Haven't we "Over Burden" Our Skinners
Just felt that we have
Wednesday, May 18, 2005 by BX | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hi folks!!!
Since last few days, I am feeling as we have "Over Burderned" our skinners.
For instance, in good old days of win9x and 2000 era, our skinners just had lesser components to customize. They just had to go for start button, task bar, menu bar, title bar, some buttons, and scrollbars (forgive if I have missed something). But now, just imagine how many components they have for customization.
In the same tredition, there were very few icons which needed to be customized but now a "Good" package should have atleast 50+ icons and bust must have over 70 customized icons.
Needs for customizing DX has increased too. Lots of gedgets, objects, layers, and scripting. Logon Studio, cursorXP, Boot screens, and right click have emerged as well ...
What do you folks say about it. ....
Since last few days, I am feeling as we have "Over Burderned" our skinners.
For instance, in good old days of win9x and 2000 era, our skinners just had lesser components to customize. They just had to go for start button, task bar, menu bar, title bar, some buttons, and scrollbars (forgive if I have missed something). But now, just imagine how many components they have for customization.
In the same tredition, there were very few icons which needed to be customized but now a "Good" package should have atleast 50+ icons and bust must have over 70 customized icons.
Needs for customizing DX has increased too. Lots of gedgets, objects, layers, and scripting. Logon Studio, cursorXP, Boot screens, and right click have emerged as well ...
What do you folks say about it. ....
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Tarkus
Reply #42 Friday, May 20, 2005 5:08 PM
Depends on if you're skinning for public acceptance or skinning for yourself, and just making your work available to the public.
Again, something that's done completely voluntarily as a hobby cannot be considered a burden.
Reply #42 Friday, May 20, 2005 5:08 PM
| Well according to the comments on the skins you upload, you have to skin everything. |
Depends on if you're skinning for public acceptance or skinning for yourself, and just making your work available to the public.
Again, something that's done completely voluntarily as a hobby cannot be considered a burden.
Jafo
Reply #44 Friday, May 20, 2005 7:15 PM
Reply #44 Friday, May 20, 2005 7:15 PM
If you have no intention to skin 'everything' the best idea would be to make specific note of that in the skin description...caveat emptor.
No-one can then moan that it 'must' be completed, only that they might 'like' it to be...
WOM
Reply #46 Friday, May 20, 2005 9:13 PM
Reply #46 Friday, May 20, 2005 9:13 PM
That would be nice if they listed that in the description, so those that don't have unlimited download could save it for something else, and for those that want certain things skinned. 
unckle fester
Reply #47 Friday, May 20, 2005 11:05 PM
Reply #47 Friday, May 20, 2005 11:05 PM
shure theres a lot of parts to a skin but i like it that way. i think that it would be great if there where more things to skin or more ways to modify them. i'm allways thinking that it would be nice to be able to change this or modify that but it's just not part of the program yet. yet being the key word here. more is good if you like options!
i agree with what was said up there some where. if your not happy with all the things that are needed to do a Full skin then just don't do them. icons just aren't my thing so i just don't do them but i know thats where i need to work the hardest so in time i'll work on them as i have done in the past. i love animations but most of my skins don't have them and why is that you ask? it's because the trial ran out on the software to do them. i just bought that programs rights so i'll be doing them from now on though.
i like to work on graphics and skinning is a great place to PLAY with creating them because when your done you have something tangable to show for the effort. when your creating a skin it's a lot of effort and, when your trying to make your next skin you have to do it with out duplicating what you did in the last skin and thats a chalenge when you start with the same basic design.
what amazes me most is the part where some one claimed some kind of ownership of us and nobody said anything about that!
haven't we "Over Burdened" our skinners? not this one!
i agree with what was said up there some where. if your not happy with all the things that are needed to do a Full skin then just don't do them. icons just aren't my thing so i just don't do them but i know thats where i need to work the hardest so in time i'll work on them as i have done in the past. i love animations but most of my skins don't have them and why is that you ask? it's because the trial ran out on the software to do them. i just bought that programs rights so i'll be doing them from now on though.
i like to work on graphics and skinning is a great place to PLAY with creating them because when your done you have something tangable to show for the effort. when your creating a skin it's a lot of effort and, when your trying to make your next skin you have to do it with out duplicating what you did in the last skin and thats a chalenge when you start with the same basic design.
what amazes me most is the part where some one claimed some kind of ownership of us and nobody said anything about that!
haven't we "Over Burdened" our skinners? not this one!
Z71
Reply #48 Friday, May 20, 2005 11:27 PM
Reply #48 Friday, May 20, 2005 11:27 PM
I have found, that from the beginning of adding toolbars and animations, that if they aren't included people ask "Are you going to finish it?"
I feel, if a WB has toolbars and animations, you should count it as a bonus.
Some times it takes almost as long as making a WB.
And ~Fairy, I've made a couple for the ladies, because my girlfriend kept complaining that I didn't make any that were for the (girls).
I feel, if a WB has toolbars and animations, you should count it as a bonus.
Some times it takes almost as long as making a WB.
And ~Fairy, I've made a couple for the ladies, because my girlfriend kept complaining that I didn't make any that were for the (girls).
joeKnowledge
Reply #49 Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:47 PM
Reply #49 Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:47 PM
Reply to #42 and 43:
Your right.
So guess what? I'm going to do just that. I have a plethra of unfinished skins that I think someone could finish or make additions to. I'll put it in the comments and add the GNU (or whatever) contract so that anyone is free to finish skinning the skin... now if it only makes it through moderation... LOL
Your right.
So guess what? I'm going to do just that. I have a plethra of unfinished skins that I think someone could finish or make additions to. I'll put it in the comments and add the GNU (or whatever) contract so that anyone is free to finish skinning the skin... now if it only makes it through moderation... LOL
KeithMacDonald
Reply #50 Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:46 PM
Reply #50 Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:46 PM
I wouldnt consider it over burdening... just think of it as a really good project to work on. Icons, for example, are easy to make (sometimes they are a pain, and yes, coming up with a theme is a bit of a pain as well), and althought they have a lot of components, what if skinners enjoy making them? You only complain about it if you are a baby, literally. Just my 2 cents!
BX
Reply #51 Sunday, May 22, 2005 5:47 AM
Nice idea btw why not to add a GNU Skins Section/sub section ... ?
Reply #51 Sunday, May 22, 2005 5:47 AM
| So guess what? I'm going to do just that. I have a plethra of unfinished skins that I think someone could finish or make additions to. I'll put it in the comments and add the GNU (or whatever) contract so that anyone is free to finish skinning the skin... now if it only makes it through moderation... LOL |
Nice idea btw why not to add a GNU Skins Section/sub section ... ?
Fairyy~
Reply #53 Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:05 AM
~I know you have and so have many others. That really wasn't my point at all. Most didn't really get my point. I never was complaining about the skins. 50% can be altered and recolored. Most of my " woman " comments had only stemmed from previous questions and or compliments I have made that had been ignored at other times. So it made me wonder why it was ignored? Was it because im a woman or because I have no Title before my name...well....unless you count my " squiggle "
But...I will continue to compliment each skinner because they work hard...and are kind enough to share their tallent..and again, as far as skinning everything... Im happy with a skinned taskbar and a start menu..the rest is just " gravey " and how much gravey is put on..is up to the skinner.
Reply #53 Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:05 AM
Z71:And ~Fairy, I've made a couple for the ladies, because my girlfriend kept complaining that I didn't make any that were for the (girls) |
~I know you have and so have many others. That really wasn't my point at all. Most didn't really get my point. I never was complaining about the skins. 50% can be altered and recolored. Most of my " woman " comments had only stemmed from previous questions and or compliments I have made that had been ignored at other times. So it made me wonder why it was ignored? Was it because im a woman or because I have no Title before my name...well....unless you count my " squiggle "
But...I will continue to compliment each skinner because they work hard...and are kind enough to share their tallent..and again, as far as skinning everything... Im happy with a skinned taskbar and a start menu..the rest is just " gravey " and how much gravey is put on..is up to the skinner.
Zach21
Reply #54 Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:16 AM
Reply #54 Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:16 AM
I think people who skin should work together. They could combine their stuff and make relly cool packages.
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Reply #41 Friday, May 20, 2005 4:39 PM
Well according to the comments on the skins you upload, you have to skin everything.
I know the graphics section of this site, you can upload 'unfinished skins', but I really think there should be a section or a checkbox per section on not fully skinned items (as well as allow others to finish it since they want to comment on how it is not finished)