female skinners
Sunday, September 23, 2007 by Vampothika | Discussion: Community
I am just wondering, are there any master female skinners? and how long will it take before females are recognized as equals as males on this site, and get promoted almost as fast as the males........ As a female, i personally dont believe that we are. I feel that its very hard to be recognized as a serious skinner being female......
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Reply #82 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:24 AM
Ive never looked at gender of a skinner as a basis for if their good or not.... Starone has been and always will be one of my most fave skinners...as well as alexandrie, whose masterful skills I one day hope to replicate.
on a side note:
I would love to see more fluffy skins as im hoping to entice the MRS. in to customizing her desktop.( maybe then she will ease up on "skinning time" complaints)
Reply #83 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:22 AM
promote skins that would appeal to women (i.e. pink (@jafo)
)maybe switch some jargon in the advertising to ensure that women realise it is not a male 'sport'.
how 'bout ensuring that some images of women get onto Stardock's site
try to get some of the women skinners to write reviews etc. It'll let other women know that it's 'their game' too.
approach some common technical/computer sites that women frequent and ask them to promote the product or link to a page stardock would customize toward appealing to these (more of those pink colors (@jafo again)
)If this post comes out really bad, then please blame the makers of the WinCustomize Discussion section of Stardock. My forum posts won't allow me to hit the enter button, which makes it VERY difficult to correct grammar etc...(::insert more excuses here::
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Reply #84 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:44 AM
Reply #85 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:47 AM
maybe switch some jargon in the advertising to ensure that women realise it is not a male 'sport'.
how 'bout ensuring that some images of women get onto Stardock's site
try to get some of the women skinners to write reviews etc. It'll let other women know that it's 'their game' too.
approach some common technical/computer sites that women frequent and ask them to promote the product or link to a page stardock would customize toward appealing to these
Good ideas and most of which can be done by the individual who wants to push skinning to the women of the internet. I think linking back to your personal page at WC on other forums might be a good way to spread the word. Also, anyone can write a forum post or news article about a skin or skinner. (Articles go through moderation though)
It is interesting to me though that not all women want feminine skins and that type of stereotyping might drive just as many women away. My wife like minimal skins more than the "girlie" ones.
Spreading the word about skinning in other forums might be the best start. Link to your WC gallery or the WB top ten gallery when you visit other sites. Post your desktop on other forums as part of your sig ( I like Rumshot for that)
Reply #86 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:12 PM
Thats about the best idea yet. I am sure we can dress up Po and Skinhit to do some undercover work in the ladies forums.
Reply #87 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:17 PM
One of the best things about WinCustomize is that it is largely driven by the community. You folks have the most power when it comes to promoting and encouraging artists on the site. You're also the most powerful marketing force there is when it comes to spreading the word of WinCustomize and skinning to the 'net at large.
Like it has been said, if the community wants to more actively encourage female skinners, the community has to step up and do something about it. This isn't a problem that can be fixed by "someone else" If this is an issue that is important to you, you're the only one you can rely on to promote the issue.
Write articles (and there is NO article moderation queue. all articles are accepted, but only select ones are featured. They have to be well-written and longer than a few sentences to qualify).
Start more community projects. Gather together all the female skinners in a single group and start working on skins and suites. What's stopping you from forming an all-woman skinning studio? MaxStyles could use some competition!
Are you involved in other female-oriented online communities? Get them involved, try and bring in more people to fuel and promote the cause.
My point is that if it's an important issue to you, you need to start working to improve the situation too.
We will always officially promote users based on their contributions and the quality of their work. Being male, female, disabled, healthy, European, Asian, American etc makes absolutely no difference to us. Items selected for featuring on the front page, in periodic round-ups etc are picked based on their quality. We work based on achievement, not based on minority profile. We also do not work under the idea that people are owed any rank or title. It's not something anyone is entitled to, it is something that is earned. No one wants to be "given" a promotion, they want to earn it. That's how we're going to continue to operate too.
Reply #88 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:32 PM
Reply #89 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:10 PM
While we're at it, why not do special promotions to increase the activity of the following groups:
American Skinners, Afro American Skinners, Chinese Skinners, Bald Skinners, Fat Skinners, Skinny Skinners, Redheaded Skinners, Blue Haired and Blond Eyed Skinners, Skinners with spots, and Skinners with Stipes....
As far as I knew, this and most all other skinning communities are for SKINNERS. No distiction is necessary for enjoyment.
Reply #90 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:11 PM
A brilliant idea.
Reply #91 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:31 PM
They seem to do a good enough job of that all by themslves
Here's an idea to attract the ladies.. a Pinup calender featuring all the popular male skinners in their tighty whitey's free with purchase of WB
I know..
Reply #92 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:36 PM
Another way to help is for Master Skinners to take on apprentices and help them along the way. Like Jedi's.
Reply #93 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:51 PM
without me! they will go back home and never back here if i'm there Reply #94 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:54 PM
Reply #96 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:59 PM
- I thought the idea was to attract the ladies, not repulse them
Reply #97 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 6:58 PM
Seems like I remember collecting this info some twenty odd years ago. Wonder whatever happened to that apprentice???
Reply #98 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 6:59 PM
Anyway, I had a look at what comes with applications like ObjectDock and Object Desktop (Theme Manager) and guess what? No "pinks" ship with either of the above programs (from what I downloaded in July/Aug anyway). How do you expect women to fall for programs that ship with mainly 'manly' skins?
Personally, I have a website about multiple Operating Systems. I'll upload a bit there about ObjectDock and Object Desktop with links back to Stardock, BUT I refuse to download and apply a 'pink' skin. If anyone HAS such a desktop, perhaps they could put a screenshot up here for me to use?
Thanks and regards,
Daniel
Reply #99 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:06 PM
Reply #100 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:19 PM
) And I should be OK for getting images of 'pink' skins...I'll just screenshot whatever comes out in the Stardock Central skin browser...and add big signs stating, 'I DO NOT USE A PINK DESKTOP' ...(I'm certainly NOT chauvinist, just believe that there are inherent differences that ought to be emphasised, NOT denigrated...whatever...my opinions are like every other undergraduate's...infallible
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Reply #81 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:22 AM
Huh?...what about Bridgets and Josephines and Sandras and...