Can I get some testers on a WB oddity?

Thursday, September 4, 2003 by eieio | Discussion: Skinning

Brainiac and I have run across a strange thing in my latest WB skin Romulus. On some systems, there is an alignment problem on the StartPanel. On some there is not. We suspect it may have to do with WindowBlinds version.
Can I get some volunteers to download these 2 skins and see if you get the mis-alignment on either and let me know which has the mis-alignment and what version of WB you are using.
I would appreciate any help or feedback.

#1 test skin
http://www.geocities.com/pictoratus/Places150.zip

#2 test skin
http://www.geocities.com/pictoratus/Places152.zip


Since it is Geocities, you may have to right click and 'Save Target as ...' to download these.
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Bones2112
Reply #41 Friday, September 5, 2003 9:48 AM
At least you know why, and if I might make a suggestion, make a readme for the wba and include both a 28 and a 30 graphic so users of older wb can set it up the way it needs to be, that might work instead two versions like you said...

eieio
Reply #42 Friday, September 5, 2003 9:57 AM
Good idea Bones. I wish we could get more people to test our theory, especially those with older versions of WB. I think we've pretty much seen that the 28 version (MoreProg height) works with 4.1
I'd like to see more people with older WB versions say the 30 version works fine.

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #43 Friday, September 5, 2003 10:03 AM
Wont work...still wont line up unless the "places "graphic is made to line up with either 28 or 30.The best you could do would be to have a subskin for the different versions,but why?This shouldnt be happening.Most people wouldnt bother to figure out the difference.They would just assume you had a problem with your skin and load something else.

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #44 Friday, September 5, 2003 10:13 AM
Didnt know you had posted stephen..

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #45 Friday, September 5, 2003 10:15 AM
The real problem here is not how to make it work(we know how to do that),it is why are we even having a problem at all?They should be rendering the same across the different versions.

eieio
Reply #46 Friday, September 5, 2003 11:04 AM
#43 by Skinner I.R. Brainiac - 9/5/2003 10:03:28 AM Wont work...still wont line up unless the "places "graphic is made to line up with either 28 or 30.The best you could do would be to have a subskin for the different versions


Exactly, Michael.

#46 by Skinner I.R. Brainiac - 9/5/2003 10:15:55 AM The real problem here is not how to make it work(we know how to do that),it is why are we even having a problem at all?They should be rendering the same across the different versions.


There was some kind of version conflict between 3.5 and 4.0 also if I remember right where people got either black or magic pink showing (I don't remember which) if they used 3.5 with a 4.0 skin.
Unless the # of people using 4.0 is very small as opposed to 4.1, I hate leaving them left out or having a skin that doesn't look right. If it showed up in this one, it's likely to show up in others.

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #47 Friday, September 5, 2003 11:59 AM
Damn SDC wont let me update WB,even if it would and this is the "new" way,I would have to go back and "fix " my other skins and then they wouldnt work right for anyone who hadnt or couldnt update. >

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #48 Friday, September 5, 2003 12:03 PM
Not to mention the thousands of people who would then have the "old "version.

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #49 Friday, September 5, 2003 12:08 PM
I wonder how you contact SD about this?They havnt responded to any of my emails about a problem I've been having for over a month now.
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eieio
Reply #50 Friday, September 5, 2003 3:20 PM
#30 by Wizop Koasati - 9/4/2003 11:10:12 PM WB4.10.010 ............ XP Home/SP1 ............ 150 works for me.


Thanks, Koasati!

eieio
Reply #51 Friday, September 5, 2003 3:23 PM
#36 by Hippy - 9/5/2003 3:20:07 AM The latest version of WB now support fully dynamic Start Panel areas. You can have them whatever size you want, and the latest Skinstudio supports the attributes for specifying the sizes.


Thanks, Hippy. That makes sense. That's why even with odd sized left and right sizes, it worked on my 4.1

eieio
Reply #52 Friday, September 5, 2003 3:28 PM
#50 by Skinner I.R. Brainiac - 9/5/2003 12:08:38 PM I wonder how you contact SD about this?


Sometimes they take a while. Anyway, I don't see them trying to fix an older version. It may be likely that 4.1 was a fix for something 'not quite right' in 4.0


I.R. Brainiac
Reply #53 Friday, September 5, 2003 3:35 PM
Pic...what hippy is talking about and what you did are two different things.You did it with graphics and content margins.He's talking about being able to specify a specific size for the elements of the start menu.(like the skinny places menus)

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #54 Friday, September 5, 2003 3:38 PM
I dont think they would purposely introduce a meaningless change that would affect all those WB4 skins adversely.Especially just a point upgrade.Bet they dont even know about this.

eieio
Reply #55 Friday, September 5, 2003 6:23 PM
He's talking about being able to specify a specific size for the elements of the start menu.(like the skinny places menus)


Oh, I get it.
Been thinking about doing something along that line.



Bet they dont even know about this.


You may be right.



Well, it's looking like we've gotten all the help we can, Michael. I think it's likely we've pinned it down to version. I'm not sure what the solution is as far as having a skin work on either/or regarding version. It may be that it will show up so infrequently that it's ignored. It would be nice to be able to run 2 versions of WB in order to test for this when making a skin, so as to see the odd ones beforehand, but I don't know if you could have 2 different versions of WB installed at the same time.

To everyone that gave feedback and tried to help, I appreciate it.




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