Always-On-Top

Should be called Sometimes On Top

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 by funkyste | Discussion: ObjectDock

Is there any way to make sure my object dock doesn't go behind other windows. It's set to Always On Top but even then sometimes it disappears behind other windows for no reason, and I have to de-select Alwas On Top and then select it again to get it to come back to the front. Anyone else have this problem?
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mortum
Reply #1 Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:32 PM
I have same problem too. OD disappears behind maximized IE.
SlothMonkey
Reply #2 Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:13 PM
Any update on this....it's getting very annoying. So much OD+ may have to go
weshaggard
Reply #3 Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:52 PM
I have the same problem and would very much like a fix. When is th next version of ObjectDock comming out?
Silver66
Reply #4 Monday, August 22, 2005 5:11 PM
I have the same problem with Object Dock Plus v1.2, WinXP SP2, and IE6
SoopahMan
Reply #5 Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:46 PM
Same problem

Object Dock 1.2
WinXP SP2
Dell Dimension 4600

Object Dock 1.1 had the exact same problem.

This guy apparently is also having this problem:
https://forums.stardock.com/?ForumID=176&AID=85960

If StarDock is trying to sell this product, they should at least get the free version of their software to work well. This bug is non-stop and drives me freakin crazy. I'd consider upgrading for the pay-for version, but if they can't even debug this simpler Object Dock, why would I pay for something more complicated?
Bichur
Reply #6 Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:09 PM
I'm using the free 1.2 but I haven't had this issue yet. When I put it on top, it stays on top. Usually, I have it on autohide.
r7yea
Reply #7 Monday, October 31, 2005 1:46 PM

It's the same situation here, although intermittent, but always during the day at one point or another I end up minimizing IE and closing OD, maximizing IE and re-opening OD to keep it on top. It's one of my most used apps and I would also upgrade if this glitch was addressed.


Robert

SoopahMan
Reply #8 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 12:22 PM
This issue might relate to how specific programs behave, though I'm not sure what about that behavior it would be.

Firefox and Eclipse (an open source Java development program) are the 2 most common to cover up ObjectDock for me. Eclipse does it constantly... every time I run a JUnit Unit Test in it, this bug occurs.
Hydronic
Reply #9 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 11:09 PM
Citizen SoopahMan: Do you have a customized icon for eclipse? If so, could you please point me in its direction?

Sorry for publicly messaging you like this but i dont know of any other way to contact you.
milksama
Reply #10 Thursday, November 3, 2005 11:18 AM

I haven't run into the issue yet, myself, and use OD frequently (ie, it's always open).

I'm using

  • XP SP2 Build 2600
  • OD v1.20a.015
  • IE 6.0 2900.2180

What's everyone else running?

-Mike
[Stardock Support]

mrjkbh2
Reply #11 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:04 AM

Doesn't look like anyone has replied, but I just started using the free version of OD two days ago and I'm having this problem quite often. It seems that when I restart my PC, OD stays on top of everything for a while. Then, the longer I use the PC without rebooting, the more OD seems to stay behind other windows.


For me, it is not just maximized windows that are causing the problem, it is any sized window.


I'm using:



  • XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2

  • OD 1.20 (free version just downloaded on Dec 5)

  • IE 6.0.2900.2180, but I'm using Maxthon 1.5.0 (this uses IE)

Matt

Cr4z33
Reply #12 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:06 AM
I'm getting the same problem with ObjectDock Plus v1.20.522u and since the first releases.
Considering Stardock is not interested into fixing this did anybody find a solution?
Bichur
Reply #13 Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:24 PM
don't know for sure Stardock isn't interested in fixing it...but considering only one person posted an answer to Milksama's question...and that took 36 days....
thejul
Reply #14 Monday, December 26, 2005 10:38 PM
Same problem here,
winxp pro
registered version 1.20.522u +
hp compaq P4
I wish Stardock would get some people on fixing anoying bug
I even gave up using the flyout menus
kin242
Reply #15 Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:44 AM
Same problem on OD+ which I just purchased (not too happy about this to be honest). It looks very similar to the conflict between cursorXP and WB5- in that the top of the titlebar obscures OD+ and in effect disables always on top. I also find that sometimes my window frames disappear completely- the only way to get them to come back is to right click and maximise in the taskbar.

I bought OD+ yesterday and have not installed anything else since so I reckon again OD+ is causing this bug.
Corky_O
Reply #16 Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:13 PM

Interesting,

Version 1.20.522u Plus

Tabbed dock = "Always on top", and "Tabs always on top when docked" working

Non-tabbed dock = "Always on top" working

All programs including IE and WMP respect settings in OD+

Two machines:

Homebuilt desktop - XP Pro w/SP2, IE 6.0.2900.2180, WMP 10

Notebook - XP Home w/SP2, IE 6.0.2900.2180, WMP 10

BTW - I tested this using the default Windows XP theme, so those experiencing the issue may have found an incompatibility between OD+ and other customization programs.

You might try saving the ObjectDock theme > unload ObjectDock > clear the cache (instructions here http://corkyo.wincustomize.com/Articles.aspx?SID=5463&AID=82461) > reload ObjectDock (it will load with default settings) > load theme and test again.

Note - I do know that ObjectDock, CursorXP, and some other programs are seeing issues with the "Overlay" used by some programs (Games, Media Players, etc.) - and this is currently thought to be created by weaknesses in the Windows OS. Stardock is looking into this problem, and trying to find a way to work around the "flaw".

ethsza
Reply #17 Friday, January 13, 2006 9:05 AM
My tabbed OD+ dock disappeares totally. I'm on a win2k PC, and started to run IconX so that I can get rid of the icon label backgrounds.

For those of you not remembering pre-XP desktops, the desktop icon labels have a background, that has the same color as the desktop background color. No problem if you don't use any wallpaper, but if you do, they are simply ugly. Well OK, now that I use IconX, I use its sophisticated features, but anyway, there's a conflicz between OD+ and IconX.

The way how I can imagine how IconX can work is that it creates a virtual desktop covering the real desktop, and the fancy shadowed, custom labeled, animated icons are on this desktop. Now I'm afraid, my tabbed OD+ dock stucks between the real and this IconX desktop.
Once this happens, the way to get it back is this painful:
-Click the "configure dock" icon on my non-tabbed dock
-Press the "My Docks" button
-Select "Docked Tabs on the Left edge"
-Press the "Edit thid Dock" button
-Uncheck "Always on top" or the "Show dock as a drawer" option
-Recheck it
-Press the "Close" button (Takes 5 seconds!!)
-Press the "Close" button on the below window (Takes another 4-5 seconds!!)
-Press the "Close" button on the original Object Dock Properties window (Takes another 5 seconds!!)

Sometimes it is enough to start an application in the non-tabbed dock to get the tabbed dock re-appear, sometimes it does not work.
Sometimes it is enough to click and hold the mouse button over such an icon on the non-tabbed dock, that is pointing to a folder, and when the content of that folder is displayed in a menu over the dock icon, the tabbed dock re-appeares, but sometimes this does not work neither.
So most of the time I start the above long sequence.

I have written about this long time ago in one of the support forums, but didn't get a single comment from Stardock yet. I feel so pissed off about this, and ignored as a win2k user when it comes to WB5! If any of the concurrent dock solutions (all of the others magnifying effect is a lot smoother, a lot closer to a MAC) come up with some grouping features, I'll swap OD+.
domonus
Reply #18 Monday, March 19, 2007 3:55 AM
Same problem here! This totally kills the usage of the program for me.
ethsza
Reply #19 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:39 PM
I got rid of that problem. Well. Mmm. How should I say. After not getting any help I have tried rklauncher, which is just great, more responsive, and consumes less resources. And free.
snaphappy
Reply #20 Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:38 AM
This is a real mystery for me, sometimes OD had its good days in regard to this other days..well it performs like its OD'd. Turning always on top off and on does tend to help but its no lasting solution. Its too bad becuase OD is ont thing that keeps me using a PC desktop, I get so annoyed at the XP and Vista interface. Anyway I do hope this gets resolved, OD had been perfect otherwise.

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