DesktopX 4 BETA Now Available!

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 by GunslingerBara | Discussion: WinCustomize News

A new DesktopX 4 BETA is available for DesktopX 3.x & Object Desktop customers. This BETA release is focused on streamlining the interface and configuration options. Visit the DesktopX Themes library on WinCustomize.com to select from hundreds of choices to change your desktop look and feel.

This BETA can be downloaded from your products download page on the Stardock store. Logon with your Stardock account at https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products. Please note this beta update is only downloadable via the Stardock store and not available via Impulse.

Create and use a complete new desktop environment specifically designed for your needs.

Custom sidebars can contain all types of information including system information, weather, clocks, and much more.

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LadyShrike1
Reply #21 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:49 PM

Hm, the setup file says it's for the Beta but like I said, it was downloaded less than thirty minutes ago.

He's loaded desktops and imported a few objects, so...

[email protected]
Reply #22 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:49 PM

The new installer wasn't overwriting files properly. Fresh installs were fine. I've fixed it. https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products 

And yes, in the future, the new updater will show this and fetch it for you rather than having to visit the web page yourself.

Kris

RedneckDude
Reply #23 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:51 PM

Advice to the wary, create a restore point first.  That simple.       

Philly0381
Reply #24 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:51 PM

Wonder if Nakor was able to fix it? 

Okay, who is going to try downloading it? 

(If I just would have waited........)

LadyShrike1
Reply #25 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:52 PM

One infuriating thing about him; he never has bad luck on any of his computers.

Makes me want to hit him with a handy book or something.

Philly0381
Reply #26 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:55 PM

....................... 

Wizard1956
Reply #27 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:58 PM

the new updater will show this and fetch it for you

Will it bury it in the backyard if it doesn't work?

Philly0381
Reply #28 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:05 PM

Wizard, behave yourself. 

But you do bring up a valid point.  To my knowledge DX 4 wasn't working very well to where folks went back to 3.5.  I wonder if this beta has fixed those problems or is this just interface update?   

RedneckDude
Reply #29 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:14 PM

OK, now it's working but there are no themes. Where does DX now store themes? All mine are still in program files but they do not show in DX Config. I choose load desktop and get an empty list.

 

Why can't we just leave all my files where they've always been?          

 

Nakor, please tell us where the themes/widgets/gadgets are stored.       

Murex
Reply #30 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:20 PM

RedneckDude
Nakor, please tell us where the themes/widgets/gadgets are stored.

 

Maybe DX buried them in the backyard,,,,

RedneckDude
Reply #31 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:55 PM

First thing off, DX throws an error and the network meters don't work.  Can this be fixed please? 

Phoon
Reply #32 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:09 PM

This is for standard and pro, right?

Looks like it is Standard only. The Pro download is STILL not fixed.

The link for Pro says it is v3.50.018 but it downloads 4.00.017

 

I'll try this version at home but will stick with the Pro version at work.

Installed an launches just fine. The theme I was creating with the prior version popped open and ran just fine.

The DestopX Welcome is borked. Windows cannot find (blah blah) welcome.exe - not a biggie at all on that one.

RedneckDude
Reply #33 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:25 PM

Looks like system restore again. I can't make gadgets or sidebar gadgets.    

 

 

Skarny
Reply #34 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:12 PM

Interesting - I wonder if the version I've been getting from Impulse the last month has been a beta of 4 too, because it was actually working fine for me. I'll give this new one a try and see what's happening.

Skarny
Reply #35 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:30 PM

Before I continue (hope I don't get stomped for this):

  • Can the experienced DesktopX developers testing the beta version please play nice and constructive?
  • Forget griping about the past version 4 or if this version is so much more broken than 3.5.

I for one am excited that this may mean DesktopX is going to get some attention again which I would say we are very lucky to get and I don't really want to have that possibility ruined.

  • Could non-experienced developers do the same, or stick with 3.5 version for now which is the last stable one.
    Beta is often called 'Bleeding edge' for a good reason. If you don't have bandages and a first aid kit...
  • Accept that this is version 4, saying 'let's skip to version 5' is meaningless and a bit silly.

Report so far:

DesktopX v3.95 (4 beta)
Windows 7 x64 Home Premium fully patched
UAC - Always notify
Standard User-Administrator account

Install and loading themes/objects

  • Good - Install package identified it would be 'admin install' by having the little blue/yellow shield on it. Was prompted to allow by UAC when double clicked.
  • Good - No install issues or crashes as per other reports - but I *did* have the previous DX4 beta installed before this one.
    I uninstalled it first, then installed this one.

Object behaviours - scripted

Object.SetTimer, Object_OnTimer, Object.Rotation

  • Good - Scripting window appears, script runs, object rotates
    Bad - Default font on script window still shows 'funny' character for backslash.

System Integration

  • Good - Double clicking themes and objects attempts to initiate loading them via DesktopX properly.
  • Bad - file extensions seem registered correctly, but in the Preferences tab for DesktopX the 'Make DesktopX the default program for loading .dxpacks and .desktopx isn't ticked, and won't retain its ticked status.

Folder locations

CurrentTheme:  C:\Users\<userName>\AppData\Local\stardock\DesktopX\CurrentTheme
Builder and Client exe: C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Object Desktop\DesktopX
Regedit says themes should be in this folder: C:\Users\<userName>\AppData\Local\stardock\DesktopX

  • Bad - I've put some .desktop and .dxtheme files in that location but they don't show up.

Provided objects

  • Found by using 'Import' button on the Desktop tab of settings window.
  • Bad - Many don't seem to have preview images
  • Good - All seem to import ok and work (including the weather one)
  • Bad - Many import without an object name (ie 'unassigned' in the object list)

New things spotted

  • Fuzzy!
  • Desktop (when icons are not hidden) has a new context menu 'DesktopX' > New Object & Configure
  • Object list/details window is now called 'Navigate Objects' in Systray menu.
  • ??? Nothing else really - so I'll try and go through each of the standard functionalities one by one and identify anything that looks odd.
Wizard1956
Reply #36 Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:45 PM

Skarny
meaningless and a bit silly.
So is releasing software, beta or otherwise, without proper in-house testing. 

Face it, the track record for recent software updates hasn't been the greatest.

Updates are getting few and far between, it would be nice to actually look forward to them instead of having to wonder what will get broken next.

 The comment about skipping version 4 was a joke, even though so far, version 4 has been the joke..

Anyway, you make your comments, I'll make mine.

Skarny
Reply #37 Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:03 AM

Fair enough Wizard - I should clarify that I'm pre-empting a bit here.

The posts so far haven't really put coins on the track yet, but I can see the pocket money coming out.

Re: the release comment - I tend to agree    I think it would be cleverer of Stardock to use its more experience DesktopX developers in the community to do some 'private' testing first. Maybe they did? I don't know.

c242
Reply #38 Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:34 AM

So the update is a no-go for Pro licences, when You want to compile gadgets ? Is that right ?

RedneckDude
Reply #39 Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:43 AM

Yes, Carl. This is not for the Pro. One will be forthcoming, I believe.

Installing this one removed my Pro.

Skarny
Reply #40 Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:46 AM

I see the 'export to gadget' option - but it fails at the exe creation point with an error 'dxApp-Custom.bin' not found.
In the past I think the Pro version update follows the Standard update so when 4 beta gets better the Pro might get the update too.

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