Some things I'd like to see for ObjectDock

Wishfull thinking....

Friday, November 9, 2007 by messiah1 | Discussion: ObjectDock

Now, don't get me wrong, for the money ObjectDock plus is a rockin' program. I love it. And the past few upgrades have been super. As a monkey that makes skins for OD, I sometimes find myself limited in the things I can do as far as design, but that's to be expected. The developers can't read the minds of the folks using or designing for OD. I understand that. So here are a couple of things I'd like to see for ObjectDock, if you have any others, feel free to post 'em. (oh, and if any of these are already in OD, slap me)

1. I know I can set my tabs to be different colors and have different fonts...however, what I'd like to see is a way to have different color fonts for active/inactive tabs. For example, the active tab has a white font, the inactive tabs has a gray or black font.

2. Blurring! I'd love to see the same option that WB6 now has where you could turn on blurring for the docks...say you have a clear dock and where you can see through it is slightly blurred. That would rock.

3. Docks that can be curved. I know I can make curved docks...but how sweet would it be to have the icons follow the curve of the dock?

Ok, your turn.   
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messiah1
Reply #161 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:52 AM

Glad You like the ideas! ........... Assuming You are going with My suggested file path

Well, therin lies the problem...we have to make it as simple as we can for users...in that ObjectDock Library folder, there is a folder for special images that has folders for running indicators etc.  You could put the PlusMinus folder there and then when they dl a package, the instructions say to place folder x into that folder.

 

The thing that bugs me is that there are two places for ObjectDock backgrounds.  One in the my documents location, and one in the C drive location.  And you never know where the user places their stuff.  Currently, I hard code mine to be in the C:\Program Files\Stardock\ObjectDock\Backgrounds and then the package folder name and then the actual docks folder.  All I have to do is instruct the user to ensure they place their entire package in that structure to be able to use the plus/minus images.  They do however have to place 2 other folders into 2 other folders, i.e. the running indicators and the weather backdrops, so a user that is currently doing that would probably be ok with doing the plus/minus one as well...but then we come back to where are they doing it.  C: location or My Documents location...

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #162 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:55 AM

Quoting Myself from My RC thread, because it would be cool for OD as well.........

I don't know how much it would weigh the program down..... how about aditional "drawing settings" ( stretch/tile points )

e.g. Left Start, Left Stop......( fancy schmancy design element ).......Right Stop, Right Start, also for Top and Bottom......to allow for centered images in the design of the skin. Of course this would be optional, and skinners could also use the current drawing settings as well, if the design did not require the center portion of the image to be retained.

 

 

messiah1
Reply #163 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:56 AM

Having separate folders for each app is nothing but annoying.

I think separate folders for each app is ok, as long as its in the same location.  Like currently with C:\Program Files\Stardock.  Inside that is Impulse, ObjectDesktop (with WB, RC et inside that) and ObjectDock etc...this is fine.  It's the pesky Stardock folder that also is now under C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Stardock for Windowblinds or the same for OD...I don't understand why this was done other than to share the WB and Docks with all on the PC.  It's frustrating to say the least.

messiah1
Reply #164 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:57 AM

bk13GarbageMan
Quoting Myself from My RC thread, because it would be cool for OD as well.........


I don't know how much it would weigh the program down..... how about aditional "drawing settings" ( stretch/tile points )

e.g. Left Start, Left Stop......( fancy schmancy design element ).......Right Stop, Right Start, also for Top and Bottom......to allow for centered images in the design of the skin. Of course this would be optional, and skinners could also use the current drawing settings as well, if the design did not require the center portion of the image to be retained.

 

Yeah, like the munkeh said on "Fred's" RC thread, it's something I've wanted for OD for awhile.

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #165 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:34 PM

but then we come back to where are they doing it. C: location or My Documents location...

If they are doing it in C:, right now the path is different for 64 bit, if it is in My Documents, that's no good either because everyone has a different username, I forgot to mention it before........

but the 64 bit has both Program Files and Program Files (x86) however the Stardock folder is installed to the (x86) one......

We could have just the 64 bit users create the same folder structure in Program Files......and then when We make a skin, make a seperate folder with the Plus/Minus images and then just to put that folder with the Plus/Minus only, in the C: location and then it wouldn't matter if the dock was there or in the documents.

Mirsguy
Reply #166 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:38 PM

Quoting bk13GarbageMan,
reply 12
Quoting Myself from My RC thread, because it would be cool for OD as well.........


I don't know how much it would weigh the program down..... how about aditional "drawing settings" ( stretch/tile points )

e.g. Left Start, Left Stop......( fancy schmancy design element ).......Right Stop, Right Start, also for Top and Bottom......to allow for centered images in the design of the skin. Of course this would be optional, and skinners could also use the current drawing settings as well, if the design did not require the center portion of the image to be retained.



Yeah, like the munkeh said on "Fred's" RC thread, it's something I've wanted for OD for awhile.

https://forums.wincustomize.com/359134

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #167 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:51 PM

we have to make it as simple as we can for users...in that ObjectDock Library folder, there is a folder for special images that has folders for running indicators etc. You could put the PlusMinus folder there and then when they dl a package, the instructions say to place folder x into that folder.

This would be great, but then there would either have to be a way to select the images like the running indicators, otherwise the whole OD library needs to be moved to the Public Documents.....

Mirsguy
Reply #168 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:57 PM

I'd say make the backgrounds so they are saved in the user's Documents, that'll make it easier for the user to back them up. Then allow all the peripheral graphics to be placed somewhere in there.

I personally like how WindowBlinds puts all the graphics for one skin in one folder. The only problem there is that those folders (for WB skins) are well hidden.

Mirsguy
Reply #169 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:58 PM

Quoting myself from another post...

What if skinners could use SkinStudio to create skins other than WindowBlind skins? Like, what if I could utilize SKS to create ObjectDock backgrounds and tabs?

I just think this would be a GREAT way to go with OD skinning. And this would incorporate a lot of what was mentioned above.

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #170 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:09 PM

Quoting myself from another post...

What if skinners could use SkinStudio to create skins other than WindowBlind skins? Like, what if I could utilize SKS to create ObjectDock backgrounds and tabs?

I just think this would be a GREAT way to go with OD skinning. And this would incorporate a lot of what was mentioned above.

That sounds cool, I would have to dust mine off first, and then get un-intimidated by it! 

Mirsguy
Reply #171 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:31 PM

I would have to dust mine off first, and then get un-intimidated by it!

I didn't think about the intimidation factor. I was intimidated by SKS at first, too.

Maybe they could make a utility for OD like the RightClick skin editor. Maybe said utility could incorporate SKS style settings.

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #172 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:48 PM

I didn't think about the intimidation factor. I was intimidated by SKS at first, too.

Maybe they could make a utility for OD like the RightClick skin editor. Maybe said utility could incorporate SKS style settings.

That would be really cool! ........I still want to eventually get into SKS! 

Mirsguy
Reply #173 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:44 PM

Running Indicators--it would be nice to be able to set these so that they are either in front or behind the icon. Currently, it seems as though they are always in front of the icon.

I just tried to create a custom running indicator. It was a glowing faded ball of light. I thought it would look really cool if the icons of the active programs were "glowing." But when I applied it, the glowing ball covered the icon!

Just a thought...

messiah1
Reply #174 Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:02 PM

Currently, it seems as though they are always in front of the icon.

They are.  It's like an overlay.  Which can actually have a pretty cool effect...ask Zubaz about "Protection".

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #175 Tuesday, August 4, 2009 9:46 PM

How about if OD used bitmaps!

messiah1
Reply #176 Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:50 AM

How about if OD used bitmaps!

How about I cram a couple pounds of poo in your mouth?  I'm just sayin'.

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #177 Wednesday, August 5, 2009 8:21 PM

How about I cram a couple pounds of poo in your mouth?

The bear????....sure, as long as He's barbecued and glazed with honey!

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #178 Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:15 PM

I know that the Foreground was mentioned, I think We talked about it having all four positions....... but what if it had it's own set of margins, like if You needed to tile the background, but the foreground needs to be stretched, or vice versa.....and control over the layer order, if You want the tile image between the background and foreground or on top.

messiah1
Reply #179 Friday, August 7, 2009 6:25 AM

I know that the Foreground was mentioned, I think We talked about it having all four positions....... but what if it had it's own set of margins, like if you needed to tile the background, but the foreground needs to be stretched, or vice versa

The foreground has it's own set of margins already and you can set them just like you would the background images.  If you want to use Tile, put in the TileCenter=1 or TileVCenter=1.  The only problem is not having all four positions.  Very limiting imo.

 

Did you know that you can use TileCenter=1 or TileVCenter=1 on the tabs of tabbed docks? Just slap it on the end of whatever tab you want it on.  Very handy when you have textured tabs.  I've seen alot of tabs that have some cool textures, but then get stretched in the middle and look like shite.  I tried this one time and it worked to my surprise. 

bk13GarbageMan
Reply #180 Friday, August 7, 2009 6:25 PM

The foreground has it's own set of margins already and you can set them just like you would the background images. If you want to use Tile, put in the TileCenter=1 or TileVCenter=1. The only problem is not having all four positions. Very limiting imo.

Cool,  I wasn't too sure.......and I agree about the positions.

Did you know that you can use TileCenter=1 or TileVCenter=1 on the tabs of tabbed docks? Just slap it on the end of whatever tab you want it on. Very handy when you have textured tabs. I've seen alot of tabs that have some cool textures, but then get stretched in the middle and look like shite. I tried this one time and it worked to my surprise.

I just realized it when I did the pressurized docks, used it on the rusty tabs.

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