Wallpaper Madness
I am not a trouble maker
Friday, July 11, 2008 by PuterDudeJim | Discussion: OS Customization
I have removed this, it was wrong to begin with. I am sorry for not realizing that at first. I have made an apology to the artist.
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ZubaZ
Reply #2 Friday, July 11, 2008 10:58 PM
Reply #2 Friday, July 11, 2008 10:58 PM
Different moderators may look at the queue at different times adn judge differently. Especially in the "pure art" wallpaper gallery. Sometimes it's luck of the draw. On average . . it works out.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #3 Friday, July 11, 2008 11:29 PM
Reply #3 Friday, July 11, 2008 11:29 PM
I would sumise... that one passed and one didnt....further more to add to this... the one that didn't, didnt because it didn't, the one that did, did.
Well now that weve cleared this up. Im off to run for a gov office
Well now that weve cleared this up. Im off to run for a gov office
PuterDudeJim
Reply #4 Friday, July 11, 2008 11:39 PM
You got my vote, you have confused me more so than any politician to date!
Reply #4 Friday, July 11, 2008 11:39 PM
I would sumise... that one passed and one didnt....further more to add to this... the one that didn't, didnt because it didn't, the one that did, did.
Well now that weve cleared this up. Im off to run for a gov office
Well now that weve cleared this up. Im off to run for a gov office
You got my vote, you have confused me more so than any politician to date!
PuterDudeJim
Reply #5 Friday, July 11, 2008 11:41 PM
You are just pissed because you need more karma!!
Reply #5 Friday, July 11, 2008 11:41 PM
Different moderators may look at the queue at different times adn judge differently. Sometimes it's luck of the draw. On average . . it works out.
You are just pissed because you need more karma!!
Ton-K300
Reply #6 Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:56 AM
Reply #6 Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:56 AM
Both have the same tonal value (as I see it) but in my mind top grey has the edge over green cause’ it has a ‘centre’ making it a tad more interesting!
messiah1
Reply #7 Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:43 AM
Reply #7 Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:43 AM
If you want people to check out your stuff in your personal gallery, put a link on every submission to your WC page. That way, you have a 50/50 chance that more of your stuff will get seen. And in this case, whichever wall made it to the gallery, edit the description and put a link to the other one...then resubmit. Don't change anything but the description...don't reload the graphics, it won't go back through moderation.
2of3
Reply #8 Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:48 AM
Reply #8 Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:48 AM
I'll never figure out why some make it into the main gallery while others get pp'ed.
I read once that generaly if they get rated by the mods at 2 1/2 stars, they make it into the main gallery, but I've seen walls rated lower and still go on the main gallery. Dunno.....guess maybe it's like Zubaz said "luck of the draw".
You can either try to figure it out or do like me; shrug and stop uploading wallpapers to wincustomize
I read once that generaly if they get rated by the mods at 2 1/2 stars, they make it into the main gallery, but I've seen walls rated lower and still go on the main gallery. Dunno.....guess maybe it's like Zubaz said "luck of the draw".
You can either try to figure it out or do like me; shrug and stop uploading wallpapers to wincustomize
Vampothika
Reply #9 Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:10 AM
Reply #9 Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:10 AM
Id LUV to have my 2 cents on the subject...but ive promised to gag and straightjacket myself when i feel the need to have my say........ 
PuterDudeJim
Reply #10 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:51 AM
Feel free to PM or email me your point of view, I would be interested.
BTW, The top one is not mine.
Reply #10 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:51 AM
Id LUV to have my 2 cents on the subject...but ive promised to gag and straightjacket myself when i feel the need to have my say........
Feel free to PM or email me your point of view, I would be interested.
BTW, The top one is not mine.
PuterDudeJim
Reply #11 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:55 AM
Good idea. I won't let this sort of thing keep me from trying. I will still upload them, so what if they go to PPO. I will get better in time and that will happen less. I am trying to take the advice of the great ZubaZ and branch out a little. So far, no luck with walls, WBs, RCs, or docks.
Reply #11 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:55 AM
If you want people to check out your stuff in your personal gallery, put a link on every submission to your WC page. That way, you have a 50/50 chance that more of your stuff will get seen.
Good idea. I won't let this sort of thing keep me from trying. I will still upload them, so what if they go to PPO. I will get better in time and that will happen less. I am trying to take the advice of the great ZubaZ and branch out a little. So far, no luck with walls, WBs, RCs, or docks.
PoSmedley
Reply #12 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:09 AM
Actually, I find the grey center distracting. It looks like it was just kind of thrown in and doesn't compliment the wallpaper at all. The green one is very usable and simplistic in a pleasant way. IMHO.. which is why I'm not a mod. lol.
I'm confused. The top one says the author is HAPTORK in the main gallery?
Reply #12 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:09 AM
top grey has the edge over green cause’ it has a ‘centre’ making it a tad more interesting!
Actually, I find the grey center distracting. It looks like it was just kind of thrown in and doesn't compliment the wallpaper at all. The green one is very usable and simplistic in a pleasant way. IMHO.. which is why I'm not a mod. lol.
BTW, The top one is not mine.
I'm confused. The top one says the author is HAPTORK in the main gallery?
messiah1
Reply #13 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:41 AM
The green is Jims, the grey is Haptorks, the grey must be in the main gallery and Jim is wondering why his didn't make it since it's, in his opinion, about the same quality. That's as near as I can figure anyway. Give him a personal page elite award.
Reply #13 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:41 AM
I'm confused. The top one says the author is HAPTORK in the main gallery?
The green is Jims, the grey is Haptorks, the grey must be in the main gallery and Jim is wondering why his didn't make it since it's, in his opinion, about the same quality. That's as near as I can figure anyway. Give him a personal page elite award.
cplair
Reply #14 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:47 AM
You sound just like Gov. Arnold HG!
Reply #14 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:47 AM
I would sumise... that one passed and one didnt....further more to add to this... the one that didn't, didnt because it didn't, the one that did, did.
Well now that weve cleared this up. Im off to run for a gov office
Well now that weve cleared this up. Im off to run for a gov office
You sound just like Gov. Arnold HG!
PuterDudeJim
Reply #15 Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:00 PM
Correct, and Jim just had 2 more wall sets added to his PPO. I have a PP Award already, liked the joke. And I will be good and not try to cause a stink. Wouldn't do any good anyway. But I must say that IMO, all 4 of my recent wall sets are of higher quality than alot of walls that made it to the gallery. It reminds me of the inCognito wall by Buzz that was, IMO, a very high quality wall that didn't make it. I know I am in good company, but it seems as though the walls get passed or failed purely on personal preference, rather than quality. I am , and always have been, a lover of guitar. I don't like Chet Atkins' music, but he is very good at what he does, so I rate him high. I would not give him a low rate, just because I don't like his style, because, for his style, he is a master. Just a thought.
Reply #15 Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:00 PM
The green is Jims, the grey is Haptorks, the grey must be in the main gallery and Jim is wondering why his didn't make it since it's, in his opinion, about the same quality. That's as near as I can figure anyway. Give him a personal page elite award.
Correct, and Jim just had 2 more wall sets added to his PPO. I have a PP Award already, liked the joke. And I will be good and not try to cause a stink. Wouldn't do any good anyway. But I must say that IMO, all 4 of my recent wall sets are of higher quality than alot of walls that made it to the gallery. It reminds me of the inCognito wall by Buzz that was, IMO, a very high quality wall that didn't make it. I know I am in good company, but it seems as though the walls get passed or failed purely on personal preference, rather than quality. I am , and always have been, a lover of guitar. I don't like Chet Atkins' music, but he is very good at what he does, so I rate him high. I would not give him a low rate, just because I don't like his style, because, for his style, he is a master. Just a thought.
ZubaZ
Reply #16 Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:16 PM
Reply #16 Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:16 PM
Wall moderation is a fickle beast. For example, many, many fractal walls go straight to personal pages or rejected because while they may be fine enough, they take very little skill or time to create, and after a while . . . all look the same. Maybe WC isn't the place to upload those, eh? 
The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget.
The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget.
PuterDudeJim
Reply #17 Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:22 PM
The walls I speak of are not fractals, which seem to be popular. It shouldn't be about how much skill is needed to produce the wall, or how long it takes. That's absurd! It should be about QUALITY and usability. All the mods should moderate by the same guidlines so that there is uniformity in what is passed, and what is failed. BTW, if I knew what was wrong with them, could I correct them and reup? Someone suggested that they would not go back thru moderation.
Reply #17 Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:22 PM
Wall moderation is a fickle beast. For example, many, many fractal walls go straight to personal pages or rejected because while they may be fine enough, they take very little skill or time to create, and after a while . . . all look the same. Maybe WC isn't the place to upload those, eh?
The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget.
The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget.
The walls I speak of are not fractals, which seem to be popular. It shouldn't be about how much skill is needed to produce the wall, or how long it takes. That's absurd! It should be about QUALITY and usability. All the mods should moderate by the same guidlines so that there is uniformity in what is passed, and what is failed. BTW, if I knew what was wrong with them, could I correct them and reup? Someone suggested that they would not go back thru moderation.
ZubaZ
Reply #18 Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:10 PM
Reply #18 Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:10 PM
The fractal situation was just an example of why wall moderation is different. The fact is that WC isn't a wallpaper site . . it's a skinning site and walls are a part of that and should be included (but maybe to a lesser degree).
With skins for WB, any mod can check for the same things: Does it work? Is everything skinned? Is it usable? And finally does it look good? For walls it's mostly: Is is a valid resolution? Is it usable? Does it look good?
Walls, by definition, are more about personal taste (the artist's, the moderator's, and the user's). That's why most are reviewed by more than one mod and there's more discussion about them (and why they sometimes take longer to go through moderation).
With skins for WB, any mod can check for the same things: Does it work? Is everything skinned? Is it usable? And finally does it look good? For walls it's mostly: Is is a valid resolution? Is it usable? Does it look good?
Walls, by definition, are more about personal taste (the artist's, the moderator's, and the user's). That's why most are reviewed by more than one mod and there's more discussion about them (and why they sometimes take longer to go through moderation).
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #19 Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:25 PM
Reply #19 Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:25 PM
You know, it's not fair to single out the work of someone else, who has done nothing wrong, for comparison. That image should be removed to protect the person involved.
This thread is disappointing. It's not what I expect from a WinCustomize Apprentice
This thread is disappointing. It's not what I expect from a WinCustomize Apprentice
Bebi Bulma
Reply #20 Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:13 PM
I agree.
Reply #20 Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:13 PM
You know, it's not fair to single out the work of someone else, who has done nothing wrong, for comparison. That image should be removed to protect the person involved.This thread is disappointing. It's not what I expect from a WinCustomize Apprentice
I agree.
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Reply #1 Friday, July 11, 2008 10:23 PM