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NightTrainthedark
Reply #22 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:34 PM
Reply #22 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:34 PM
Running the Aura skin, I open my skin in Skinstudio. I apply my skin through SKS and everything is ok.The scrollbars come back, the taskbar is normal, etc. Applying through windowblinds configuration does not fix it. The problems remain. 
Sorry to be a pain in the butt guys. I don't want to be.. I just want to get some of these things fixed so I can go on with life as usual.
Sorry to be a pain in the butt guys. I don't want to be.. I just want to get some of these things fixed so I can go on with life as usual.
SkinStudio
Reply #24 Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:08 AM
Reply #24 Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:08 AM
I can confirm the problem with the slow opening which indeed is a bug that was introduced in the last build, other than this I cannot really reproduce the crasheds here. I'll keep trying though.
Also the SkinStudio not being skinned is not a problem with it itself. It's WB that's painting those. so it looks like it gets corrupted somewhere. Can you check if it's skin specific or if it happens with any skin for you. Often problems like that tend to be related to some skins errors like overlapping or negative margins etc. The taskbar being unskinned is definitely not a SkinStudio bug.
I hope we can have a new SKS build up right after the New Year.
Also the SkinStudio not being skinned is not a problem with it itself. It's WB that's painting those. so it looks like it gets corrupted somewhere. Can you check if it's skin specific or if it happens with any skin for you. Often problems like that tend to be related to some skins errors like overlapping or negative margins etc. The taskbar being unskinned is definitely not a SkinStudio bug.
I hope we can have a new SKS build up right after the New Year.
yrag
Reply #25 Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:18 AM
Reply #25 Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:18 AM
I really didn't give the graphic drivers much thought until I saw the image in #21. For what it's worth, nVidia series 8 drivers trash PSP and for all I know, SKS. The last good drivers without the nVidia bug is 77.77. For anyone who is having problems and wants to try it: ftp://download1.nvidia.com/Windows/
NightTrainthedark
Reply #26 Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:32 AM
Reply #26 Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:32 AM
I had the 81.98 drivers installed. Rolled back to 77.77 and so far everything is working fine. An hour and a half without crahses or anything wierd happening with the scrollbars, etc. Thank you, thank you, thank you, yrag and Adam.
It's good to know a fix will be up soon for the slow starting of SKS. It;s not an issue now that it stays working.
There is still some odd painting of the active and inactive non-per pixel window frames (every skin). They don't change from acitve to inactive until a window passes over them.
Fingers crossed there is no more issues. I'll probably be running SKS all day so I will surely post if there are any issues.
It's good to know a fix will be up soon for the slow starting of SKS. It;s not an issue now that it stays working.
There is still some odd painting of the active and inactive non-per pixel window frames (every skin). They don't change from acitve to inactive until a window passes over them.
Fingers crossed there is no more issues. I'll probably be running SKS all day so I will surely post if there are any issues.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #27 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:45 AM
Reply #27 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:45 AM
Ah, I'm using 77.77 - explains why mine works without crashing 
brewman
Reply #28 Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:15 AM
Reply #28 Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:15 AM
I installed the 77.77 drivers this morning (was using 77.72).
I'll give this a go today .. hope it works!
I'll give this a go today .. hope it works!
NightTrainthedark
Reply #29 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:04 PM
Reply #29 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:04 PM
SKS is still crashing. 
It was working good for awhile and then it started to act up again. No problems with the scrollbars and such at least. Ugggh.
It was working good for awhile and then it started to act up again. No problems with the scrollbars and such at least. Ugggh.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #31 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:15 PM
Reply #31 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:15 PM
No, not really. I have 1 game I haven't used in weeks.
yrag
Reply #32 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:20 PM
Reply #32 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:20 PM
Good......try these: http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1292 They fix the aforementioned problems, unfortunately, they play havoc with some games. Use a driver cleaner when you're doing these installs/un-installs. If you don't have it or need some guidance, let me know.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #33 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:39 PM
Reply #33 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:39 PM
Thanks gary...for the millionth time. I got those drivers installed now. I will give it a good test to see what happens.
This video card has never worked right. I cannot get my dual monitor setup to have matching monitors. The colors are off between them and it is going to put me in the hospital. I should just breakdown and get a new one. Dual DVI port cards are hard to find. Next time I won't cheap out.
I got those drivers installed now. I will give it a good test to see what happens. This video card has never worked right. I cannot get my dual monitor setup to have matching monitors. The colors are off between them and it is going to put me in the hospital. I should just breakdown and get a new one. Dual DVI port cards are hard to find. Next time I won't cheap out.
yrag
Reply #34 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:47 PM
Reply #34 Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:47 PM
......so if we blow up your card, I'll be doing you a favor.... 
You are using a DVI adapter...yes?
You are using a DVI adapter...yes?
NightTrainthedark
Reply #35 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:05 PM
Reply #35 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:05 PM
No, should I be? My current card has dual DVI ports and my conversation with PNY support , they blamed the monitors. It isn't the monitors. I returned 2 monitors already and they all do the same thing.
yrag
Reply #36 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:11 PM
...why doesn't that surprise me.........
What monitors and what flavor graphic card?
Reply #36 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:11 PM
| conversation with PNY support , they blamed the monitors |
...why doesn't that surprise me.........
What monitors and what flavor graphic card?
NightTrainthedark
Reply #37 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:19 PM
Reply #37 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:19 PM
Nvidia GEForce 6600GT by PNY
2 HP F1903 (LCD) monitors.
HP Pavilion 753n PC
Xp home SP2.
Thanks for giving it some thought. Wanna buy a cheap card? I got 2, the other ( ATI radeon ???) was how I found out I needed dual DVI ports. D'oh.
2 HP F1903 (LCD) monitors.
HP Pavilion 753n PC
Xp home SP2.
Thanks for giving it some thought. Wanna buy a cheap card? I got 2, the other ( ATI radeon ???) was how I found out I needed dual DVI ports. D'oh.
yrag
Reply #38 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:32 PM
Reply #38 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:32 PM
I certainly don't see any problem with the monitors (contrast/resolution/response are all within acceptable range). That's the good news....the bad is that graphic card just doesn't have enough juice, although it's shortcomings should be barely perceivable. You can try two things: switch the plugs. If you get the same result on the other monitor, it's your card. Another is to unplug the secondary and use the monitor analog connection and the DVI to ANG adapter that came with the card and see if it corrects the color disparity.
yrag
Reply #39 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:49 PM
Reply #39 Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:49 PM
Since Jafo hasn't blown anything up today.........yet......I have extra time to ponder this. If I remember correctly, PNY puts two DVI to VGA adapters in their packages....switch them both to VGA (analog) and see what you get. With AGP you're not losing much with the lack of digital.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #40 Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:00 PM
Reply #40 Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:00 PM
I never even thought to try that. I do have the 2 adaptors but it might take some carpentry to reroute the wires. I will give it a try first thing in the morning. I really appreciate it. Something tells me I will be at the store at 9:00 getting a new card. A Radeon X1800XT is way overkill but I am stupid like that.
BTW..SKS crashed twice in the first half hour but has held for about 45 minutes now.
I will give it a try first thing in the morning. I really appreciate it. Something tells me I will be at the store at 9:00 getting a new card. A Radeon X1800XT is way overkill but I am stupid like that. BTW..SKS crashed twice in the first half hour but has held for about 45 minutes now.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:30 PM