Help with Object Bar
Wednesday, November 21, 2001 by starone | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I don't have WinXP, but I seem to be able to create the XP Bar, however I am having a problem with the Menu. I get the bottom, right, left and top okay, but the menu comes up as the windows menu and can't seem to get the WinXP bottom, right, left and top menu to come up instead. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help.
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feline
Reply #143 Monday, January 14, 2002 10:28 AM
Reply #143 Monday, January 14, 2002 10:28 AM
there is something very soothing about stairing at my title bars and seeing little fishes swimming around.
probably the cat in me
probably the cat in me
starone
Reply #144 Monday, January 14, 2002 2:29 PM
Reply #144 Monday, January 14, 2002 2:29 PM
Thanks, really neat. Wished I could get a similar effect with this one. Been trying to get just the animation (which unfotunately is on the top and two sides) to work by themselves without the 4 bars moving. Don't know if that is possible with using their anim.dll. Sure wish the animations were independent from the bars.
feline
Reply #145 Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:12 AM
Reply #145 Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:12 AM
???
i was under the impression that you could animate any of the 4 window edges directly. there are at least 2 skins i know off that do this to some degree or other.
what are you trying to achieve, and what is the problem?
i have never tried to do anything like this, but i dont see why i should let my ignorance stand in my way
i was under the impression that you could animate any of the 4 window edges directly. there are at least 2 skins i know off that do this to some degree or other.
what are you trying to achieve, and what is the problem?
i have never tried to do anything like this, but i dont see why i should let my ignorance stand in my way
feline
Reply #146 Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:19 AM
Reply #146 Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:19 AM
feline wonders if the sight of me skipping towards my own ignorance while grinning will be enough to scare it away, thus increasing my knowledge of skinning even more without work 
starone
Reply #147 Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:07 PM
Reply #147 Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:07 PM
Well, you asked for it - are you ready for this?
I have a total of 21 frames for each portion of the frame. I have a design (for lack of a better word for it) which is animated (animation of the left, right and top of the frame). I don't want the bars to animate, just the design. Humm, just had an idea. Can I do a separate file, say with a different extension, just for the animated design? But if I do that, I'm not sure it would stop the dancing frame since I still have to have the anim.dll in the uis file. I'll have to expremient in that area. Finally figured out how to animate the buttons thanks to your suggested download. I looked at the way it was done and bingo, it all made sense. I was trying to make it harder than it was (I owe you another one). Well, off to dancing bars, animated buttons and whatever other mischief I can get into.
I have a total of 21 frames for each portion of the frame. I have a design (for lack of a better word for it) which is animated (animation of the left, right and top of the frame). I don't want the bars to animate, just the design. Humm, just had an idea. Can I do a separate file, say with a different extension, just for the animated design? But if I do that, I'm not sure it would stop the dancing frame since I still have to have the anim.dll in the uis file. I'll have to expremient in that area. Finally figured out how to animate the buttons thanks to your suggested download. I looked at the way it was done and bingo, it all made sense. I was trying to make it harder than it was (I owe you another one). Well, off to dancing bars, animated buttons and whatever other mischief I can get into.
feline
Reply #148 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:13 AM
Reply #148 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:13 AM
and she strikes again
well, i spent an "instructive" half hour last night looking at smartbuttons in skin studio
following this i have come to a decision, which is that i am not going to bother with skinstudio any more. i just dont get it
feline *shrug*
feline goes back to cuddling vim
i tried to add a single smart button to the athenda skin, so as to look into your quicklaunch menu problem. however, i simply CANNOT make this smartbutton work.
skinstudion claims to have added it, and there is a load of stuff in the uis file, and WB 3.10 lets me configure the single button, but i cannot see it, and cannot make it do anything.
do you have some working UIS code that produces a working quicklaunch button i can play with? there are still a couple of lines of attack i want to try on this.
well, i spent an "instructive" half hour last night looking at smartbuttons in skin studio
following this i have come to a decision, which is that i am not going to bother with skinstudio any more. i just dont get it
feline *shrug*
feline goes back to cuddling vim
i tried to add a single smart button to the athenda skin, so as to look into your quicklaunch menu problem. however, i simply CANNOT make this smartbutton work.
skinstudion claims to have added it, and there is a load of stuff in the uis file, and WB 3.10 lets me configure the single button, but i cannot see it, and cannot make it do anything.
do you have some working UIS code that produces a working quicklaunch button i can play with? there are still a couple of lines of attack i want to try on this.
feline
Reply #149 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:21 AM
Reply #149 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:21 AM
on the question of this animation, do you mean you want to overlay the animation on only bits of the window border?
say, overlay the animation on the top border, and top 50% of each side border only?
if that is what you want, then one idea would simply be to have 3 sets of animation frames.
one set is the top border (title bar), and is animated along its full length.
then the other two sets are only animated for the top 50%, so the botton half of the side border frames are always the same. this would require streatching the animated frames for the sides though, since if you were to tile them then you would get alternating "changing" sections with animation frames that are always the same.
all the animated skins i am familiar with animate entire edges of windows at a time, with the exception of the aquarium skin, where only a small part of the title bar appears to have been animated. this implies that you can "attach" the animation effect to only part of a window border.
i will have a look at the files in the aquarium skin in a little while and see what it looks like it is doing.
say, overlay the animation on the top border, and top 50% of each side border only?
if that is what you want, then one idea would simply be to have 3 sets of animation frames.
one set is the top border (title bar), and is animated along its full length.
then the other two sets are only animated for the top 50%, so the botton half of the side border frames are always the same. this would require streatching the animated frames for the sides though, since if you were to tile them then you would get alternating "changing" sections with animation frames that are always the same.
all the animated skins i am familiar with animate entire edges of windows at a time, with the exception of the aquarium skin, where only a small part of the title bar appears to have been animated. this implies that you can "attach" the animation effect to only part of a window border.
i will have a look at the files in the aquarium skin in a little while and see what it looks like it is doing.
starone
Reply #150 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:57 AM
Reply #150 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:57 AM
Here is what I have in my uis which brings all the buttons up (downloaded the updates last night and thought perhaps that fixed the problem, but checked them out this morning and still the same old story, everything launches me into Object Edit):
SmartButton0]
Enabled=1
Name0=SmartButton 1
Dll0=url.wbp
Author0=0
WIDTH0=24
[Smartbutton.url]
Image=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
[SmartButton.quickl]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[SmartButton.rollup]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[SmartButton1]
Author0=0
Name0=SmartButton 1
Enabled=1
Dll0=quickl.wbp
WIDTH0=24
[SmartButton2]
Author0=0
Name0=SmartButton 2
Enabled=1
Dll0=aot.wbp
WIDTH0=24
[SmartButton3]
Author0=0
Name0=SmartButton 3
Enabled=1
Dll0=rollup.wbp
WIDTH0=24
[SmartButton.aot]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[BUTTON19]
Align=3
XCoord=24
YCoord=72
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
DllName=smart.dll
Visibility=0
SmartButtonNumber=3
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
[SmartButton.generic]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[BUTTON20]
Align=2
XCoord=-1
YCoord=54
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
Visibility=0
SmartButtonNumber=2
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
DllName=smart.dll
[BUTTON21]
Align=1
XCoord=24
YCoord=27
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
DllName=smart.dll
Visibility=0
SmartButtonNumber=1
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
[Button6]
Align=1
XCoord=23
YCoord=50
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
Visibility=0
DllName=smart.dll
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
SmartButtonNumber=0
Now for the animation - yes I do want to overlay the animation, however I need to tile the top, bottom and sides. Been toying with the idea of changing the frame shape (which is another thing I haven't attempted yet) to see what I can come up with. Am going to try that this morning. Haven't had a chance to settle into going full strength with working on this one - the last couple of days have been a little topsy turvy around here. Hope to have a little more time with it today.
SmartButton0]
Enabled=1
Name0=SmartButton 1
Dll0=url.wbp
Author0=0
WIDTH0=24
[Smartbutton.url]
Image=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
[SmartButton.quickl]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[SmartButton.rollup]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[SmartButton1]
Author0=0
Name0=SmartButton 1
Enabled=1
Dll0=quickl.wbp
WIDTH0=24
[SmartButton2]
Author0=0
Name0=SmartButton 2
Enabled=1
Dll0=aot.wbp
WIDTH0=24
[SmartButton3]
Author0=0
Name0=SmartButton 3
Enabled=1
Dll0=rollup.wbp
WIDTH0=24
[SmartButton.aot]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[BUTTON19]
Align=3
XCoord=24
YCoord=72
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
DllName=smart.dll
Visibility=0
SmartButtonNumber=3
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
[SmartButton.generic]
Image=GoldEagle\Button1.bmp
[BUTTON20]
Align=2
XCoord=-1
YCoord=54
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
Visibility=0
SmartButtonNumber=2
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
DllName=smart.dll
[BUTTON21]
Align=1
XCoord=24
YCoord=27
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
DllName=smart.dll
Visibility=0
SmartButtonNumber=1
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
[Button6]
Align=1
XCoord=23
YCoord=50
ALpha=254
Width=24
Height=24
Action=-3
Visibility=0
DllName=smart.dll
ButtonImage=GoldEagle\Button2.bmp
SmartButtonNumber=0
Now for the animation - yes I do want to overlay the animation, however I need to tile the top, bottom and sides. Been toying with the idea of changing the frame shape (which is another thing I haven't attempted yet) to see what I can come up with. Am going to try that this morning. Haven't had a chance to settle into going full strength with working on this one - the last couple of days have been a little topsy turvy around here. Hope to have a little more time with it today.
feline
Reply #151 Monday, January 21, 2002 9:40 AM
Reply #151 Monday, January 21, 2002 9:40 AM
well, i may just be back
i have just grabbed a copy of this UIS info, and hopefully will get as far as making it work on my home machine tonight.
on a different front, i have remembered a comment that went up next to the "Docking Station" WB skin when it was first posted. basically it said that it contained animated buttons which were produced via WB scripts.
of course, only a deranged individual would even wonder if you could somehow animate only parts of the window border with WB scripts
feline wonders if there is a document on scripts anywhere
feline wanders off to download docking station, to try and find scripts
i have just grabbed a copy of this UIS info, and hopefully will get as far as making it work on my home machine tonight.
on a different front, i have remembered a comment that went up next to the "Docking Station" WB skin when it was first posted. basically it said that it contained animated buttons which were produced via WB scripts.
of course, only a deranged individual would even wonder if you could somehow animate only parts of the window border with WB scripts
feline wonders if there is a document on scripts anywhere
feline wanders off to download docking station, to try and find scripts
feline
Reply #152 Monday, January 21, 2002 9:44 AM
Reply #152 Monday, January 21, 2002 9:44 AM
on a different front again, have you tried the latest builds of object bar yet?
version 0.9 and above will do the trick of hiding all the items on your start menu that you havent used for x days, *even* on win98!
feline considers this a life changing event on work machine
version 0.9 and above will do the trick of hiding all the items on your start menu that you havent used for x days, *even* on win98!
feline considers this a life changing event on work machine
starone
Reply #153 Monday, January 21, 2002 3:34 PM
Reply #153 Monday, January 21, 2002 3:34 PM
Hey, I've never been known to be sane. I seem to manage to try the impossible, thinking surely one of these days it will work.
Thanks, I've got Docking Station but didn't realize that it used wb scripts. Skin Studio has where you can insert scripts, it puts it in there, but I haven't been able to find out how to tell it what info it needs (if any of this makes any sense). When I analyze it, I get no info, but when I go into the section I don't see how to give it info, or even for that matter what it wants.
This seems to be an endless accumulation - menu problems, animation problems and script problems. But on the bright side, that's all I've run across so far. Well - except for one other thing. I tried the transparency bit with irregular borders, but the magic pink showed up. I even had trans=1 inserted, dynamic frame, but still the magic pink. So went back to full borders again. Still haven't given up on the idea though and am still toying with that portion.
By the way, think we should start a new thread - seriously. This one takes forever to come up. What do you think?
Thanks, I've got Docking Station but didn't realize that it used wb scripts. Skin Studio has where you can insert scripts, it puts it in there, but I haven't been able to find out how to tell it what info it needs (if any of this makes any sense). When I analyze it, I get no info, but when I go into the section I don't see how to give it info, or even for that matter what it wants.
This seems to be an endless accumulation - menu problems, animation problems and script problems. But on the bright side, that's all I've run across so far. Well - except for one other thing. I tried the transparency bit with irregular borders, but the magic pink showed up. I even had trans=1 inserted, dynamic frame, but still the magic pink. So went back to full borders again. Still haven't given up on the idea though and am still toying with that portion.
By the way, think we should start a new thread - seriously. This one takes forever to come up. What do you think?
feline
Reply #154 Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:54 AM
Reply #154 Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:54 AM
feline things skin studio is an evil plot to drive me mad
if you simply look at the skin files then you will find several (7) wbs files.
by the looks of it the scrips are using a stack based language. the interesting upshot is that stack based languages are supposed to be more natural for non programmers to understand, so you could be at an advantage here.
transparancy - odd that. the standard answers are you are missing flags, although you sound like you have used the standard ones. are you sure you have exactly the correct shade of hot pink? try a colour checking program and see if the colour number is exactly the same as another skin with working transparancy. if you are off by even one then it wont work.
i do see your point about the size of this thread
i am in two minds, partly because it is quite an achievement we have here, but on the other hand getting someone else to share the pain would be kind and generous of us
it would need a suitable name though. how about "Help with Object Bar2 - more confusion"
or: "Help with Object Bar2 - were back"
if you simply look at the skin files then you will find several (7) wbs files.
by the looks of it the scrips are using a stack based language. the interesting upshot is that stack based languages are supposed to be more natural for non programmers to understand, so you could be at an advantage here.
transparancy - odd that. the standard answers are you are missing flags, although you sound like you have used the standard ones. are you sure you have exactly the correct shade of hot pink? try a colour checking program and see if the colour number is exactly the same as another skin with working transparancy. if you are off by even one then it wont work.
i do see your point about the size of this thread
i am in two minds, partly because it is quite an achievement we have here, but on the other hand getting someone else to share the pain would be kind and generous of us
it would need a suitable name though. how about "Help with Object Bar2 - more confusion"
or: "Help with Object Bar2 - were back"
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Reply #141 Monday, January 14, 2002 8:16 AM
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