all the download links from places like zdnetAfter all that, only people with Kazaa now would be able to keep using it but No new members.... |
Reply #53 Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:49 PM
need we forget the opennap network that CAN'T be shut down?
Reply #54 Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:08 PM
I know of one computer that was remotely 'fried'...inescapably....by a certain 'big brother' type.....it's not a matter of it 'can' be done, but it 'has' been done.
There are two real 'issues' with this being implimented....firstly attacking people's computers in other countries could be construed as an 'act of war'....and secondly, there are more 'clever/inventive' minds amongst hackers outside the US Govt than inside so it is equally likely that a reciprocal 'zap' could end up in place....the Govt gets a few 'baddies' before it gets 'got' itself...
Reply #55 Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:16 PM
| I know of one computer that was remotely 'fried'...inescapably....by a certain 'big brother' type.....it's not a matter of it 'can' be done, but it 'has' been done. |
Proof please.
You may be a mod, but not immune from my questioning.
Reply #56 Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:45 PM
Doomgaze....sorry, but no....
I also know of a few virii that were capable of physical hardware damage....either pickling the Cmos chip often requiring a replacement MoBo [some chips being too difficult to obtain as replacement] or another causing erratic/frantic HD writing culminating in head-crashing and platter damage...drive ending up unreadable...
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Reply #41 Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:38 AM