Jafo's OK PC Build of 2015
Tuesday, February 3, 2015 by Jafo | Discussion: Personal Computing
Following on with ID's thread re new PC build.... and I'd only hijacked Starkers' one to describe what I'd been doing to date...so here's my own thread with the ins and outs of what's what.
My old machine [also home-grown] was a [then] reasonably OK machine....
Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]
Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU
ASUS P6T-se X58 i7 MoBo
Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU
12G OCZ Triple [6x2G] PC12800 DDR3 Gold Ram
CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler
Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks [x2][black]
1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [redundancy backup/data]
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [x2]
500G WD Sata2 7200 HD [game backups]
250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [secondary/alternate OS installs in racks]
240G SanDisk SDSSDX240GG25 [for OS]
ACR-105 Multi card reader
LG Sata DVD-RW [x2][black]
ASUS GTX590 3GB GPU
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM.
That was its final specs...having doubled the ram from 6 and adding a 'faster' GPU.
The stumbling block was really 'just' the CPU. For FSX it's a case of 'the faster the better' - so just before Xmas I started researching....
More to come...
Reply #2 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 7:39 AM
....expensive...

Reply #3 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 7:44 AM
The design concept intrigued me. It seemed so 'logical' in so many ways - separation of components meant separation of heat issues [mostly], and for the very first time ever [for me] I was almost confident I could do some tidy wiring....
Now, it's bloody huge...and weighed 50 pounds empty, but the styling was such it deserved to be left on a bench, not under [which is good because it'd never fit].
The entire animal is 3mm 'sheet' aluminium so it's its own heat-sink and sound insulator.
The biggest issue was/is its price.
If you're going to fill this thing with 'bits' it can't be a 486 .... it's gotta be something 'cutting edge'....
....so fingers [wallet] were bloodied....
Reply #4 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 7:51 AM
[doing this in 'bits' because the ISP is flaky] ...
What I ended up getting, less what I might add [matching mouse and a Blueray burner]-------------->
Prices are in AUD so [these days] multiply by 80% for USD.
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Thermaltake Level 10 VL300A9N1N Titanium Limited Edition Case $1299
Corsair ASX 1200I Platinum Certified 1200w Modular PSU $ 439
ASUS X99 Deluxe LGA2011v3 MotherBoard $ 529
Intel i7 5960 3.00Ghz @3.50Ghz LGA2011v3 CPU $1279
Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 LGA2011 CPU Cooler $ 88
32G Corsair Dominator Platinum [4x8G] 2666MHz DDR4 Ram $1020
ASUS Strix GTX980 4GB GPU $ 869
512G Samsung XP941 M.2 PCIe x4 SSD [C]=Win7 Ultimate [H]=Games $ 611
240G Corsair Neutron GTX SSD [E]=[Office + Proggies] [hotswap] $ 279
240G Corsair Neutron GTX SSD [F]=[Games 2] [hotswap] $ 279
3TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [G + D] [hotswap] $ 128
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [I] [hotswap] $ 99
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [J] [hotswap] $ 99
LG Sata DVD-RW [M] [black] $ 19
3X SATA 3 Cables $ 9
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. $ Technet
MS Office 2007 Ultimate 64bit $ Technet
$7037 TOTAL
Reply #5 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:05 AM
This has been the first machine I've done with a UEFI boot, and definitely the first with the OS loaded onto a M.2 'card' that's about the size of a Wrigleys Spearmint gum stick.
It seems Windows just scratches its head when it encounters DDR4 so a WEI test fails every time.
The ASUS board has some 'tweaks' with the CPU pins [there are more] which enables a bit more get up and go from the i7-5960 and the desktop CPU 'gadget' showing 16 'cores' looks impressive.
This is a fourth generation build [for me].... the earliest were shop-built but I'd never go back to 'off the rack' except for laptops of course...
Reply #7 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:46 AM
Now, if anyone is contemplating a similar build...into such a case there's a few things to note...
The case is strictly ATX ...no oversize MoBos...
If you use the cooler I chose you need to cut out a few fins near the outer bottom to allow the case to close...I think the X99 layout has the CPU lower down than other socket types.
And if you plan to populate the other 4 Ram slots for something kewl like 64gig you'll have to chuck out the cooler entirely and find something narrower/more compact. As it was it came with an extra fan which cannot be mounted due to the RAM proximity, however one's more than enough anyway. [it's a good cooler].
Thermaltake goes to great pains to specify max GPU card length, etc...but forgets about width. The 980 only just fits....
Reply #9 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:56 AM
VERYYY NICE!!!!!
I have an Asus Maximus V Formula motherboard that features a PCIe combo connection. Essentially I have a Samsung 250GB PM830 SSD mSATA card connection for extra cache and faster boot times.
"Hook up immediate extra connectivity to the ROG motherboard and say so long to physical limitations. The unique Combo attaches to the motherboard near the rear I/O , and comes with one mSATA port supporting Intel® Smart Response Technology hybrid storage acceleration with compatible mSATA SSDs, and a dual band 2.4/5 GHz Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n and Bluetooth v4.0 card bundled into its mini PCI Express 2.0/USB 2.0 combo port on the opposite side. This way, you can connect extra devices without taking up valuable space on the motherboard, and get the best of both worlds: for better connectivity and expandability without sacrificing essential features."
Windows doesn't recognize it as a regular SSD, it seems to think of it as an external hard drive. Maybe that's why your M.2 isn't recognized either. Even Samsung's Maintenance program for SSD's doesn't recognize it as a SSD. Check your COMPUTER MANAGEMENT /Storage to see if that is the possibility.
Again A big WOW on that build.
Reply #10 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:11 AM
Windows doesn't recognize it as a regular SSD, it seems to think of it as an external hard drive. Maybe that's why your M.2 isn't recognized either. Even Samsung's Maintenance program for SSD's doesn't recognize it as a SSD. Check your COMPUTER MANAGEMENT /Storage to see if that is the possibility.
The OS is on the M.2 OK... however I think I'm waiting for a 'Bios' upgrade to get past the 2 or 3 cold boots needed before the thing actually fires up. Typically the Windows 'load' stalls halfway through the 'flag' animation and you just restart it again [with normal settings].
Since I rarely turn my computer off it's really only a pain with windows updates that 'demand' a reboot.
I expect once I've moved on to Windows 10 Microsoft will have caught up with 'modern' hardware...
Reply #11 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:57 AM
Now, if anyone is contemplating a similar build...into such a case there's a few things to note...
The case is strictly ATX ...no oversize MoBos...
There is no contemplating a similar build in 'such' a case. I have inquired about both the titanium and black versions and neither are available anymore. For the Titanium version, only 5000 were ever manufactured, and according to what I'm hearing, all have been sold. As for the Black version, the one I originally wanted, it is no longer in production and most likely unavailable unless some obscure PC stores here or there have one.
BUGGER!!!!!!
... cos I really, really, really wanted one.
As for the innards, well I'm saving like buggery for very similar parts and have plans to build later in 2015, probably around mid to late August.
However, I will go for the CoolerMaster Cosmos II case for my next 'beastie'
Reply #12 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:08 AM
Intel i7 5960 3.00Ghz @3.50Ghz LGA2011v3 CPU $1279
there is no such thing- U must have missed the mighty X behind it (Intel i7 5960X)
good choice for it`s cooling
I also need to upgrade soon but i wait for the next gen i still have some puffer i can run the I72600k on 5Ghz with air cooling
Thought of upgrading to a 8Pack Supernova I75960X Extreme OC but that would blow my wallet hehe
About the system stalling try changing the PCI-e SSD on a diff slot or take a look at the mainboard description should be working on every x99 board
As far as i know the x99 bios should have the bootcode for the m2
Reply #13 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:22 AM
Hi,
Hope that your pc remains also that fast for the next years ( its indeed very vaery and very very fast for today, but how will it be in some years? ).However the case seems really nice.
B.t.w: Are western digitals hd gotten better nowadays?.Did see about 5 of them with broken file systems some years ago.
regards bluedxca93
Reply #14 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:47 AM
Went to check on some useful reviews of this M.2 Card. faster than a speeding bullet. The reviewers who bought this seem to have a handle on how to make it bootable and recognized. hope this is helpful!!
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XP941-512GB-80mm-PCIe/product-reviews/B00JOSM3TK
Reply #16 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:20 PM
there is no such thing
Yes, forgot the 'x' ...
It's an M.2 card in an M.2 slot, not in a PCIe - there may be 5 of those in the X99 but only one M.2 slot.
And yes it's bootable....I'm using it right here.
For the Titanium version, only 5000 were ever manufactured, and according to what I'm hearing, all have been sold.
500. Mine's No.221 ...
Reply #17 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:41 PM
Benchmarking....
Previously I had used the Resident Evil 5 Benchmark Demo to test my i7-920 with the GTX285 and achieved a handy 106.0 fps at my default 1680x1050x32 DX10.
The GTX590 got to 144.4 fps. ....a 40% increase.
This thing gets 250.8 fps. ...
Reply #18 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:22 PM
ahh ok...
the small thing with the screws, honestly i havent tested one yet
enlighten me ^^ what is the difference beetween m2 and pci-e supertalent for example ?
I found something that says that they save up space but that cant be the only reason or is it?
Reply #19 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:51 PM
Quoting starkers,
reply 11
For the Titanium version, only 5000 were ever manufactured, and according to what I'm hearing, all have been sold.
500. Mine's No.221 ...
Yes, you are quite correct.... can't even blame it on a typo, either. I knew it was one or the other and figured the larger number made more sense... like why would they even start up the production line for just 500.
I could have checked I suppose, but at the time it just seemed like waaaay too much effort.
Reply #20 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:59 PM
M.2 is just a newer, smaller connection method. It's no different from a normal SATA connection, performance wise. Space wise it's a relatlvely tiny chip instead of a full 2.5 inch form, and plugs into a connector on the board. It's the standard for mobile applications because of it's size, but there are quite a few performance motherboards coming with them in the desktop environment as well.
PCI-E has a much higher bandwidth capability than SATA, the supertalent cards can be in the 2GB/s range, massively faster than the sub 600MB/s you can get on a SATA3 port.
They're also leaving SATA for PCI-E, just using the same connection methods going forward. the SATA-Express standard is a PCI-E interface in there for faster speeds.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, February 3, 2015 7:34 AM
Before I knew it whilst looking at 'the next' Lian Li case to use I saw this thing....
That's when it all got.....
....expensive...