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scorpio-logic
Reply #2 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:52 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:52 PM
I get some of the same symptoms, NT. Especially with scrollbars, which mine just plain become invisible. Also, when adding text fonts on two occasions, the fonts for the entire skin disappear from SKS. Even installing fonts will not fix. When starting a "new" UIS2 skin to create, or when loading a skin within SKS, it wants to delete all "normal" fonts and colors and all "focus" fonts and colors. This is annoying because I already deleted them the last time I opened the skin, which is one I am working on. The only fix to this has seemed to be to save after each and every deletion, then zipping the skin (finished or not) for distribution.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #4 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:21 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:21 PM
Thanks Bichur.
scorpio logic...I have experienced all the things you mentioned. I wasn't sure about the fonts but I am now that someone else mentioned it.
I got an email from a little birdie (Thanks again little birdie
)
It was suggested that I exclude Skinstudio in windowblinds exlusions. Skinstudio was already in the list so I figured what the heck, lets give it a try. I removed SKS from the list and everything seems to be working better. No crashes yet. It seems to have cleared up the font problem too. Go figure.
Still a slow startup though. Thats no biggie as long as I remember to wait. It's not as easy as you think when you have opened Skinstudio a million times before.
scorpio logic...I have experienced all the things you mentioned. I wasn't sure about the fonts but I am now that someone else mentioned it.
I got an email from a little birdie (Thanks again little birdie
)It was suggested that I exclude Skinstudio in windowblinds exlusions. Skinstudio was already in the list so I figured what the heck, lets give it a try. I removed SKS from the list and everything seems to be working better. No crashes yet. It seems to have cleared up the font problem too. Go figure.
Still a slow startup though. Thats no biggie as long as I remember to wait. It's not as easy as you think when you have opened Skinstudio a million times before.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #5 Monday, December 26, 2005 4:21 PM
Reply #5 Monday, December 26, 2005 4:21 PM
Now that the Holiday is over and I am back into Skinstudio..
Nothing has changed. SKS still crashes very frequently. The newest build of Windowblinds doesn't seem to have any effect. It is quite slow changing skins now.
I am losing my scrollbars more frequently. A reboot, load XP default skin and then back to my skin fixes it. My taskbar goes 3/4 classic. The areas where quick launch and taskbar buttons changes to classic. The start button and system tray stay skinned.
Would appreciate any feedback.
Nothing has changed. SKS still crashes very frequently. The newest build of Windowblinds doesn't seem to have any effect. It is quite slow changing skins now.
I am losing my scrollbars more frequently. A reboot, load XP default skin and then back to my skin fixes it. My taskbar goes 3/4 classic. The areas where quick launch and taskbar buttons changes to classic. The start button and system tray stay skinned.
Would appreciate any feedback.
pinchecl
Reply #6 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:16 AM
Reply #6 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:16 AM
Pfieuw, Thought it was me NT. Having the same problems with SKS. WB not sure. Sometimes my topbar is back to default but minimizing and maximizing restores it so I'm not sure. Found out opening the uis file using the explorer works a little faster but still freezes up after a while.....no good 
NightTrainthedark
Reply #7 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:11 AM
Reply #7 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:11 AM
Yeah, I lose the top bar also Cliff. Just clicking on it brings it back but that's the first sign that SKS is gonna crash on me.
In case this helps... active and inactive windows are not painting properly. A window will be partially painted until I move a window over it and then it will be ok. It paints very sloppily. 1/2 active and 1/2 inactive until a window is passed over it.
Quite often when selecting a color using the "capture color" tool, I get a not enough memory warning and I have to close out SKS using task manager.
Font setting are still not being saved when saving a skin.
In case this helps... active and inactive windows are not painting properly. A window will be partially painted until I move a window over it and then it will be ok. It paints very sloppily. 1/2 active and 1/2 inactive until a window is passed over it.
Quite often when selecting a color using the "capture color" tool, I get a not enough memory warning and I have to close out SKS using task manager.
Font setting are still not being saved when saving a skin.
SkinStudio
Reply #8 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:19 AM
Reply #8 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:19 AM
there were no changes in SkinStudio recently that would warrant this kind of behaviour.
The problem you are describing happened to me sometimes when I was using firefox which seems to be leaking like there was no tomorrow but since I switched to Opera all my resource problems have stopped. Can you tell me if you're running Firefox on par with SkinStudio? Also thanks for reporting the depraciates in the default skins. I'll correct the problem and we should have a new build as soon as Kris gets the cxhance after coming back from holiday.
The problem you are describing happened to me sometimes when I was using firefox which seems to be leaking like there was no tomorrow but since I switched to Opera all my resource problems have stopped. Can you tell me if you're running Firefox on par with SkinStudio? Also thanks for reporting the depraciates in the default skins. I'll correct the problem and we should have a new build as soon as Kris gets the cxhance after coming back from holiday.
eieio
Reply #9 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:02 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:02 AM
Ugg! Just when I thought most of the bugs had been worked out and I was about ready to try this beast.
Think I'll hold off a bit longer.
I'm not trying to bring up the warez thing, NT, but it's a bit disheartening to hear some of the same symptoms being described for legit users as the hacked version users got.
Think I'll hold off a bit longer.
I'm not trying to bring up the warez thing, NT, but it's a bit disheartening to hear some of the same symptoms being described for legit users as the hacked version users got.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #10 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:16 PM
Reply #10 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:16 PM
Yeah, it is disheartening Pic. I just went through a reformat becuase something went very wrong. I use all legit stuff but it did have some similarities. Normally I would dump the software and walk away but I trust Stardock to correct any problems. Besides, I tried quitting skinning, It didn't take. 
Skinstudio... I only use Internet Explorer 6. No other browsers installed. However, there may be a link between IE and Skinstudio. I had my hunches that opening IE with SKS running was adding to SKS crashing. It is only a hunch based on the timing of the crashes. Excluding SKS in WB options doesn't help at all.
Skinstudio... I only use Internet Explorer 6. No other browsers installed. However, there may be a link between IE and Skinstudio. I had my hunches that opening IE with SKS running was adding to SKS crashing. It is only a hunch based on the timing of the crashes. Excluding SKS in WB options doesn't help at all.
eieio
Reply #11 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:30 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:30 PM
Ouch ... a reformat. Know what you mean, had to do one myself a while back, but that's an unfortunate result occasionally of running beta software.
SkinStudio, when will we see the final (non-beta) release. I think I would like to wait on that build before I install. A first for that .. I usually always install the betas. But you know what they say: "Once bitten, twice shy".
SkinStudio, when will we see the final (non-beta) release. I think I would like to wait on that build before I install. A first for that .. I usually always install the betas. But you know what they say: "Once bitten, twice shy".
NightTrainthedark
Reply #12 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:12 AM
Reply #12 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:12 AM
bump (cause I don't know what else to do)
brewman
Reply #13 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:53 AM
Reply #13 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:53 AM
WB 5 has been running pretty well for me, but I really
dread using SKS anymore. Nigh Train, I have been experiencing
the exact same problems you describe running SKS.
At this point, Notepad seems to be the only solution for me.
Adam needs to fix SKS .... the sooner, the better.
dread using SKS anymore. Nigh Train, I have been experiencing
the exact same problems you describe running SKS.
At this point, Notepad seems to be the only solution for me.
Adam needs to fix SKS .... the sooner, the better.
brewman
Reply #14 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:04 AM
Reply #14 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:04 AM
We should ask the question .... Is there anyone using the latest builds
of SKS that can say they are NOT having the problems Night Train described
above (crashes, slows to a crawl, doesn't paint properly, etc)?
of SKS that can say they are NOT having the problems Night Train described
above (crashes, slows to a crawl, doesn't paint properly, etc)?
scorpio-logic
Reply #15 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:38 AM
Reply #15 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:38 AM
Excellent question, brewman! I'll wait with you on the answer.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #16 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:36 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:36 PM
How many skins have you got open and how much memory do you have?...
I've just been messing with SKS for over an hour, having numerous skins open, making changes, saving, applying etc and cannot reproduce any of the problems noted. However...
I noticed each skin open added 30Mb to memory, and once I had about five skins open just moving the cursor around caused my CPU to get to 50%+. I also note I cannot exclude SKS from being skinned... so maybe this is a WB5 problem with painting the SKS UI???
NightTrainthedark
Reply #17 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:43 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:43 PM
Wizop Fuzzy..99% of the time I only have 1 skin open. Memory is not an issue but it does seem as if something is leaking. I am looking for anything as I continue to work. Knowing what to look for is a different story.
SKS was by default included in the WB exclusions but still continued to paint SKS. I removed it from the exclusion list and then re-added it and it stopped painting SKS. It was classic and so was photoshop and paint shop pro. SKS still continues to crash though. Odd thing is , in the past I have added or removed SKS from the exclusion list and there was never any change. Now, for the first time (that I remember) it paints classic when added to the list.
SKS was by default included in the WB exclusions but still continued to paint SKS. I removed it from the exclusion list and then re-added it and it stopped painting SKS. It was classic and so was photoshop and paint shop pro. SKS still continues to crash though. Odd thing is , in the past I have added or removed SKS from the exclusion list and there was never any change. Now, for the first time (that I remember) it paints classic when added to the list.
brewman
Reply #18 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:38 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:38 PM
I usually have photoshop up with SKS.
One skin active ... sometimes two .... three is a no-no.
System memory not an issue.
One skin active ... sometimes two .... three is a no-no.
System memory not an issue.
sleepydawg
Reply #19 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:31 PM
Reply #19 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:31 PM
Been wanting to try my hand at skinning, but SKS has been crashing on me since I bought Object Desktop two years ago, Funny, did not have trouble till I paid out the cash. I understand this sould have nothing to do with SKS. Still, I am happy with OD. Thanks a bunch to brewman and others. Still I would like to try my hand at skinning WB.
Koasati
Reply #20 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:59 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:59 PM
I'm running WB4.6, and SkS 4.90, build 1084. I haven't seen any 'problems'.... but I really haven't used it much lately. There is the one thing though........ it takes much, much longer to load a skin in SkS, than it used to.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:20 PM