Wallpaper Madness
I am not a trouble maker
Friday, July 11, 2008 by PuterDudeJim | Discussion: OS Customization
I have removed this, it was wrong to begin with. I am sorry for not realizing that at first. I have made an apology to the artist.
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CarGuy1
Reply #22 Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:36 PM
Reply #22 Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:36 PM
Questions on skin comparisons are best done by PM to the moderator of that gallery and not in the forums. By singling out member in the comparison it just creates ill will, which I‘m sure was not your intention.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #23 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:05 PM
Being stuck in Sacramento for a month is having an effect on me.. I must be too close to the Govenator.
I was under the impression both walls were of the same creator, my bad. Yes tis improper to use another artist's items for comparison unless they have offered consent.
Reply #23 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:05 PM
You sound just like Gov. Arnold HG!
Being stuck in Sacramento for a month is having an effect on me.. I must be too close to the Govenator.
I was under the impression both walls were of the same creator, my bad. Yes tis improper to use another artist's items for comparison unless they have offered consent.
PuterDudeJim
Reply #24 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:09 PM
I agree, and I will remove it if I have the ability. I like the other person's work. I just wanted to try to point out that I think WC needs a better method of wallpaper evaluation. Just my opinion. Thanx to all who have answered this post. I will not speak of it again.
Reply #24 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:09 PM
You know, it's not fair to single out the work of someone else, who has done nothing wrong, for comparison. That image should be removed to protect the person involved.
This thread is disappointing. It's not what I expect from a WinCustomize Apprentice
This thread is disappointing. It's not what I expect from a WinCustomize Apprentice
I agree, and I will remove it if I have the ability. I like the other person's work. I just wanted to try to point out that I think WC needs a better method of wallpaper evaluation. Just my opinion. Thanx to all who have answered this post. I will not speak of it again.
PuterDudeJim
Reply #25 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:19 PM
I agree, did not see that, I will issue an apology to the artist, who does very good work IMO. I am sorry. It was not my intention to do him harm.
Reply #25 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:19 PM
By singling out member in the comparison it just creates ill will, which I‘m sure was not your intention
I agree, did not see that, I will issue an apology to the artist, who does very good work IMO. I am sorry. It was not my intention to do him harm.
Frankief
Reply #26 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:21 PM
Reply #26 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:21 PM
"Wall moderation is a fickle beast. For example, many, many fractal walls go straight to personal pages or rejected because while they may be fine enough, they take very little skill or time to create, and after a while . . . all look the same. Maybe WC isn't the place to upload those, eh?
The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget."
I really take issue with this in regards to Apo flame fractals. You need a lot of skill and patience to tweak a flame into a usable image. I spend hours on each image I make and each one is unique. They do not all look alike.
If anyone thinks this is the case, I challenge you to try Apo and see if it is as simple as "point and click". Flame fractals are a different animal.
So, fellow Apoists, what say ye to this statement?
Please do not take offense to this but felt I had to state my case.
The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget."
I really take issue with this in regards to Apo flame fractals. You need a lot of skill and patience to tweak a flame into a usable image. I spend hours on each image I make and each one is unique. They do not all look alike.
If anyone thinks this is the case, I challenge you to try Apo and see if it is as simple as "point and click". Flame fractals are a different animal.
So, fellow Apoists, what say ye to this statement?
Please do not take offense to this but felt I had to state my case.
PuterDudeJim
Reply #27 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:32 PM
Reply #27 Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:32 PM
I wish I hadn't started this. It wasn't meant to go this way. 
ZubaZ
Reply #28 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:36 PM
Frankief, again, the fractals example was *just* an example. There are always exceptions.
Reply #28 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:36 PM
I wish I hadn't started this. It wasn't meant to go this way
I think it's still a good discussion. Thanks for removing the images. Makes it easier. 
Frankief, again, the fractals example was *just* an example. There are always exceptions.
HAPTORK
Reply #29 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:58 PM
Reply #29 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:58 PM
I just checked your personal gallery Frankief. I am shocked to see that most of the walls at page 1st only show in your personal gallery even though they deserve a lot. Its naturally a bit disapponting but you should keep them coming because there are many people who will check your gallery and praise your work cause it deserves it.
cplair
Reply #30 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:58 PM
Gaaaaaaads!
I was stuck in Natomas for 2 years!
Reply #30 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:58 PM
Being stuck in Sacramento for a month is having an effect on me.. I must be too close to the Govenator
Gaaaaaaads!
I was stuck in Natomas for 2 years!
HAPTORK
Reply #31 Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:02 AM
Reply #31 Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:02 AM
Ouch, its all about my wall. I just saw your comment on my page and i was surprised. It was shock for it came from you, buddy. you might not be having wrong intentions but all I know is that... this discussion hurts. Maybe at some point of my life I will learn to say "Its OK, no problem" even after all this but rightnow I am sorry I cant say this.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #32 Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:11 AM
Reply #32 Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:11 AM
Hap I think jim was simply hoping to get a more clear idea of what is wanted in a wall to be accepted in to the main gallery, not an attempt at pointing the finger at any one in perticular.
I believe his Idea was to use a simular wall to get a better understanding of the critical points to which wallpapers are moderated. I do not believe he had any ill intentions.
I believe his Idea was to use a simular wall to get a better understanding of the critical points to which wallpapers are moderated. I do not believe he had any ill intentions.
PuterDudeJim
Reply #33 Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:05 AM
I did not and I am deeply sorry for my poor judgement in this matter. I sincerely apologize, Haptork. As a gesture of goodwill, I have sent you a few items , one of which you expressed an interest in on my site tonight. Please accept my deepest apologies. (
Reply #33 Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:05 AM
I do not believe he had any ill intentions
I did not and I am deeply sorry for my poor judgement in this matter. I sincerely apologize, Haptork. As a gesture of goodwill, I have sent you a few items , one of which you expressed an interest in on my site tonight. Please accept my deepest apologies. (
PuterDudeJim
Reply #34 Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:11 AM
It actually never was about your wall, or mine. It was about my opinion on the way walls are moderated. Yours is good, so is mine. Yours was approved, mine wasn't. Seemed to me to be inconsistency in moderation. I was wrong, I went about it wrong, and I cannot undo it. I never said anything bad about your wall. I like your work alot and have a lot of respect for you. Again, please accept my sincere apologies.
Reply #34 Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:11 AM
Ouch, its all about my wall.
It actually never was about your wall, or mine. It was about my opinion on the way walls are moderated. Yours is good, so is mine. Yours was approved, mine wasn't. Seemed to me to be inconsistency in moderation. I was wrong, I went about it wrong, and I cannot undo it. I never said anything bad about your wall. I like your work alot and have a lot of respect for you. Again, please accept my sincere apologies.
Vampothika
Reply #35 Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:18 AM
Reply #35 Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:18 AM
Hap......... Jim truly didnt mean any harm...... hes an awsome fella.... and so are you.....
please forgive him darlin.......... xxx cause we all love you both.
please forgive him darlin.......... xxx cause we all love you both.
HAPTORK
Reply #36 Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:42 AM
Reply #36 Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:42 AM
I was a bit impulsive to say that. Sorry Jim, I took you the wrong way. You have always been a nice guy and I know that. I even dont mind if someone says that he has done a better wallpaper than me cause I know I am not at all good at walls but I dont know why I felt dissapointed with this. Anyway, now everything is OK. Everything is cool between us. Thanks everyone. Now we should continue the nice discussion.
sAARGe
Reply #38 Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:04 PM
Reply #38 Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:04 PM
well ..... after investigation ... the FBI clears ...
the idea of Jim wasnt to heart someone ..... thats for sure
but the point i think was right ..... to make better wallpaper selection system ....
anyways ... i know HapTork personally .... he is a bit agressive .... but has a mighty heart ..... a really goood guy .....
he didnt meant to say something bad to someone .....
****Good to see all in PEACE
the idea of Jim wasnt to heart someone ..... thats for sure
but the point i think was right ..... to make better wallpaper selection system ....
anyways ... i know HapTork personally .... he is a bit agressive .... but has a mighty heart ..... a really goood guy .....
he didnt meant to say something bad to someone .....
****Good to see all in PEACE
Wizard1956
Reply #39 Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:29 PM
Reply #39 Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:29 PM
It's too bad there isn't something like an "artists directory" ,a page that has all skinning members listed with links to their personal page.
Also it should list what is on the pp(icons,wp,wb,whatever you all are putting there that isn't in the gallery).Just an icon would do this.Date of last addition would be nice as well.
I,or anyone else could go to the directory,see a skinner has WP's for instance on his or her page and go take a look.
Far easier than visiting every personal page,imo.
Keep y'all from visiting mine by mistake,looking for talent!
Also it should list what is on the pp(icons,wp,wb,whatever you all are putting there that isn't in the gallery).Just an icon would do this.Date of last addition would be nice as well.
I,or anyone else could go to the directory,see a skinner has WP's for instance on his or her page and go take a look.
Far easier than visiting every personal page,imo.
Keep y'all from visiting mine by mistake,looking for talent!
Bebi Bulma
Reply #40 Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:37 PM
There's a "Personal Page Index" link in the footer (forums is missing the footer for some reason):
http://sites.wincustomize.com/
Reply #40 Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:37 PM
It's too bad there isn't something like an "artists directory" ,a page that has all skinning members listed with links to their personal page.
There's a "Personal Page Index" link in the footer (forums is missing the footer for some reason):
http://sites.wincustomize.com/
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Reply #21 Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:24 PM
IF a wall is overly simple to create/reproduce the issue is that it is VERY likely to be repeated.
One of the 'old rules of wall moderation' [sins] was called 'the blue swirlie'. They were a no-no, not because someone didn't like blue.....or swirls....but in fact because most people prefer walls in blue ....and a 'swirl' is about the simplest 'filter'/function you can apply to an image.
We get a few per week submitted....and if they're lucky they get as far as PP.
Fractals are essentially point-and-click-go-make-a-coffee-come-back-and-upload-the-result...and can be 'made' as quickly as your CPU allows. Some look OK, actually...but most are repetitive and are only slight deviations from the default/predictable.
In order to save people from having to wade through a bottomless sea of repetition in the gallery there'll be a tendency to redirect the 'flood' to the Personal Pages.
Re fractals....I remember my seeing the first one....and being amazed by the mathematics that it represented/generated...that the closer you focus in/enlarge it....the more it's repeated. Did I rush off and declare it/they make brilliant walls?....er....no....
When wanting to make comparisons like this thread please avoid dragging a fellow member into it for no good reason.