I read it twice and I'm still confused. I'll leave the WB's to you guys. That thing scares me silly. lol

BTW... I'm liking the way its turning out Roloccolor. You do good work, for a noob. (noob means beginner, just in case you didn't know that). Rock on Dude!

yeah i know im still in the rookie phase of skinning but with each problem i learn  You should try it also its fun.
If i didnt had the cutting mistake i would have saved some days it really screwed everything up.
I fixed the white searchfield popup with placeslist text margins.
@ Vampothica - fixed it with setting the margins on left for the allprograms button so that it covered the gap beetween the pipe and the blue solid...of course after i re-cut everything...it couldnt work with the cuts i had made.
Sorry long nerdy text:
added about 5 pixels to the left side of program list + allprogramms + top

to get the exact same size for left.

xample if the top is 453x130 the bottom part which is 476x130 size will be cut off.
Top part width ( for me it is setting the whole size of the startmenu )

to get everything the same size ( right and left ) i had to substract the program list (243x228) from the top ...example top (476x130 width equal to Bottom)
476 minus 243 = 233
233 is the width for my places list so that it matches perfectly.
Now that i had every size correctly set all i had to do was set the margins.
Added the Seachtop searchbottom and setted the margins for allprograms like so:

Roloccolor - if you don't like the way the pipes are stretching, you could do one of 2 things: You could make the pipes as a glyph, OR you could make the pipes as a single-frame startmenu animation.  If you make the pipes as a single frame startmenu animation, the image would be applied on top of the menu, and wouldn't stretch.

@ k10w3 - I will defenetly try that, i just finished all the taskbar explorer frames.And im pretty pleased so far ^^
I just hope poeple wont mind that iam not going to skin everything...since i realy love some parts of the diamond skin.
I worrie a bit that iam not allowed to upload the skin like this ( since the other parts i didnt lay hand on will remain stardock diamond).
So i wonder do i have to write a email to stardock to get a permission ?


As soon as im finished tweaking some margins, i will start a substyle where i will replace the black skin parts with a bright silver color.
Coloring this skin is nearly impossible so i have to add at least one bright style.
This should take me a little bit more time and while doing that i will try to use layers for the pieces on startmenu.

Substyle Silver:

Made some changes to taskbar for the normal style and substyle_ i will keep the first with the blue clock addon inside the wba package so people can switch it on if they like.
I also contacted Stardock today and asked them if i get a permission now iam waiting and thinking about what i could change for a 2nd subsyte.

Its really turning out good. Keep up the good work.

you should skin everything rolo, people dont like downloading a skin with bits of diamond skin still in it.

people will download a skin because its different from either diamond or luna,thats why we make windowblinds....

you dont need to ask stardock for permission, but also on another note, if they dont think you have skinned enough

it wont even pass moderation.

my advice would be to skin everything your skin needs to be skinned.

About the skin Luna i never used it but i did a quick google search for it, is it the Windows XP basic skin ?

Its not my attempt to push this skin out fast as possible - im willing to do changes on it each day / and i really work on it every day.
Like for example shell icons have a normal size of 1120x840 made in ZBrush portet to PS scaled and so on.All i want is to make a nice compftable skin thats functional for the community. Im also using it since a week testing for problems.Switched to substyle 2 days ago to test it.
Here is an example that hopefully shows that i realy try, and dont do pixel work only in tiny sizes for this skin.
Shell-music icon unshrinked and witout background example rendered only once since it will be shrinked to 128x128 head mesh is not 100% correct but for a quicky it should do well in the size i need it :

and the final size :

But one part i know of that isnt skinned yet... ( Taskbar- running Task mouseover preview or rightclick popup ) of a running program under windows 7
I just dont know where to find that.

i didnt say skin for xp i said only skin all the parts you need for your skin which is obviously windows 7.

if your not sure what parts you need to skin, download k10w3's latest skin, curse of the full moon, that skin is for windows 7 only.

and its a good skin too.

ok just to give you a short update on this attempt im currently working on the 2nd substyle
Thank you Vampothika i will have a look  at the Fullmoonskin from k10w3 and see whats still open for skinning... at this time i would like to thank you again you´ve been a great help already and i didnt meen to offend you in any way in my last post if i did i appologize you know my english isnt that terrific but hey at least im trying...
I will skin everything and change the remaining pieces of windows 7 anyway i will give credit to Stardock Design in my skin...if they like it or not
The 2nd substyle will be a little bit diffrent since i will try a smooth gradient on it and i think it will be a real task for me to finish it ,already ran into trouble setting the sizes for it so everything fits.Buuuuuuut iam already proud to have what i have...Its way more fun to learn stuff on your own and figure it out and i think thats the best way to learn so i will stick to my past learning sequence just like i did in ZBrush.Once im thruw with everything and did 3-4 skins this will be a cakewalk... currently its still like sticky bubblegum.Anyway long talk short update. This is the start of the 2nd substyle hope you like it...

Looks good.

Thanks Uvah
I made a view changes since i didnt like the dirt look so much also i would have been quite limited in my options for taskbar and windowframes so i thought i do a bit more industrial theme as 2nd substyle fitting with the colors just a bit brighter i googled a bit and found some stuff but i didnt steal the things i found i spend one complete night to rebuild what i have seen from scratch.with some little modifications...( just if someone askes i have every step as photoshop dokument JUST in CASE.

Also i found a problem when i mouseover the program list in Startmenu my searchbottombar shows is there a walkaround for this or a second image field that i can use so it dont messes everything up ? i tried using left and right bottom list but they get streched to wide.Maybee its my bottom bar height causing this i really hope there is walkaround for this.
I also made a picture discribing my problem sorry for the huge sizes im a bit in a hurry i need to work again in some hours. So both pictures are quite ugly but its the best i could do in short time.

For some more inspiration you might want to check out a community project called ... um ... Oh jeez. I can't remember the name of it. Somebody help me out here. Something to do with construction.

Ich muss sagen, für dein 1. WB wirklich sehr gut. Bin gespannt was daraus wird aber ich bin da zuversichtlich. 

Thanks guys, Danke Onklifiziert,

Uvah i just came home i have everything i need so far, im also pretty much finished with everything its only tweaking colors and so on right now and do some small tiny sized buttons.

But i must say im really proud of my work so far and i hope that the time i invested into this skin will be noticeable. And i hope you folks will have as much fun with the skin as i had making it.Afterall its intended to be fun.
The lastly mentioned problem is still up and it seems that i cant fix it .Anyway i will leave it the way it is even if the searchbox is screwing everything up.
If i had the chance to just blend the searchbox out completely it would be the first thing i would do since i never use it and because i think it is pretty useless.

Anyway i will finish everything when i find the time, and then i will open the test phase.

well something is obviously not right with the searchbotombar, you didnt have that problem in the version i sent you, so its either in the wrong place or something. check it against the settings in the skin i sent back to you. the answer will be there.

"I would be pretty limited in the creativity of future skins"

Welcome to WB.

Well said.

@vampothika i took your advice and had a look at the old wba removed everything else and installed it opened skinstudio and replaced the bottom search with my gradient bottom search exact same sizes.
Its the same thing there.( I did the normal startmenu and added an extra search bottom picture with a diffrent style so that my gradient with the pictures inside and everything wont just get cut of when opening searchmode.But it seems that search bottom is used also when i hover over the programs history ( the programs that show on programlist with the little arrow infront )
It isnt that much of a problem it just looks not so pretty since my Gradient ( the blue window and the black stripes get cut off as soon as i enter something into the searchbox ) The gradient the shape of the startmenu stays intact.
Therefore i made a clean startmenu topsearch and made a diffrent startmenubottom image to prevent it from looking odd.
If there would be a second option for setting a searchbox exclusiv for the searchbar and one for the programlist i would be happy and had no problem .
But i already ( almost finished with the complete 2nd substyle ) so i will stick to a cut off gradient when using the searchbox if there is no workaround.
PS: I thought maybee its the hight of the bottom that is causing this but i just used 476x20 as bottom and bottom search with an equal result.