Default 6 Ratings
Tuesday, February 18, 2003 by citats | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have read in the past that if a skin is not actually rated. It receives a 6 rating...
Is this so?
and if so, is it possible to just leave the skin as unrated instead of the default 6. Or would that mess with the way downloads are controlled? I know that unregistered users can only download an 8 or higher.
Although some users don't care about the ratings and say they are over rated...
Many users, use these ratings to help them find skins that are perceived as a notch above. 
what do you think?
Is this so?
and if so, is it possible to just leave the skin as unrated instead of the default 6. Or would that mess with the way downloads are controlled? I know that unregistered users can only download an 8 or higher.
Although some users don't care about the ratings and say they are over rated...
Many users, use these ratings to help them find skins that are perceived as a notch above. 
what do you think?
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JamMeister33
Reply #25 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:50 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:50 PM
Unless there is an obvious problem with your thumbnail there is no need to push the button...
Of course, I pushed it anyway and if I remember correctly.....nothing happened...
Of course, I pushed it anyway and if I remember correctly.....nothing happened...
paxx
Reply #26 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:50 PM
Reply #26 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:50 PM
I think it fixes the thumnails. Not sure though. Just a guess. 
BoXXi
Reply #27 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:01 PM
Reply #27 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:01 PM
I believe that when you hit the "Fix Thumbnails" button it sends an e-mail to T-Man that tells him there is a problem with the sizing of the thumbnail image of your preview.
T-Man has to check every instance of the button being pressed and if he finds there is nothing wrong with your thumbnail you will most likely receive the honorific "Exiled" in front of your user name.
Of course, none of the above may be true.............but do you want to risk the wrath of a very busy site coder?
T-Man has to check every instance of the button being pressed and if he finds there is nothing wrong with your thumbnail you will most likely receive the honorific "Exiled" in front of your user name.
Of course, none of the above may be true.............but do you want to risk the wrath of a very busy site coder?
JamMeister33
Reply #28 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:03 PM
Reply #28 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:03 PM
Ouch, and it hurts baby.................. 
Iben
Reply #29 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:59 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:59 PM
Thanks Wizop BoXXi I was just curios I won't press the button.
Jafo
Reply #30 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:52 AM
Reply #30 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:52 AM
Iben...it really won't bite...
I like getting on the chat boxes at sites like Skinbase, press the button that says 'chat' and post "what does this button do?"
Strangely, no-one ever answered...
I like getting on the chat boxes at sites like Skinbase, press the button that says 'chat' and post "what does this button do?"
Strangely, no-one ever answered...
Delicious
Reply #31 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:49 AM
Reply #31 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:49 AM
Reality Check!
Every skin I have uploaded has received a 6 rating with exception to my last one which got an 8 rating. (now down to 5
) I know the moderation has changed recently because the only skin that got a rating other than 6 was accompanied by and email which I never got before.
My status is not a journeyman so auto 6 doesn't apply but might be the name of my next skin, Auto 6.
I emailed a moderator who would remain nameless except BoXXi came forward. I asked why I got a 6 rating all the time and was told that the moderators are too busy to look at every skin and the server gives the rating. THe email went on to say only exceptional skins get an actual scrutiny. There was no mistake in understanding what the email said.
I am unfamiliar with the moderation tools so I can't comment on how the auto thingy works. I do know that 6 was getting used way too much and I had to find out why and that was the answer I got.
Now if that is not the correct answer this week, what is the answer to every skin getting a 6 rating.
I know my skins have gotten better from the first one (6 rating) to the second to last one (6 rating) so the answer could not be they are in actuality all mediocre skins.
The funny thing is I really don't care about ratings of skins. What troubles me and is a pet peeve of mine is fairness. I am not the only one that is trouble by what they see when they upload a piece of work so there is a wrinkle in the ratings system that needs to be ironed out. Just think, why an auto 6 and not an auto 5. That in itself tells oodles about the protocol of the rating system.
Every skin I have uploaded has received a 6 rating with exception to my last one which got an 8 rating. (now down to 5
) I know the moderation has changed recently because the only skin that got a rating other than 6 was accompanied by and email which I never got before.My status is not a journeyman so auto 6 doesn't apply but might be the name of my next skin, Auto 6.
I emailed a moderator who would remain nameless except BoXXi came forward. I asked why I got a 6 rating all the time and was told that the moderators are too busy to look at every skin and the server gives the rating. THe email went on to say only exceptional skins get an actual scrutiny. There was no mistake in understanding what the email said.
I am unfamiliar with the moderation tools so I can't comment on how the auto thingy works. I do know that 6 was getting used way too much and I had to find out why and that was the answer I got.
Now if that is not the correct answer this week, what is the answer to every skin getting a 6 rating.
I know my skins have gotten better from the first one (6 rating) to the second to last one (6 rating) so the answer could not be they are in actuality all mediocre skins.
The funny thing is I really don't care about ratings of skins. What troubles me and is a pet peeve of mine is fairness. I am not the only one that is trouble by what they see when they upload a piece of work so there is a wrinkle in the ratings system that needs to be ironed out. Just think, why an auto 6 and not an auto 5. That in itself tells oodles about the protocol of the rating system.
Jafo
Reply #32 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:15 AM
Reply #32 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:15 AM
Delicious....here is your 'ratings' breakdown....without names, of course, although the FIRST one on each line is the admin one you maintain is a '6'.
Sorry to have to correct you, but you drag up the topic at every opportunity.
These are in 'order' as displayed...top to bottom.
Note the 'clear repetition' of an Admin's '6'...
5 10 2 5 1
8 8 6 10 9 5 10
7 10 8 4
6 8 10
5 7 10
7 3 8 10 5
6 7
5
6 6 6 7
9 10 10 7
6
6 10
4 10 9 6 8
8 10 4
10 10 6 5
9 10 5
7
8 8
7
Clearly there is a wide range of 'ratings' based on individual preferences/criteria. That's expected...and happens in gymnastics at the Olympics...[why the Ruskie judge rates the Ruskie higher]...with a larger 'selection' of ratings they tend to average out at a mean that reflects public perception of the work itself.
Now try averages compared with the Admin rating and see whether the latter is biased or opinionated beyond the public opinion.
You work it out.....I couldn't be fussed...but I'm betting there's a reasonable correlation...
Sorry to have to correct you, but you drag up the topic at every opportunity.
These are in 'order' as displayed...top to bottom.
Note the 'clear repetition' of an Admin's '6'...
5 10 2 5 1
8 8 6 10 9 5 10
7 10 8 4
6 8 10
5 7 10
7 3 8 10 5
6 7
5
6 6 6 7
9 10 10 7
6
6 10
4 10 9 6 8
8 10 4
10 10 6 5
9 10 5
7
8 8
7
Clearly there is a wide range of 'ratings' based on individual preferences/criteria. That's expected...and happens in gymnastics at the Olympics...[why the Ruskie judge rates the Ruskie higher]...with a larger 'selection' of ratings they tend to average out at a mean that reflects public perception of the work itself.
Now try averages compared with the Admin rating and see whether the latter is biased or opinionated beyond the public opinion.
You work it out.....I couldn't be fussed...but I'm betting there's a reasonable correlation...
HuronJoe
Reply #33 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:21 AM
Reply #33 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:21 AM
IMHO....I've noticed that since I try to read as many post's or comments that I can (no one could read them all) at any rate here is my question or statement: It is interesting to note that as people become more adapt at creating and submitting they become more and more "touchy" (for lack of a better word). I tend to think that maybe it is in the "Nature" of an "Artist" to be somewhat tempermental. Either that or perhaps that it is true that "Familarity breeds contempt"
Please forgive my spelling because it is not my strongest suit. I'm just curious if anyone else cares to comment along these lines?
Please forgive my spelling because it is not my strongest suit. I'm just curious if anyone else cares to comment along these lines?
Jafo
Reply #34 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:30 AM
Reply #34 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:30 AM
HuronJoe...there's a little bit of 'tedium of repetition' when people who have been involved for a long time find they are re-hashing the same old explanations to all-comers as they arrive.
That, and the issue of 'ego' versus 'talent' and the feeling that any criticism/rejection, no matter how moderate is seen as a personal attack on their man-hood [or female equivalent].
'Familiarity' is not the same as 'friendship'.
A friend can tell you that you are an asshole and you 'may' even agree. A familiar acquaintance calls you a little 'odd' and you'll jump down their throat...
That, and the issue of 'ego' versus 'talent' and the feeling that any criticism/rejection, no matter how moderate is seen as a personal attack on their man-hood [or female equivalent].
'Familiarity' is not the same as 'friendship'.
A friend can tell you that you are an asshole and you 'may' even agree. A familiar acquaintance calls you a little 'odd' and you'll jump down their throat...
HuronJoe
Reply #35 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:38 AM
Reply #35 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:38 AM
Thanks for the reply Jafo, you of course said what I was trying to say, but much better. Also looking at all the things you must have to review must take a LOT of patience. At least all I have to do is read the reactions to moderators input (or output?)
Delicious
Reply #36 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:46 AM
Reply #36 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:46 AM
I would like to comment HuronJoe,
Imagine working at a job for 6 years and never getting a raise. While at this job you notice co workers brown noseing the boss and get raises left and right that do the exact same work you do and sometimes inferior work.
Would you slip a little vaseline on your nose to stick up the bosses butt, sit back and say such is life, or would you voice your concerns? Leaving is not an option because there is no where to go to.
Imagine working at a job for 6 years and never getting a raise. While at this job you notice co workers brown noseing the boss and get raises left and right that do the exact same work you do and sometimes inferior work.
Would you slip a little vaseline on your nose to stick up the bosses butt, sit back and say such is life, or would you voice your concerns? Leaving is not an option because there is no where to go to.
Jafo
Reply #37 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:53 AM
Reply #37 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:53 AM
Delicious...WILL YOU READ POST #32?
I'm famous for my patience...but even mine gets 'thin'....just be fair for once....
I'm famous for my patience...but even mine gets 'thin'....just be fair for once....
Delicious
Reply #38 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:54 AM
Reply #38 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:54 AM
Forgot to comment on my ratings. I don't understand how this is broken down.
5 10 2 5 1
I am assuming that now I should have a skin rating of 1 in the library. Is that right? I don't see all those numbers. All I see is the current and there is no 1 rating.
5 10 2 5 1
I am assuming that now I should have a skin rating of 1 in the library. Is that right? I don't see all those numbers. All I see is the current and there is no 1 rating.
Delicious
Reply #39 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:56 AM
Reply #39 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:56 AM
Delicious puts a force field around the exile button so Jafo don't push it.
Jafo
Reply #40 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:00 AM
Reply #40 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:00 AM
add all the numbers in each row and divide by how many numbers there are...you'll get the average which is what you see on your skin.
In each row, the FIRST number is what was given to it by the admins....the ones after it are by the public.
FYI, all those '10s' were by four people, and 3 of them only each gave one....means your numbers appear to be 'unnaturally inflated', if anything....
In each row, the FIRST number is what was given to it by the admins....the ones after it are by the public.
FYI, all those '10s' were by four people, and 3 of them only each gave one....means your numbers appear to be 'unnaturally inflated', if anything....
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Reply #21 Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:38 PM
All clear now?