Anyone Se The Lord of the Rings Yet?
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 by mormegil | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Just got back form the show and am planning to see it again ASAP. It ROCKED, I am a hard core Tolkien fan, and as a Tolkien Illustrator a bit of a purest, put I have to say they did a great job, and it was well worth the wait. 
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Firestorm
Reply #2 Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:25 AM
Reply #2 Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:25 AM
I'm seeing it this afternoon (woke up too late to catch the premiere.) I CAN'T WAIT!!!! 
craeonics
Reply #3 Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:32 AM
Reply #3 Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:32 AM
Similarian or Silmarillion? At any rate I just know they messed things up, I'm almost afraid to go see it.
Jafo
Reply #4 Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:09 AM
Reply #4 Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:09 AM
I'll get to see it next week some time....I'm sure I'll like it...
mormegil
Reply #5 Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Reply #5 Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
They had to change things of corse, but somehow you never go, "why did they do that?" it seams somehow they managed to keep the spirt of the books, and make it work.
paxx
Reply #6 Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:00 AM
Reply #6 Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:00 AM
I'll go see it soon, for sure.
The only critic I've read so far as the divergeance from the book is that too much importance is given to the character Arwen. But heck, they had to through in a love story is there, right?
The only critic I've read so far as the divergeance from the book is that too much importance is given to the character Arwen. But heck, they had to through in a love story is there, right?
craeonics
Reply #8 Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:12 AM
Reply #8 Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:12 AM
*gasp*
*horror*
A love story?
Now I'm definitely _not_ going to see it.
*horror*
A love story?
Now I'm definitely _not_ going to see it.
mormegil
Reply #9 Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:52 AM
Reply #9 Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:52 AM
The Love story was in the Books, just buried in the appendix, they just took some stuff from there and worked it in, and the rest of Arwens “augmentation” was done in such an way that it fit into the story and didn’t change the dynamic of the story, she is only in it for about a half houre, and most of that is she dose a lot of the stuff that Glorfindil dose in the books. I am a real fanatic about the details of the books, and they managed to keep me happy. And that is saying something. If you are a Tolkien fan at all GO SEE THIS MOVIE……
JavaBrain
Reply #11 Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:37 AM
Reply #11 Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:37 AM
Not being a Tolkien "fan" (I have read the books, but couldn't recite anything from them....especially since I read them in Middle school...) It was an entertaining movie. Best movie I ever saw? No, but quite good. It was understandable even if you don't remember the books, and it was fairly fast paced. There also was *nothing* in the movie that I looked at and said "well, that is obviously computer graphics". The characters were amazing. I also liked the fact that most of the characters were actors that I haven't seen before. I always get distracted when I see big time actors in this type of movie. The "love Story" portion of this is very short
I do, however, believe that this will be (along with the next ones) a movie that will be placed with the "greats". And, it does make you wish that the next one was coming out really soon...
I do, however, believe that this will be (along with the next ones) a movie that will be placed with the "greats". And, it does make you wish that the next one was coming out really soon...
Frogboy
Reply #12 Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:38 PM
Reply #12 Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:38 PM
Arwen's parts were well done. They just merged her character with Fingolfin (sp). And Fingolfin was actually a bug in the book that Tolkien didn't catch and later admitted was a bug )Fingolfin died in Sim, long before and elves don't reuse names). So it's not like they just made up a bunch of stuff for her (they did a tad but not much), they primarily just merged two characters into one which in my view made it a better movie.
mormegil
Reply #13 Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:11 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:11 PM
Not Fingolfin, Glorfindil, witch is was the high elves of the house of Fingolfin. Not to let my nerd ness show but there are several elvish names reused in the lord of the rings, it happend but rarely. The Glorfindil in Sim, died fighting gothmog. Yes I am a geek.
Yes I am a geek.
Chris
Reply #15 Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:08 PM
Reply #15 Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:08 PM
I just got back from it a couple of hours ago. It's really amazing. It was tough at first since I know the books so well, and had a hard time trying to not consiously compare the movie against it (with the changes made to it). However, as the movie progresses the emotional weight kicks in until the end where I was finally completely emotionally invested in it(and now got a weight another year).
I just wish it could have been longer to allow for some more of the quieter leisurly moments in the book.
I'm going back for a few more viewings, now I know what to expect, I can watch it without replaying the books in my head.
BTW, some guy a few rows ahead of me had a either a digital camera or digital video camara. Luckly he got busted just before the movie started. The usher threatened to call the police on him.
What's interesting was the demographics of the audience. It appeared to be nearly all 25-40 year old techie-type males. Basically a whole audience of my clones
I just wish it could have been longer to allow for some more of the quieter leisurly moments in the book.
I'm going back for a few more viewings, now I know what to expect, I can watch it without replaying the books in my head.
BTW, some guy a few rows ahead of me had a either a digital camera or digital video camara. Luckly he got busted just before the movie started. The usher threatened to call the police on him.
What's interesting was the demographics of the audience. It appeared to be nearly all 25-40 year old techie-type males. Basically a whole audience of my clones
Chris
Reply #16 Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:10 PM
Reply #16 Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:10 PM
BTW, Alan Lee's and John Howe's artistic hands could be seen all over the movie. Very cool.
mormegil
Reply #17 Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:32 PM
Reply #17 Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:32 PM
Alan Lee and John Howe did a GREAT job. And as a Tolkin Illiustrator myself I have to say I couldent ask for more. I don't know if Conceptual Artist is a Oscar catagory, but if so they should win Hands down.
Jafo
Reply #18 Friday, December 21, 2001 6:55 AM
Reply #18 Friday, December 21, 2001 6:55 AM
Sir mormegil.....it's a bit 'uppity' of you to claim to be both a geek AND a nerd. I really think you should settle on one, or the other....[gives the rest of us a chance to be noticed]...
Frogboy
Reply #19 Friday, December 21, 2001 11:45 AM
Yea, I don't know how I could get Fingolfin messed up with Glorifindel (Fingolfin was on of the Noldor high lords, I think he's the one who personally battled Morgoth).
Anyone see the rating it's gotten on IMDB? 9.6. It would be higher if the "purists" weren't on there giving it a 1. It's quite a bit different from the book but it made it a better movie as a result.
Reply #19 Friday, December 21, 2001 11:45 AM
Yea, I don't know how I could get Fingolfin messed up with Glorifindel (Fingolfin was on of the Noldor high lords, I think he's the one who personally battled Morgoth).
Anyone see the rating it's gotten on IMDB? 9.6. It would be higher if the "purists" weren't on there giving it a 1. It's quite a bit different from the book but it made it a better movie as a result.
mormegil
Reply #20 Friday, December 21, 2001 11:59 AM
Reply #20 Friday, December 21, 2001 11:59 AM
Cant I be both, I will have to go with geek is I have to chose...
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Reply #1 Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:04 AM
This is the type of movie that people usually say "They don't make movies like that anymore." Epic movies like Sparticus or Citizen Kane where everything is large and powerful and immense and full. In an age where so many movies feel like market demographic studies, here is a movie that is proud of what it is. It's bold, different from the books in significant but interesting ways, and powerful.
Even as I left the theatre I wanted to go back and watch it again. Even now it's on my mind..wanting to see it again.
What's really amazing is that while it diverges from the book, it does so with great respect to the spirit of the stories. It borrows heavily from the Similarian which I thought was extremely impressive (heck, probably a good 10 minutes of air time scattered about is material from Similarian rather than Fellowship which allowed them to cut down a lot of the slow pace that the first book suffers while maintaining true to the overall arc of the story).