Jafo's OK PC Build of 2015
Tuesday, February 3, 2015 by Jafo | Discussion: Personal Computing
Following on with ID's thread re new PC build.... and I'd only hijacked Starkers' one to describe what I'd been doing to date...so here's my own thread with the ins and outs of what's what.
My old machine [also home-grown] was a [then] reasonably OK machine....
Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]
Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU
ASUS P6T-se X58 i7 MoBo
Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU
12G OCZ Triple [6x2G] PC12800 DDR3 Gold Ram
CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler
Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks [x2][black]
1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [redundancy backup/data]
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [x2]
500G WD Sata2 7200 HD [game backups]
250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [secondary/alternate OS installs in racks]
240G SanDisk SDSSDX240GG25 [for OS]
ACR-105 Multi card reader
LG Sata DVD-RW [x2][black]
ASUS GTX590 3GB GPU
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM.
That was its final specs...having doubled the ram from 6 and adding a 'faster' GPU.
The stumbling block was really 'just' the CPU. For FSX it's a case of 'the faster the better' - so just before Xmas I started researching....
More to come...![]()
Reply #142 Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:00 AM
Nope... Win 7 still has 'issues' with an OS being on a M.2 drive.
Reply #143 Sunday, October 4, 2015 7:48 AM
Mhh still no fix from ASUS?
I have read a lot of topics that this is MOBO related.
So i have to ask did you flash your Bios?
1. Changed SATA mode to AHCI in PCH Storage Configuration
2. SATA Support for All Devices
3. Enable CSM [BOOT]
4. Enable Launch PXE OpROM [BOOT]
(5) For some reason i had to set fast boot to disabled.
Dont ask me why.
Boot from Storage Devices: Legacy Only
Boot from Network Devices: Legacy Only
Reply #144 Monday, October 5, 2015 7:34 PM
Looks like something fundamentally is screwed....most likely with Comodo IS ... as that's not showing up at all.
I had left it with the notification icon for Win 10 upgrade...and assume it's been downloading in the background [and using me as a torrent mule] as it'll be the 4th machine I move to Win 10 [eventually].
Looks like I'm spending the next few days sorting out an OS that's been live [as my primary] since 2009 - 6 years of abuse at the hands of an 'expert' [at abuse].
Should be 'entertaining'.....define 'entertaining'....oh, god we're all gonna die? ...
Wasn't Comodo....but more likely background 'mess' with Win10. It'd the only machine I even let the notification upgrade icon onto. No surprise it's also the only machine having issues...![]()
Reply #145 Monday, October 5, 2015 7:36 PM
Mhh still no fix from ASUS?
I have read a lot of topics that this is MOBO related.
So i have to ask did you flash your Bios?
1. Changed SATA mode to AHCI in PCH Storage Configuration
2. SATA Support for All Devices
3. Enable CSM [BOOT]
4. Enable Launch PXE OpROM [BOOT]
(5) For some reason i had to set fast boot to disabled.
Dont ask me why.
Boot from Storage Devices: Legacy Only
Boot from Network Devices: Legacy Only
There may yet be a suitable bios update but I'm not fazed with the odd booting...I only shutdown the machine twice a year...sometimes thrice....![]()
Reply #146 Tuesday, October 6, 2015 4:11 PM
i know, still i believe deep down you have a grudge against the failure, same as i would´ve
Reply #147 Wednesday, October 7, 2015 2:16 AM
i know, still i believe deep down you have a grudge against the failure, same as i would´ve
Same here, I hate it when things don't work as they're supposed to/intended. Like the grudge I had against Fences yesterday. There I was, happily moving things around a couple of open folders I had, when lo and behold, this 'thing' pops up on my screen. It looks familiar.... like a fence/folder portal... but I didn't create it. Well not of my own volition anyway.
And do you think I could get rid of it - read mental blank here! I tried left and right clicking without success, then I figured a reboot might get rid of it. Nope, that didn't work, either. Damned fechen thing, had no title and nothing in it. AND I didn't fechen create it! I was bewildered and dumbfounded! How the fech was I gonna get rid of this fechen thing.... occupying a slice of real estate smack dab in the centre of my screen?
Ah! Right click on the desktop, how much it revealed in a time of dilemma... hehe. In clicking the 'View' tab I noticed 'Lock Fences' was ticked, Ah, the light dawned on me and the dreaded empty fence was no more.... but what a kerfuffle trying to get rid of it. Hmmm, the things a lack of sleep will do to a person!
Speaking of grudges, I have one against the world. It owes me so much, yet I have received so little.
Reply #148 Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:58 AM
With the recent BSODs and image restore via Acronis I'm pretty sure it was an external card reader as the 'cause' of the crashes was a USB3 driver.
It's all up and running smooth as...
...and has the latest 'BIOS' Flash... though no difference to the booting.
I am yet to try disabling fastboot...to see what happens...but all the other settings are as above...always were.
On a different note...Terry's machine was getting annoying [slow] - [it's the machine listed in the OP]...so is now running Win10.
That's the 4th machine here.
IE likes to crash ...and the logon screen doesn't draw correctly, and a lot of system images are not showing as they should.
Only proggy I needed to pull off was Deskscapes.
I'll need a few more days tinkering before I call it a 'success' ...![]()
Reply #149 Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:03 AM

Posted this pic on another thread...thought I'd stick it here too ...to remind me what could be something to tinker with.
It's a cheapie ... about 1/8 the cost of the 'beast' - as cases go it's cheaper than the last 3 machines [the other 2 were Lian Li].
Open plan architecture....sort of the opposite of the Level 10, yet from the same manufacturer...![]()
Reply #150 Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:07 AM
You used some very nice hardware. I was going to recommend you upgrade those hard drives because the 250 and 500 GB will be so slow compared to a modern 7200 rpm drive. But you already got some new but slow 5400 rpm drives
.
In my Gaming pc use the following storage
1: 250 GB SSD for OS, program files and personal data
2: 2x 1 TB Seagate Desktop HDD in raid0 (reaches 400 MB/s+ sequentially, very useful while installing) for games
3: 1x 3 TB Seagate Desktop HDD for video recording and big data I need locally
All other drives I put in a self build NAS and I have not regretted it since. I can really recommend moving stuff like your gaming backups to another machine. I literally did just that: take out the drive and move it to a NAS. A basic Gbit connection is good for 130 MB/s so with those 5400 rpm WD Green drives you will hardly notice they are not local. You can even mount them and use them like a normal drive if you wish.
edit: Can't reply anymore so I will do an edit.
The M2 SSD is awesome. But the PC still has these drives right?
3TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [G + D] [hotswap] $ 128
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [I] [hotswap] $ 99
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [J] [hotswap] $ 99
I recommended moving those to a separate NAS
. I hated it when I went to "computer" and they all started spinning up. I went from 6 disks to 3. The Raid 0 I use to fit my 980 GB of installed games. Let's hope 1 TB NVME SSD's become affordable soon ^^.
Reply #151 Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:16 AM
MagistarNL ....the specs in the OP are the old computer that dates back 6 or 7 years.
The current one has the OS [and main games] on a M.2x4 drive.... considerably faster than any 7200rpm platter...or almost all SSDs currently...![]()
See comment #4 ...![]()
Reply #152 Thursday, October 29, 2015 1:35 PM
I have run into problems of a similar nature with almost every card reader I have ever used, both internal and external. I went through three internal units in one year once, all on the same rig. Now I just leave the card in the device using it and connect/access it via a usb cable and keep my fingers crossed.
Reply #153 Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:05 PM
edit: Can't reply anymore so I will do an edit.
The M2 SSD is awesome. But the PC still has these drives right?
3TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [G + D] [hotswap] $ 128
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [I] [hotswap] $ 99
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [J] [hotswap] $ 99
I recommended moving those to a separate NAS . I hated it when I went to "computer" and they all started spinning up. I went from 6 disks to 3. The Raid 0 I use to fit my 980 GB of installed games. Let's hope 1 TB NVME SSD's become affordable soon
True re the platters spinning up.... but they're mostly backup drives without frequent accessing. Between the 3 SSDs there's no need to be diving into the platters in the midst of 'doing stuff'...![]()
Reply #154 Thursday, October 29, 2015 7:17 PM
On a different note...Terry's machine was getting annoying [slow] - [it's the machine listed in the OP]...so is now running Win10.
That's the 4th machine here.
IE likes to crash ...and the logon screen doesn't draw correctly, and a lot of system images are not showing as they should.
Only proggy I needed to pull off was Deskscapes.
I'll need a few more days tinkering before I call it a 'success' ...
Day 2 of configuring 10 to behave.
IE still crashes ....Edge doesn't show imported favourites.
Chrome is fine [typical].
Added OD manager and Start10....uninstalled the rest of SD's stuff ie. WB7 [even that original SDC] except fences and Object Dock.
There's an update that supposedly fixes the IE crash ....am checking if it helps.
Definitely graphic anomalies with the login...click on a user and you get squirly text [place holding]...so arguably the GUI is TRUE SHIT.
The password input is still rubbish and does not draw.
It's very much NOT a 'clean install' so some crap is expected.
I wasn't disappointed...![]()
Reply #156 Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:09 PM
Looks like much of it is down to the NVidia drivers....and getting one to install is the fun part.
Even when it claims to have 'failed' things improve...but reboot and it's still NQR.
So far, various 'fixes' on the net haven't.
Reply #157 Friday, October 30, 2015 2:01 AM
See! I told you Win 10 is a problematic pig.
And still you went ahead and installed it on Terry's machine... not to mention a couple of your own.
Shame on you... giving your poor wife a broken OS like that. In this day and age that's grounds for sleeping on the couch... and only then because the kennel is full.
Then there have been those wives who have invited the dog inside.... so the hubby can take his rightful place in the doghouse... and installing 'piggy' Win 10 on a wife's PC probably is a 'doghouse crime' in the eyes of many wives... given its shite UI and built in spy features which doom users to be presented with all that 'wonderful' advertising on the multi-coloured Start Menu that looks like a reject from a Fisher Price factory.
Seriously, my sister has Win 10 on her laptop and she hasn't had any reacl technical issues with it thus far. However, having said that, she just doesn't like it and wants to revert back to Win 8.1. I told her that she should be able to do that via the 'recovery drive' that's still got 8.1 on it, but being scared to meddle with things she's waiting until we next meet so that I can do it.
One of her pet hates is the "coat of many colours" start menu... AND the placement of ads within. I fully understand that! I wouldn't tolerate them, either. Yes, yes, Start10 gets rid of all that, but there is too much else wrong with Win 10 in its current form for me to install it on any of my rigs MS would have to perform a major rewrite to completely remove those core components that send personal data back to Redmond. Failing that, I'll stick with 8.1 until no longer viable, and/or move over to Ubuntu, Mint or Robolinux, which natively installs Windows based proggies, so I read somewhere.
Or..... I could wait for Win 12.
Reply #159 Friday, October 30, 2015 9:15 AM
starkers...the 'one' issue is with the NVidia driver for 10. It'll get fixed, and isn't a deal breaker. Now, Vista's [for me] was also one driver...the dsl modem's ...and without that the OS couldn't get online to fix itself...so it was as useless as tits on a bull.
By 7 the lack of drivers was resolved.
ALL new OS's have issues, and 8 was a bigger dog than 10, but you won't agree...because you've never used 10 and are thus somewhere between gullible and biased.
Terry's machine now on 10 is THE guinea pig for mine...they are OS system/program-wise identical other than the new one having newer hardware. Heck, even the OS keys are identical.
Far more than I imagined works just fine.... and it's very much NOT a virgin install.
The cause of the issue is the 'mandatory' Win updates that I'll set to defer so as to avoid repeats of the 'argument' as to who is updating the drivers... MS or ME.
Then I'll tweak the boot time and see how quick is actual and possible, but whatever it is is immaterial as my machine gets booted a handful of times in a year...whilst Terry's spends more time off than on.... maybe 1 day in a year.
Reply #160 Friday, October 30, 2015 10:31 AM
I also used my GF's pc (i5 4670K, so not as exotic as build I have seen here) as test machine for Windows 10. Zero problems so far. However I did do a clean install from a USB drive created by the official MS media tool (after I upgraded first to get it Activated). I would rather just avoid the X hours to solve bug Y because I did an upgrade
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edit: I did have to upgrade Acronis True Image to the 2015 version because the older version do not support Win10.
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Reply #141 Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:32 PM
Er... it doesn't start up on the first try?