An artist packs his bags...
such a waste
Saturday, March 19, 2005 by Double Zero | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Well..apparently comments made upon a certain artists WB has caused rash decisions to be made, it is unfortunate.
I can see his point, the accusations were serious from an artistic point of view, I can see the "Accusors" point of view as well, tho I wonder, could this have been handled through Email, clearing up what I believe is simple coincidence? instead of publically accusing someone of something as serious as plagerism? ::sighs::
I do not know what the answers are, and I am not here to argue anybodies point..I simply would like to say it is too bad that these events have led to the loss of someone that is clearly as talented as the artisit is that has been accused and has left WC..
I hope it isnt perhaps to late for something to be worked out, but I am sure it is, both sides of the accusations are pretty steadfast in their actions and convictions..who really suffers? That would be the people now deprived of enjoying the work in question that is now no longer available to them..WC doesnt suffer..in Jafo's words.."It is your loss" and perhaps thats true..somewhat..but not completely..WC has lost something as well..but it is those that would have enjoyed the skin for what it is that have truly lost..over what?..a difference of opinion? Serious accusations made before finding out the exact truth?..
I dont know guys, I just think there must be a better way to handle incidents like this in the future..
And to the artist is question..you will be missed..
To the artists that felt plagerized.. I do still enjoy your works as well, if they were copied..that would not change.
It is simply too bad is all,
Zero.
I can see his point, the accusations were serious from an artistic point of view, I can see the "Accusors" point of view as well, tho I wonder, could this have been handled through Email, clearing up what I believe is simple coincidence? instead of publically accusing someone of something as serious as plagerism? ::sighs::
I do not know what the answers are, and I am not here to argue anybodies point..I simply would like to say it is too bad that these events have led to the loss of someone that is clearly as talented as the artisit is that has been accused and has left WC..
I hope it isnt perhaps to late for something to be worked out, but I am sure it is, both sides of the accusations are pretty steadfast in their actions and convictions..who really suffers? That would be the people now deprived of enjoying the work in question that is now no longer available to them..WC doesnt suffer..in Jafo's words.."It is your loss" and perhaps thats true..somewhat..but not completely..WC has lost something as well..but it is those that would have enjoyed the skin for what it is that have truly lost..over what?..a difference of opinion? Serious accusations made before finding out the exact truth?..
I dont know guys, I just think there must be a better way to handle incidents like this in the future..
And to the artist is question..you will be missed..
To the artists that felt plagerized.. I do still enjoy your works as well, if they were copied..that would not change.
It is simply too bad is all,
Zero.
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~Angelic DestinE
Reply #42 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:45 AM
Reply #42 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:45 AM
Neither do I, I'm just along for the ride on this one. Since somebody graciously decided to give me an honorific title despite my earlier rantings and political soap box speeches I decided to retire from my self-appointed "shop steward of the people" position and just upload my screenshots. 
Double Zero
Reply #43 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:32 AM
Reply #43 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:32 AM
::scratches his head:: Uhhhhhhhh this isnt direct enough??..methinks your skimming through to quickly to appreciate whats being said..::nods::
| #19 by Citizen NightwingDragon Sunday, March 20, 2005 Reply Quote Watch [NightwingDragon] I really didn't think I was that important to start a thread about! and yes Jaffo was very correct. I did jump the gun, and feel horrible about it. from now on I will take take very close care over what I say and do |
Double Zero
Reply #44 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:41 AM
Reply #44 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:41 AM
Just a slight addition..LoL...I have been known to skim through myself..LoL! and miss the finer points of a thread completely!
Zero.
Zero.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #45 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:06 AM
You are not alone. I amaze myself at what I miss sometimes. I can't blame it on anything except laziness.
Reply #45 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:06 AM
| I have been known to skim through myself..LoL! and miss the finer points of a thread completely! |
You are not alone. I amaze myself at what I miss sometimes. I can't blame it on anything except laziness.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #47 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:38 PM
Umm, everyone claims foul ball. It's just that none of the foul callers win in court.
Reply #47 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:38 PM
| after all PLENTY of companies revese engineer another compaines product, change one thing, and then get a patent for it and no one claims foul ball. |
Umm, everyone claims foul ball. It's just that none of the foul callers win in court.
kona0197
Reply #48 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:45 PM
Reply #48 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:45 PM
Why don't they win in court? Simply. Because the product the other company made based on their product has a few different parts - therefore it's considered a different product. I see no difference in skin making. After all - are they not all loosely based on Microsoft's Luna? All we did is change a few things from Luna and called it our own. 
NightwingDragon
Reply #49 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:14 PM
Reply #49 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:14 PM
When I was a kid I loved Transformers. One day I went into a small store called Co-op, which sold mostly farm equip, and hardware, I saw some knockoffs of afew of the transformers I wanted. I still wouldn't buy them because they were too shabily made, and could be recognized as complete knockoffs. Sometimes a company will do this in order to sell a similar product abit cheaper than the original. Such was not the case in this point. They were actually a couple of dollars more! The point here is that advertising is a multi-million dollar industry, and most times they will latch onto a product that is popular and try to ride the cash cow into the ground with it. Go to your local area flea market and you'll see glaring examples of this. If you see a pair of Oakley sunglasses at a flea market for $8, you can bet your ass they ain't real! Especially since a legit pair is often into the hundred dollar range. As far as the courts go, copyright specs dictate that if you can change the product you are attempting to sell in at least areas, you can sell it without litigational reprocution,(if I remeber right). I think this is a very bad idea, and further more, said cos. are trying to make a buck on someone elses ideas, and hard work. Imitation is the afterbirth of innovation. (geez, I hope I don't fit into that!) YUK!
Jafo
Reply #50 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:39 PM
Reply #50 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:39 PM
| Why don't they win in court? Simply. Because the product the other company made based on their product has a few different parts - therefore it's considered a different product. |
Bit of a generalisation....some have their nostrils slit for thieving.
Each case is heard onits own merit.
And anyway....when it comes to copyright rather than patent right it's entirely different, and a baseless argument...
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Reply #41 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:58 AM