female skinners

Sunday, September 23, 2007 by Vampothika | Discussion: Community

I am just wondering, are there any master female skinners?  and how long will it take before females are recognized as equals as males on this site, and get promoted almost as fast as the males........  As a female, i personally dont believe that we are.  I feel that its very hard to be recognized as a serious skinner being female......

 

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Lantec
Reply #61 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:11 AM
nevermind, I was slower than Fairyy~


most of us are
NightTrainthedark
Reply #62 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:11 AM
Perhaps the only problem here at WC is they might need to promote more ' female ' type content to bring back the women that once came to this site daily or to attract new female membership.


Affirmative action makes everyone a loser.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #63 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:13 AM
NP Fairy,it merely a statement to show Kitty I think her assumptions about gender here are wrong.

I didnt need someone interpreting(and expanding upon)my thoughts.(who said ANYTHING about leaving or skinning in a certain style just to please the boys or that a feminine skinning style was somehow inferior?)  

Speaking of lady skinners..I really miss Keila,Chrissy and Xerraire.  
Fairyy~
Reply #64 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:20 AM
most of us are


its all in the wings ...

Affirmative action makes everyone a loser.


True - but Im just wondering why so many women have disappeared. Is it because there are so few skins left that appeal to women in a certain age group ? I really don't know.


I didnt need someone interpreting(and expanding upon)my thoughts.(who said ANYTHING about leaving or skinning in a certain style just to please the boys or that a feminine skinning style was somehow inferior?)


I also got the same impression about your statement that Jazzymjr did - that was why I asked for clarification. I know sometimes what I type and what my brain is saying come out in 2 different forms. That was why I asked you to elaborate.



I.R. Brainiac
Reply #65 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:23 AM
I aint angry at Jazzy(or you)...something in the way I phrased it must have hit a nerve.     
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #66 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:30 AM
Even big ol' hairy ugly men can think pink sometimes.  

kashingdo1
Reply #67 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:39 AM
kittymalone you can sell in MaxStyles.com. I saw your name is listed at there. MaxStyles.com - Now Open! https://forums.wincustomize.com/index.aspx?forumid=189&aid=155170

I.R. Braniac, Aroche, Basj, Gef are selling at there. Before has good,you can sell MaxStyles.com and when time you became master,and sell here.   
Jafo
Reply #68 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:49 AM

It's generally accurate to state that more than 50% of the planet is of the 'fairer sex', so, if one extrapolates it's possible that more than 50% of people likely to want to skin their computers/environment are also female.

Reality seems to have it that that is not quite the case, though I don't think any definitive survey or head-counting has ever been done on the stats....

It is at least HOPED that what ends up as skins provided for the receptive community/public is representational....supply/demand.

I see no legitimacy regarding a perception of inferiority of what is quoted as 'girlie skins'. They are/SHOULD be seen no differently to any other categorized 'variety', eg black/dark or light....or monochromatic/grey ones.

Discriminating between/amongst skin types is as problematic/absurd as any other form of discrimination.  Personal preferences affect what a person downloads.  They do not/WILL NOT affect the site's reception/acceptance of them.

I like grey ones.  I'm pathologically TIRED of blue ones....[there's 16.7 million frequencies of light/colour that we're supposed to be able to distinguish....why must so many [skins] be blue?  But that's me].  Everyone has personal taste....and as I said, there'll be a considerable number who really 'GO' for the ones considered 'feminine', just as there'll be people grabbing everything 'Halloween' [something that leaves a non-US person [me] quite cold].

The history of skinning is well highlighted with female skinners.  Unfortunately, as with their male brethren....they come and they also go.

Wincustomize.com isn't interested in genders....we're interested in Skinners....

 

Jafo
Reply #69 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:57 AM

Even big ol' hairy ugly men can think pink sometimes

Geez....I'D use that......[not blue, see? ] ....

jazzymjr
Reply #70 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:03 AM
I didnt need someone interpreting(and expanding upon)my thoughts.(who said ANYTHING about leaving or skinning in a certain style just to please the boys or that a feminine skinning style was somehow inferior?)


IR, I'm glad you clarified what you meant. Like, Fairyy~, I too, feel like I am penalized at times for skinning in a feminine style. Sometimes I get so discouraged, that I have thought of leaving. But, if I do that, it would be like me cutting off my nose to spite my face. I was just expressing my thoughts. I did not infer that anyone here was trying to get rid of me.

WC is a great site, and I have made quite a few friends here. I also have received a lot of support, espcially when I first started making skins.

Even big ol' hairy ugly men can think pink sometimes.


LOL! Re-coloring a skin pink doesn't make the skin feminine, IR! Nice try, though!   
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #71 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:05 AM
Geez....I'D use that......[not blue, see? ] ....


Comes in grey too..  
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #72 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:13 AM
LOL! Re-coloring a skin pink doesn't make the skin feminine, IR! Nice try, though!


As long as it dosnt turn me gay...DOH!Now I'm gonna get it again.  (disclaimer-I,in no way,advocate or not advocate turning...er,being gay...I mean,uh,er...Ima get out of here now)  (before I start in on religeon)    
WOM
Reply #73 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:20 AM
As there are only a few female skinners, it is hrd to give examples but it doesn't mater how a female skinners skins,  Girly or not, its like Jafo said, its the preference of the downloader.  Example, starone is female and most of her skins are called girly.  She get a ton of downloads.  Shes on the HOF.  Used to be a lot higher but she eliminated a bunch of skins that totaled about 1.5 million downloads.  So when you eliminate, you lose that count.  Point being, how do you think she got that many downloads making girly skins.  A lot of men downloaded them.  Go read the comments.  Gender doesn't make a difference on promotiong, downloads or anything else that matters.  Its all in how an individual precieves it.
Dabih
Reply #74 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:59 AM
If I get Jafo's message right...he means that just because a skin is 'girly' doesn't make it inferior (I hate interpreting). If in fact Jafo's opinion was that pink or blue make no difference then I beg leave to differ. Somehow I can't see my friends coming over for a LAN party and me booting into a hot pink desktop...

Jafo
Reply #75 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:03 AM

Somehow I can't see my friends coming over for a LAN party and me booting into a hot pink desktop...

Oh come on now....live on the edge....

Dabih
Reply #76 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:09 AM
That's not in my comfort zone, sorry  

ZubaZ
Reply #77 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:11 AM
I'd still like to hear some ideas (maybe in a seperate post) on how to attract more female skinners.

I would happily lend *my* efforts to that effort.
Philly0381
Reply #78 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:05 AM
My personal opinion is that once you do try to attract one particular segment it is a start down a very slippery slope. The only way is down and it is impossible to turn around and to get back to where you were.

Make sure that all rulls and proceudures that are established for anything are fair and just and without thought as to whom you are looking at. That's all that can be done.

There will always be someone that will feel they were over looked for some reason. That will never change not matter what you do. By the way, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. To me that shows that the person cares and wants to be part of the community.

I wrote this in another post but, "Life is like babies, it doesn't come with an instructional manuel".

Have a great day.  
ArileenDesign
Reply #79 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:05 AM
I'd still like to hear some ideas (maybe in a seperate post) on how to attract more female skinners.

I would happily lend *my* efforts to that effort.


i think the main idea is WomenSkinners here need to be themself and skin for fun if they love what they made and speaks around about that to others (men and women) THE word is launched: You can be a woman and make skin and get fun with that as a hobby or more.
Again the problem is not the numbers of download or ratings it's more being happy with what you do.
If you are happy to skin and tell it you'll import some more people in skinning community and maybe more females.
In the same time, If you are happy to skin and be a part of the community day after day no mater how good/feminine/masculine/..../Gothic/.... yours skins are. Cause if you hang up in forums in helping around in same times as you make skins (not only on WC) (that's what i call being active) people will go on your page to see who you are and look at your works to see it also.
All is there i think: Be happy, have fun, help others, skin for YOU as well as for others, Speak around and express that you are happy in the skinning community.
ZubaZ
Reply #80 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:18 AM
I agree with Quentin  that people usually arrive and stay organically but having said that . . if anyone had any ideas to attract women/youngsters/Marians/whoever to WC and skinning I'd be happy to jump in.

Each of us as individuals should "recruit" our peers as best we can.  If *we* can't sell this stuff, no one can. 

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