So the computer finally is showing it's age

Monday, January 14, 2013 by kona0197 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

It's taken me awhile to start this thread, sorry. I know this may end up in flame wars. Again I am sorry.

So everyone knows my situation. Well those close to me on this site do. My computer is finally showing signs of how old it truly is. Keep in mind my computer has a Pentium 4 processor so I am guessing this setup to be almost ten years old. The problem, even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems. I'm having a hard time just running XP. Found out the other day my DVD Burner drive is almost dead as it will read disc sometimes and other times it will not. Monitor is on it's last legs as well. Hard to read anything and the brightness is going out. It's an old CRT Dell monitor that is almost as old as the tower.

As Starkers had told you this computer is my main way to communicate with the things that are important in my life. So I was hoping someone out there had a few newer parts I could install to extend the life of the machine a bit. Nothing special. I already have DDR2 memory and a newer hard drive. Just need a few other things.

So carry on. Discuss I guess.

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RedneckDude
Reply #21 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:52 AM

kona0197
I bet this machine could run 8. That would be sight to see. Might be slow but I bet it would run it.

 

even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems.

 

If you have a PC that'll run the latest OS, your ok.

Then why are you asking for help?  You're contradicting yourself again. 

I'm done here. Good luck, Kona.

 

kona0197
Reply #22 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:57 AM

I didn't contradict myself. I said it would probably run Windows 8 but it would be slow. That means the CPU can't keep up with the newer operating systems.

Matchbook
Reply #23 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:55 AM

Gosh. Wish I could help. I'm blessed in that I make my living on the PC, albeit in a 3d world (Second Life). I definitely know the old PC feeling, though the one I use now is, admittedly, a bit of a gaming monster, but it took some wrestling to get it. Sucks that systems are designed thus: So when one gets outdated, you can't just replace, that, oh no. Got to replace this, then that, to support the new item. But wait! That's an old motherboard; won't handle it, best get a new one, but then the Power Supply is outdated, so change that, and then this and then that and then.. Whole new PC. >.<

 

I hear ya. ♥

doortech1
Reply #24 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:43 AM

I have an old copy of windows 98, could mail it cheap. That is your only hope from me unless you live down the road. Shipping and handling would kill anyone, extra parts or not. Have any ties to your local church or something? Maybe a local business with stuff to spare from upgrading? I wish you were down the road, I would drop off a box of stuff.

 

Good Luck, and I was serious about the church. You may not even need to attend,just explain your situation, if worthy, they will help.

starkers
Reply #25 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:33 AM

Okay people, let's change the tone of this thread to something that's friendlier and with a bit of understanding.  We have a member with a number of issues calling out for help here, so how about we see what we can do rather than pick fault/condemn, orright?

First off, it is not just the CPU that's the bottleneck.  The mobo is also old and would not be ideal to run a more powerful processor.

So, I have an AMD Athlon x2 5600 2.9ghz that I can send from Australia without too much expense.  All that kona would need to get him out of immediate trouble then is an AM2 socket Mobo and a stock CPU cooler. Now if somebody in the US has these items laying around with no particular use in mind, they would be of great help to kona to get his machine running somewhat better than it currently does. He already has the compatible RAM, and it's just those 2 items he needs to run his machine at a reasonable speed, so how about it people, can anyone help out a fellow member who's doing it tough... in more ways than one? 

Yeah, apart from PC issues and a lack of cash, kona has a number of health issues impacting on his life, and these present him with difficulties in areas of his life that most of us take for granted, so before anyone decides to heap anymore ridicule and pain upon him, try walking a mile or two in his shoes to see how it feels.  Now I'm not at liberty to discuss these health issues in any detail because they were related to me in confidence, but believe me when I say that kona isn't at all well, and a little bit of help would go a long way to lifting his spirits.

Now if I had both parts and could afford to post them I would, but I haven't and can't, so please, let's pull together as a community and make this happen.  I have the CPU, it needs a matching mobo and cooler to complete the deal.  And if somebody has an old DVD ROM laying around, that wouldn't go astray, either.

Uvah
Reply #26 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:07 AM

Man do I know how you feel. I forget how long I went without one, your situation and mine...not too different. Here's what I can do, I have an XP disk with the key. I can mail that to you no problem but it probably wouldn't be until the end of the month. I also have Win 7 Pro but the key was lost somehow. With that you can contact Microsoft for a new key but without a rig it would do you little good  My suggestion would be to find a place where they sell refurbished machines. Sorry Kona but as far as hardware or finances I am not in any position to do either of those. I just qualified for LIHEAP which is a program that helps people with little or no income to pay utility bills. Before that I had to sell my food stamps. Fortunately I only did that one time. Now I'm hoping you live somewhere in the US. If not well...I don't what to say. I have an old Dell laptop someone gave me but the hard drive is toast and so is the battery and charging cord. That wouldn't do you any good. Before I fell into my situation helping out would have been a no brainer. It would have been done in a heartbeat, no questions asked. It bothers me to see people doing without and it pisses me off that I can't do that anymore. I wish you the best of luck Kona.

moshi
Reply #27 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:41 AM

kona0197
Yeah this is about my machine. Yes my daughter has a tablet and the girlfriend has a year old notebook. Those belong to them and we do not share except in rare circumstances. ... 

 

thanks for the answer. seems the concept for "being in need" in your country differs a lot from mine.

real advice: throw that computer of yours in the trash. do a little research on how to mod your XBOX. after all it's another full pc when you unlock it. Chinese Androird tablets or used computers can be purchased for as little as $50. now i know that wages in the US are poor, but it can't be more than one or two days of work.

Vampothika
Reply #28 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:26 AM

i wish i was in a position to help Kona.... im sorry I am not.

I truly hope you get what you need.

 

I agree with Starkers.. unless you have walked in the persons shoes.. you know NOTHING of their situation.

Everyone's circumstance is different.

An open heart is a beautiful thing.

 

bk334572
Reply #29 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:40 AM

RedneckDude
I have a perfectly good CRT I could send you, but shipping would be outrageous.

Just out of curiosity where do you guys live? Kona i think for a topic like this it is required to give some info about that.
All information i as digital audience have is that your located in the US but that would not explain the high shipping costs...

Jafo
Reply #30 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:59 AM

bk334572
All information i as digital audience have is that your located in the US but that would not explain the high shipping costs...

Starkers is in Australia, as am I.

Shipping an old CRT to the US would be about the same as buying just about anything in the US better than Kona's P4.

False economy.

Believe it or not, however...I know of people in worse position and in worse health who are also contributing and active members of the site.

No-one is made of money.  Each person has his/her own issues of Real Life to contend with...but we do what we can...where it will help best.

In my 'real world' a person's computer's inability to run whatever OS quick/well enough is NOT an earth-shattering drama of significance.

However,

If someone has something spare...AND the cost [to them] isn't prohibitive...then do what you can.  I'm sure Kona will be grateful....

Uvah
Reply #31 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:29 AM

Question......the laptop given me is Vista ready. Can it run Win 7? Kona.....the Win 7 Pro is yours if you want it. Best I can do.

bk334572
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:52 AM

Quoting bk334572, reply 29All information i as digital audience have is that your located in the US but that would not explain the high shipping costs...

Starkers is in Australia, as am I.

Shipping an old CRT to the US would be about the same as buying just about anything in the US better than Kona's P4.

False economy.

Believe it or not, however...I know of people in worse position and in worse health who are also contributing and active members of the site.

No-one is made of money.  Each person has his/her own issues of Real Life to contend with...but we do what we can...where it will help best.

In my 'real world' a person's computer's inability to run whatever OS quick/well enough is NOT an earth-shattering drama of significance.

However,

If someone has something spare...AND the cost [to them] isn't prohibitive...then do what you can.  I'm sure Kona will be grateful....


that is exactly why i ask, i have a treasure chest here full of old computer parts, since i retired i do compouter installations, maintenance and product reviews.
I have parts in my treasure hardware chest that some would consider high end that are just of no use anymore.
The only thing is i live in Germany/Berlin...

DPCloud
Reply #33 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:07 AM

starkers
Okay people, let's change the tone of this thread to something that's friendlier and with a bit of understanding.  We have a member with a number of issues calling out for help here, so how about we see what we can do rather than pick fault/condemn, orright?

First off, it is not just the CPU that's the bottleneck.  The mobo is also old and would not be ideal to run a more powerful processor.

So, I have an AMD Athlon x2 5600 2.9ghz that I can send from Australia without too much expense.  All that kona would need to get him out of immediate trouble then is an AM2 socket Mobo and a stock CPU cooler. Now if somebody in the US has these items laying around with no particular use in mind, they would be of great help to kona to get his machine running somewhat better than it currently does. He already has the compatible RAM, and it's just those 2 items he needs to run his machine at a reasonable speed, so how about it people, can anyone help out a fellow member who's doing it tough... in more ways than one? 

Yeah, apart from PC issues and a lack of cash, kona has a number of health issues impacting on his life, and these present him with difficulties in areas of his life that most of us take for granted, so before anyone decides to heap anymore ridicule and pain upon him, try walking a mile or two in his shoes to see how it feels.  Now I'm not at liberty to discuss these health issues in any detail because they were related to me in confidence, but believe me when I say that kona isn't at all well, and a little bit of help would go a long way to lifting his spirits.

Now if I had both parts and could afford to post them I would, but I haven't and can't, so please, let's pull together as a community and make this happen.  I have the CPU, it needs a matching mobo and cooler to complete the deal.  And if somebody has an old DVD ROM laying around, that wouldn't go astray, either.

I’m proud to be a member in a community with people like you!

starkers
Reply #34 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:37 AM

Just a couple of things but I need to answer this first....

I also have Win 7 Pro but the key was lost somehow.

Uvah, there are programs that when installed will find that for you... here, there's a handful of 'em over a majorgeeks.


Quoting kona0197, reply 5Yeah this is about my machine. Yes my daughter has a tablet and the girlfriend has a year old notebook. Those belong to them and we do not share except in rare circumstances. ... 

 

thanks for the answer. seems the concept for "being in need" in your country differs a lot from mine.

real advice: throw that computer of yours in the trash. do a little research on how to mod your XBOX. after all it's another full pc when you unlock it. Chinese Androird tablets or used computers can be purchased for as little as $50. now i know that wages in the US are poor, but it can't be more than one or two days of work.

Moshi, I am not at liberty to discuss them, but the circumstances in kona's home are not always conducive to sharing computers... independent needs, homework, etc, etc.  There's more to it than that, but like I said, I can't discuss it.  As for a $50 Chinese Android or 2nd-hand PC, well that'd be alright if kona had one or two days work and/or 50 bucks that didn't have to go on food, rent, utilities, living expenses.  It's okay to offer solutions, but he has to have the means to carry them out.  Now your thought as to modding his X-Box, that might just be of help, and if you were to offer support/assistance in that endeavour it would be much appreciated, by kona and myself.

Vampothika
I agree with Starkers.. unless you have walked in the persons shoes.. you know NOTHING of their situation.

Thanks Kitty, I value your support here, it's much appreciated. 

Now the thing is, people, I haven't walked in kona's shoes for even half a mile, but I've walked in similar shoes and for different reasons, so I do sympathise because I know what it is to be sleep deprived for prolonged periods; what it's like to suffer with depression and anxiety issues; what it's like to feel hopelessness and like there's no light at the end of the tunnel. 

Since my last post here, kona has given me permission to provide a little more detail regarding his health problems, and the comment immediately above sort of indicates what they are.  First off he suffers with sleep apnea and can go for weeks on end with such little sleep it affects his mental state and he becomes constantly depressed, withdrawn, anxious and totally frustrated. Now this has a negative effect on his family, as you could well imagine, it's not easy to live with, so often he feels alone, unloved, unneeded.  Try living with that people.

Yes, there are treatments for his condition, but kona has 2 problems with that. One, he doesn't have any money or medical insurance; and two, he has a phobia/fear of doctors and medical procedures. I know this because he showed me a strong reluctance when I suggested there were ways he could obtain the treatment for free.  So it's not just an issue of money or insurance, it's dragging himself there and actually going through with it... and then there's the ongoing cost of medication, which we all know isn't cheap.

To put it in a nutshell, kona is in a Catch 22... damned if he doesn't go to the doctor, and damned by fear if he does. So before anyone condemns, criticises or call him a fuckwit again, walk a mile in those shoes and see if you feel the same way.

Oh, and if anybody thinks it was easy for kona to ask for help here, let me assure you it wasn't. Despite everything, kona is proud and doesn't like asking for charity. In fact, he might even have a fear, shame, phobia about it, and the fear of refusal/rejection must be horrendous, so instead of thinking ill of the man let's show some compassion here and try to help him, please.

DrJBHL
Reply #35 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:45 AM

If someone has something spare...AND the cost [to them] isn't prohibitive...then do what you can. I'm sure Kona will be grateful....

Indeed... and I would have except that 48 hrs. before the OP was posted, I promised my old laptop to another member in dire need. I'm sorry, kona. I wish I could have helped more.

Perhaps bending that "rule" might help for the short term might ease your plight a bit?

Uvah
Reply #36 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:01 AM

This is bringing tears to my eyes so..............I'm gonna do something! What was done me for by RedneckDude, bless his heart.

starkers
Reply #37 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:05 AM

bk334572
I have parts in my treasure hardware chest that some would consider high end that are just of no use anymore.
The only thing is i live in Germany/Berlin...

If you have an AM2 socket motherboard that you could afford to post to the US, I have the corresponding CPU, then all he'd need is a stock cooler, which surely somebody in the US has a spare of laying around.  I'd send one myself, but I recently posted a HDD and a stick of RAM to the US that cost me just shy of 50 bucks, and a CPU cooler would cost me similarly, so it wouldn't be cost effective for a mere ten dollar item.

I'm more than happy to send the CPU, though.  If you could provide the motherboard then a large part of the problem is solved.

Uvah
Reply #38 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:12 AM

And I got the Win 7 Pro. I just gotta find some stuff and its a done deal.

Uvah
Reply #39 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:13 AM

starkers
there are programs that when installed will find that for you... here, there's a handful of 'em over a majorgeeks

Yum!

moshi
Reply #40 Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:13 AM

i am really not sure wether this will help in the long run.

when i was in need, i had troubles buying enough rice and noodles to survive, problems like one of three computers in the house not working still is  petty stuff to me.

by donating some computer parts or money you will just make somebody feel comfortable in the current situation. while there is a real need to come out of the basement and find an additional source of income right now.

if that doesn't happen and everything stays as it is, the family will be unprepared for the bigger impacts (and those will happen) like the car or laundry machine breaking, medical bills, etc.

of course a medical condition like that might disqualify for a regular job. there are still other options like manufacturing from home, moving lawns, etc. (and no, hoping that somebody pays you for fixing his computer does not count)

 

as for modding the XBOX, what to do depends on what version it is. you could even get an internet browser on an XBOX 360 without any modding. 

 

 

 

 

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