Are people affraid to leave negative comments? And should the bar be raised?
Sunday, March 23, 2003 by Aaron W. | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I've been browsing the WindowBlinds skins for a while now, and have noticed that a good amount of them are very poorly done. The previews reveal graphical and alignment errors galore, and yet somehow they were still added to the collection. What struck me as odd were the comments on these skins. They were all positive about them as a parent is to her 2 year old child about his/her drawing of a house and a tree (which I can understand; he or she is 2 years old).
I have seen skins which almost appear to be farces. As if to step as close the line as possible before the Wincustomize skin-approving dudes just have to say "there's no way in heck this can be added to the WB skin library..."
So what is it? Are people afraid to tell these authors that they need to practice more, and ask them NOT to post every piece of work they create in the process?
I just find it strange that the skins aren't compared against the same standards as the wallpapers. I've had a few wallpapers rejected before, and I believed them to be far less unattractive than many of the skins which made it through the overly-porous sifter.
So does anyone agree that the bar should be raised for WB skins?
I have seen skins which almost appear to be farces. As if to step as close the line as possible before the Wincustomize skin-approving dudes just have to say "there's no way in heck this can be added to the WB skin library..."
So what is it? Are people afraid to tell these authors that they need to practice more, and ask them NOT to post every piece of work they create in the process?
I just find it strange that the skins aren't compared against the same standards as the wallpapers. I've had a few wallpapers rejected before, and I believed them to be far less unattractive than many of the skins which made it through the overly-porous sifter.
So does anyone agree that the bar should be raised for WB skins?
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IPlural
Reply #82 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:28 AM
Reply #82 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:28 AM
shouldn't laugh really, because it is the truth...
be constructive as you will, but be that and not negative, which is not a reflection upon those your speak of but actually a reflection upon your self in the end...
that pretty much goes with everything in life when dealing with or speaking of others...
anyway...
be constructive as you will, but be that and not negative, which is not a reflection upon those your speak of but actually a reflection upon your self in the end...
that pretty much goes with everything in life when dealing with or speaking of others...
anyway...
Jafo
Reply #83 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:12 AM
Reply #83 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:12 AM
What lPlural was trying to say in his own scatter-brained way was that a poor comment tells more about the commenter than it does about the subject...
scatter brained
kona0197
Reply #85 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:33 AM
Reply #85 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:33 AM
No one has really been very fond of my opinion but then none of you really know me. As far as my opinion as to this thread I would like to voice the following:
Yes I think people are afraid to leave negative comments. I have never left any comments about skins at all. But if I was as good as Jafo or BoXXi I would say something negative about a peice of worked if it SUCKED.
I think another aspect is the admins. On this site if you say anything negative one of three things happen. One, you get your head chewed of and handed to you. Two, you get a big warning to cease and desist. Three, you get exiled. So that means to some of us that we have to keep our mouth shut and smile in fear of being exiled. I have problems with a few people here. I don't say anything because of that fact.
Yes I think people are afraid to leave negative comments. I have never left any comments about skins at all. But if I was as good as Jafo or BoXXi I would say something negative about a peice of worked if it SUCKED.
I think another aspect is the admins. On this site if you say anything negative one of three things happen. One, you get your head chewed of and handed to you. Two, you get a big warning to cease and desist. Three, you get exiled. So that means to some of us that we have to keep our mouth shut and smile in fear of being exiled. I have problems with a few people here. I don't say anything because of that fact.
Jafo
Reply #86 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:55 AM
Reply #86 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:55 AM
Kona...we're talking about comments on works, not on people.
Personal attacks WILL get you exiled....Foul, abusive comments on works WILL get you exiled.
Negative opinion on just about anything won't raise an eyebrow.
I'm certain there is a prevalence of 'not wanting to upset the admins' with ANY form of critical comment on their [the admin's] works.
Clearly people are of the opinion that any such comment would come back to bite them as if the admins are vindictive.
We are not.....not at all.
The only people to actually get forcibly ejected from the site have generally been attacking other members, not admins....like Good old Scott Sproat [oops...mentioned his name...now I'll get more hate mail from him]...
Personal attacks WILL get you exiled....Foul, abusive comments on works WILL get you exiled.
Negative opinion on just about anything won't raise an eyebrow.
I'm certain there is a prevalence of 'not wanting to upset the admins' with ANY form of critical comment on their [the admin's] works.
Clearly people are of the opinion that any such comment would come back to bite them as if the admins are vindictive.
We are not.....not at all.
The only people to actually get forcibly ejected from the site have generally been attacking other members, not admins....like Good old Scott Sproat [oops...mentioned his name...now I'll get more hate mail from him]...
kona0197
Reply #87 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:59 AM
Reply #87 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:59 AM
You forgot badmouthing the whole site in general like that girl did. Wait a minute she isn't exiled. I don't believe I have ever attacked anyone.
Hate mail sucks.
Hate mail sucks.
kona0197
Reply #88 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:00 AM
Reply #88 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:00 AM
But Jafo, I know Im on your list of those you are watching. Thats OK. I'll never give the admins a reason to exile me. Thats why I quit posting on the iraq thing.
vizo
Reply #89 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:04 AM
Reply #89 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:04 AM
Isn't WindowBlinds a 'work'? Seems like Delicious had a comment in another thread about the shortcomings of WB 4 beta and she caught h*ll about it (even though it was apparently true). Is WB considered a 'person'?
kona0197
Reply #90 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:06 AM
Reply #90 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:06 AM
Funny you should mention it. I seem to catch H**l at the time. >
Jafo
Reply #91 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:11 AM
Reply #91 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:11 AM
vizo...that 'situation' has a history.
Sometimes allegedly 'innocent' remarks are as beneficial as 'when in doubt - format c:'.
It'd be nice [euphoric, even] if help or assistance didn't come with a subtext, that's all...
Sometimes allegedly 'innocent' remarks are as beneficial as 'when in doubt - format c:'.
It'd be nice [euphoric, even] if help or assistance didn't come with a subtext, that's all...
vizo
Reply #92 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:36 AM
Reply #92 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:36 AM
Point taken. I guess 'bias' has a firm foothold in society after all.
IPlural
Reply #93 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:22 AM
Reply #93 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:22 AM
you know I have child alters and some teens and two adults that really screw me up on this board sometimes with comments and such. Not an excuse in the least, I know this about myself and should have a grip on it or I shouldn't logon the board. Whom ever it is from my system in the end it *is* me and no one else.
But for the life of me I can not figure out why it is that people feel so oppressed and still want to login?
It is not as if anyone is swapping spit, it is not as if anyone is paying anyone else off to do as they please.
I do know that I can read only so many times about how negative I might get and blame it on others, before I have to wake up to the fact that I need to take a look at myself and see what it is about me that I can do to change things.
anyway...
Life is like a box of chocolates, you open the sucker up and leave it in the fridge only to find the next time you go to pick one out, some rat fink has tasted each one and put them back.
Kevin and Slice do that all the time...
But for the life of me I can not figure out why it is that people feel so oppressed and still want to login?
It is not as if anyone is swapping spit, it is not as if anyone is paying anyone else off to do as they please.
I do know that I can read only so many times about how negative I might get and blame it on others, before I have to wake up to the fact that I need to take a look at myself and see what it is about me that I can do to change things.
anyway...
Life is like a box of chocolates, you open the sucker up and leave it in the fridge only to find the next time you go to pick one out, some rat fink has tasted each one and put them back.
Kevin and Slice do that all the time...
joetheblow
Reply #95 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:39 PM
Reply #95 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:39 PM
IPlural, does that mean there will be a show down soon?
I have been watching the messageboard too, and I do believe there will be a show down... soon.
joetheblow gets his popcorn and waits...
FLAME ON!!!
I have been watching the messageboard too, and I do believe there will be a show down... soon.
joetheblow gets his popcorn and waits...
FLAME ON!!!
IPlural
Reply #96 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:58 PM
Reply #96 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:58 PM
I hope not, that would really really suck...
then again if you mean with me? then no, that I will make sure does not hapen on the board. If it started to I would expect Jafo, or one of the others to kill my access till I had taken care of it... but like I said, nope not me/us
then again if you mean with me? then no, that I will make sure does not hapen on the board. If it started to I would expect Jafo, or one of the others to kill my access till I had taken care of it... but like I said, nope not me/us
Aaron W.
Reply #99 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:41 PM
Reply #99 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:41 PM
100th post.
I just had to be the one to do that. My first thread and it's gone to #100... Though ~20 or so seem to be odd little messages with no apparent meaning
Meh. 100 is 100. Post on.
I just had to be the one to do that. My first thread and it's gone to #100... Though ~20 or so seem to be odd little messages with no apparent meaning
Meh. 100 is 100. Post on.
JamMeister33
Reply #100 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:24 PM
Reply #100 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:24 PM
#800 by JamMeister33 - 3/22/2003 10:30:24 PM
and now for number 800, thank you very much.....
Yeh, baby.... now you're talkin'.....hehe....
and now for number 800, thank you very much.....
Yeh, baby.... now you're talkin'.....hehe....
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Reply #81 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:39 AM
gonna end up on the short list with me if you keep it up