the fall of customize?
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 by John Hamp | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
When I first discovered winamp skins I went to a site called customize.org. Then I went to skinz when cust dissapeared. But since cust has come back its become a haven for l33ts. What's the deal there? Whose in charge of the zoo there? Its just wallpapers and screenshots and they constantly attack Stardock's stuff. I read on deskmod the wb3 announcement and the cust admins were on attacking it there. Then on cust itself they attack it some more. What kind of skin site has admins that bad mouth new releases of the software they support on their site?
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Jafo
Reply #3 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:41 PM
Reply #3 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:41 PM
Customize.org, its admins and its [remaining] members has a jaundiced view/interpretation of the skinning world.
Once the creator/originator of the whole 'community' it is now certainly 'different'.
Whether that is because of the rise and flourishing of other sites, or whether it is a reflection of the behaviour and mind-set of its administrators, is open to conjecture.
But..
Too much ill-feeling has been directed by them at the members of the same community that Custo was pivotal in creating.
Once the creator/originator of the whole 'community' it is now certainly 'different'.
Whether that is because of the rise and flourishing of other sites, or whether it is a reflection of the behaviour and mind-set of its administrators, is open to conjecture.
But..
Too much ill-feeling has been directed by them at the members of the same community that Custo was pivotal in creating.
Frogboy
Reply #4 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:36 PM
Reply #4 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:36 PM
Indeed. Can you imagine an admin here commenting on a NEWS ITEM on this site saying how terrible the program that the news item was about was?
Or Jark on DA or Chaz on LOS or Scarebear on Skinbase or Dave on Deskmod? It would never happen. It's just bizarre.
Or Jark on DA or Chaz on LOS or Scarebear on Skinbase or Dave on Deskmod? It would never happen. It's just bizarre.
Alexandrie
Reply #5 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 PM
Reply #5 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 PM
heyhey custo is custo, just a weird place I decided to quit long time ago.
The problem there is mostly young admins and users saying anything just for fun after a frustrated school day. This is the way to relax over there.
The problem there is mostly young admins and users saying anything just for fun after a frustrated school day. This is the way to relax over there.
craeonics
Reply #6 Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:44 AM
Reply #6 Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:44 AM
Nothing wrong with customize, just a different crowd really.
migellito
Reply #8 Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:45 AM
Reply #8 Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:45 AM
uh.. not really. some strokes just shouldn't be taken. it's not right to excuse inappropriate behavior by simply saying it's 'different.' it's simply not true that all things are ok, just in their own way. some things are wrong.
old custo / new custo .. two totally different things.
old custo / new custo .. two totally different things.
Doreen
Reply #9 Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57 AM
Reply #9 Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57 AM
mig remember we're on the net... who's gonna stop them from saying what they want? hehe
that crowd over there (the new one) has been the same since day one of it's grand opening, I don't see it changing now cuz it already has established it's personality over there and I just read and click next on my Fav's and go onto the next flavor of site... hehe (each site has it's own theme even this one)
thou shall not judge ppl by the sites they visit...
(cept pr0n or porn) hehe
Doreen wonders why ppl get so bent outta shape from things they see or read on the net??? =/
that crowd over there (the new one) has been the same since day one of it's grand opening, I don't see it changing now cuz it already has established it's personality over there and I just read and click next on my Fav's and go onto the next flavor of site... hehe (each site has it's own theme even this one)
thou shall not judge ppl by the sites they visit...
(cept pr0n or porn) hehe
Doreen wonders why ppl get so bent outta shape from things they see or read on the net??? =/
JayG
Reply #10 Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:59 AM
good ole equivication. can't criticize indecent behavior because it's not indecent, it's just 'different'. pity. once upon a time there were concepts like right and wrong and people knew the difference. now it seems nothing is 'wrong'.
Reply #10 Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:59 AM
good ole equivication. can't criticize indecent behavior because it's not indecent, it's just 'different'. pity. once upon a time there were concepts like right and wrong and people knew the difference. now it seems nothing is 'wrong'.
Doreen
Reply #11 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:02 AM
Reply #11 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:02 AM
Brad knows his product is good. (the sales show it is)
make a good product and "nothing that anyone can actually say" will bring it down, me thinks...
make a good product and "nothing that anyone can actually say" will bring it down, me thinks...
craeonics
Reply #12 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:04 AM
Reply #12 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:04 AM
craeonics morphs into evil_crae
"Wrong" and "inappropriate" are subjective and depend on your context. To them it may be okay, to you it may not.
"Wrong" and "inappropriate" are subjective and depend on your context. To them it may be okay, to you it may not.
Doreen
Reply #13 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:04 AM
Reply #13 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:04 AM
well JayG who is gonna stop ppl on the net? hehe
you can only control your own house that's it really.
you can only control your own house that's it really.
Doreen
Reply #14 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:06 AM
Reply #14 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:06 AM
what is so inappropriate about bad mouthing a product? been happening forever Microsoft is still here? is it not?
John Hamp
Reply #15 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:06 AM
Reply #15 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:06 AM
Some people think blowing themselves up in a restraunt to kill people makes them a hero too. If you don't speak out against behavior you think is bad then it becomes acceptable. cust's admins are routinely rude kids that have turned a once great site into a graveyard.
Doreen
Reply #16 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:09 AM
Reply #16 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:09 AM
well bad mouthing stardock and blowing yourself up in a restaurant I "think" are two diff things... hehe
migellito
Reply #17 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:12 AM
Reply #17 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:12 AM
oh, i'm not saying it would ever change. there's absolutely no way to change something like that, and i wouldn't want to. they have every right to say what they'd like. but that doesn't mean it's ok 
i mean.. i could tell my neighbor he has b.o. and i could mention it in conversations around the neighborhood. but it wouldn't be cool to do that. and.. i should expect to hear something from my neighbor about it, or at least expect him to not be quite as friendly towards me.
it's about being polite. simple courtesy. is it 'required?' no.. but it's a good idea if you want to interact with people. often people don't catch on to this until they're a bit older and have screwed up a few interactions, or even friendships, by being rude or tactless.
i mean.. i could tell my neighbor he has b.o. and i could mention it in conversations around the neighborhood. but it wouldn't be cool to do that. and.. i should expect to hear something from my neighbor about it, or at least expect him to not be quite as friendly towards me.it's about being polite. simple courtesy. is it 'required?' no.. but it's a good idea if you want to interact with people. often people don't catch on to this until they're a bit older and have screwed up a few interactions, or even friendships, by being rude or tactless.
Doreen
Reply #18 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:18 AM
Reply #18 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:18 AM
true mig
and I'm the type I would not tell my neighbor he has b.o. in person but on the net I would! hehe
I bet half the crowd over there at custo would not say the same things in person too... most are face to face shy?
(I know I am and I only sing my tunes on the net) hehe
some ppl can just express differently I guess, they are just venting their thoughts outloud whether ppl agree or disagree on the net welllll it does not matter cuz there is no net police to make them shut up or be quiet right but again
we all have that same right to speak or "Type" back!!! hehe
and I'm the type I would not tell my neighbor he has b.o. in person but on the net I would! hehe
I bet half the crowd over there at custo would not say the same things in person too... most are face to face shy?
(I know I am and I only sing my tunes on the net) hehe
some ppl can just express differently I guess, they are just venting their thoughts outloud whether ppl agree or disagree on the net welllll it does not matter cuz there is no net police to make them shut up or be quiet right but again
we all have that same right to speak or "Type" back!!! hehe
craeonics
Reply #19 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:22 AM
Reply #19 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:22 AM
B.o.?
craeonics goes looking for the dictionary
craeonics goes looking for the dictionary
Doreen
Reply #20 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:26 AM
Reply #20 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:26 AM
Oi! I get to teach Dutchy something new!!!!!!
b.o. = Body odor
hehe
b.o. = Body odor
hehe
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Reply #1 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:51 PM
Only on Customize would the admins of the site tear down newly releases of skinning programs without even trying them.
http://www.customize.org/news/232
It's been quite a fall from where they once were. Now it's the slum of the skin community.