Good Vs. Evil
Tuesday, March 4, 2003 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Who wins? Why? Is it really winning if the outcome is already settled?
More on this later.
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IPlural
Reply #82 Sunday, March 9, 2003 3:14 AM
Reply #82 Sunday, March 9, 2003 3:14 AM
perspective, there are not any absolutes, beyond personal perspective really...
and to have a difinitive distinction of good or evil, you have to have an absolute to deal with it... the world and humanity, reasoning are to dynamic and too subjective for there to be anything close enough to an aboslute...
You turn on your light swtich, will the light come on, probably, but it might burn out or the power might be off or it might blow every breaker in the house.
all they way down to religion, there are not any absolutes, someone can take upon them self and Idea as being an absolute, but until it is proven without a doubt to be the only possible solution, outcome, meaning held by, then it can never be said there is anything near such a thing as an absolute...
Relitivity dicates that there will be an equal or great reaction to any action, I would take it a step further and apply the same modle to non-action also...
Energy in its purest form never disapates it only transforms...
if you are born you spend then reast of your life from your first breath, dying.
So if you live you will die, and from the looks of it you will spend a life time paying taxes
I dun no...
good - evil, positive - negative... perception
IPlural is brain dead tonight, sorry about rambling....
gonna lurk...
and to have a difinitive distinction of good or evil, you have to have an absolute to deal with it... the world and humanity, reasoning are to dynamic and too subjective for there to be anything close enough to an aboslute...
You turn on your light swtich, will the light come on, probably, but it might burn out or the power might be off or it might blow every breaker in the house.
all they way down to religion, there are not any absolutes, someone can take upon them self and Idea as being an absolute, but until it is proven without a doubt to be the only possible solution, outcome, meaning held by, then it can never be said there is anything near such a thing as an absolute...
Relitivity dicates that there will be an equal or great reaction to any action, I would take it a step further and apply the same modle to non-action also...
Energy in its purest form never disapates it only transforms...
if you are born you spend then reast of your life from your first breath, dying.
So if you live you will die, and from the looks of it you will spend a life time paying taxes
I dun no...
good - evil, positive - negative... perception
IPlural is brain dead tonight, sorry about rambling....
gonna lurk...
sorry, me chease head.
@shu
Reply #86 Sunday, March 9, 2003 5:21 AM
Reply #86 Sunday, March 9, 2003 5:21 AM
joetheblow, You have got the physics of colours all wrong. It is the other way round. If you rotate all the colours fast, they will appear as a white blur... I think this might be Nature's way of telling us that all of us are essentially the same, we come of the same Being, irrespective of our caste, creed, colour or religion...
Energy remains constant.. that's true IP+ but entropy, the very essence of energy is always on the increase. Whatever we do, whatever actions we perform, lead to an irreversible increase in entropy. Maybe, that is like Life itself. Our actions are constant, remain constant and dissipate in different forms. But as they are irreversible, their 'entropy', i.e. their 'Karma': good or bad, keeps on increasing and accumulating.
I think 'Good' and 'Evil' must be judged not by actions alone, but their consequences, their reactions, the response they elicit.
Energy remains constant.. that's true IP+ but entropy, the very essence of energy is always on the increase. Whatever we do, whatever actions we perform, lead to an irreversible increase in entropy. Maybe, that is like Life itself. Our actions are constant, remain constant and dissipate in different forms. But as they are irreversible, their 'entropy', i.e. their 'Karma': good or bad, keeps on increasing and accumulating.
I think 'Good' and 'Evil' must be judged not by actions alone, but their consequences, their reactions, the response they elicit.
Lecrayon
Reply #87 Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:14 AM
Reply #87 Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:14 AM
Food is good, hunger is evil. Sharing food is good, exploiting it is evil. The human being is not capable of determining in a logical way what is good and what is evil. They do not learn from history, they learn from their actions and relevant consequences. Every generation seem to have the necessity to find its own values which are based on old values, yet aren't very good in applying it, because they want to invent them themselves. Hunger makes humans hunt and a hunting human being is the most dangerous preditor ever existed on earth.
mossedmoon
Reply #88 Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:28 AM
Reply #88 Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:28 AM
Yeeeeesh! Good and Evil? The oppisites on the same coin? Yin Yang? Moderation and Abuse? Karma (what goes around comes around)? Man and Woman? Can't have one without the other. Ye, though I walk through the valley of the message board...
WOM
Reply #90 Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:43 AM
Reply #90 Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:43 AM
Good/evil, right or wrong. Where you were born. What religion or no religion. Upbringing, social status, etc etc. All this does have some bearing on your beliefs. No black or white, right or wrong, yes or no, just a lot of grey. Leading all 87 of these answers left me with a question. Why does everyone have a problem with people ripping them off or wanting there serial number to the software? Could be where that person was born or his religion or upbringing, there's nothing wrong with this. It's not evil, bad or wrong. Who am I to force my way onto someone else. Do I believe in stealing, no. Is it black or white, yes, no grey. Most of this thread doesn't make for good reading. To much BS or wishy washy.
White_Moth
Reply #91 Sunday, March 9, 2003 11:31 AM
Reply #91 Sunday, March 9, 2003 11:31 AM
I have seen both Good and Evil in the stark Light of GOD.
Then I had to make a choice.
It was a no brainer.
Then I had to make a choice.
It was a no brainer.
White_Moth
Reply #92 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:31 PM
Reply #92 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:31 PM
I hope no one else has to see such a thing.
I barely made it out alive!
I barely made it out alive!
Doreen
Reply #93 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:45 PM
Reply #93 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:45 PM
WOM "I" actually believe there is black or white, right or wrong, yes or no, but the grey area is where "we" live cuz it's just easier that way...
(my opinion of course) hehe
(my opinion of course) hehe
Doreen
Reply #94 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:48 PM
Reply #94 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:48 PM
hehe and never mind me is a slow reader and seen the end of your post and you see it the same way it seems? but since I have no edit button on this site my post is stuck there!
Doreen
Reply #95 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:50 PM
Reply #95 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:50 PM
also I've been living in the grey area myself lately so ignore me! hehe
WOM
Reply #96 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:50 PM
Reply #96 Sunday, March 9, 2003 12:50 PM
Doreen, yes there is grey area. Its that place where we justify what we did was right. Like abortion. Is it right or wrong. Did we kill someone or didn't we. Grey area. Can we justify it or not in our mind.
Doreen
Reply #98 Sunday, March 9, 2003 1:03 PM
Reply #98 Sunday, March 9, 2003 1:03 PM
okay well I really hate speaking about this in public but oh well I'm feeling brave today! hehe
God is not Audible when he speaks. you do not "hear" him Audibly but you feel his presence and his words are spoken in a way undescribable by a human. but if you listen you can hear him (yeah that don't make sense but I never do) hehe!
I do believe we have (1) Heavenly Father though we are mixed up on what to call him...
God is not Audible when he speaks. you do not "hear" him Audibly but you feel his presence and his words are spoken in a way undescribable by a human. but if you listen you can hear him (yeah that don't make sense but I never do) hehe!
I do believe we have (1) Heavenly Father though we are mixed up on what to call him...
Doreen
Reply #100 Sunday, March 9, 2003 1:19 PM
Reply #100 Sunday, March 9, 2003 1:19 PM
hehe wise guy! well he's been called worser things...
anyways me stays out of this thread now I don't know why I worry about posting that, everyone thinks I'm crazy anyways... hehe
anyways me stays out of this thread now I don't know why I worry about posting that, everyone thinks I'm crazy anyways... hehe
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Reply #81 Sunday, March 9, 2003 3:04 AM
I used to be a first aid responer and the first thing you do is make sure the are is safe. If I am defending myself or my family I have to eliminate the threat.
it gets confusing when I perive a threat to myself when its "hey, i want to buy that car" and if I don't get it I kill. The car is really nice you know. It will increase my status and earning power so I can feel safe.
As for Good and Evil... I am seriously wondering if it is just a property of this Universe. We do not have a full grasp on what it is. There will always be a 'gray' area because 44% bad and 56% good produces a sort of 'gray'. I am not sure but when black and white is spun quickly does it not product many colors to the eye?