Removing windows xp?
Thursday, March 17, 2005 by Richard Mohler | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have a new computer and want to get rid of everything on the old one and try to sell it. Does anybody know how to go about that?
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kona0197
Reply #2 Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:49 PM
Reply #2 Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:49 PM
I don't put any info on my PC in the first place. 
Double Zero
Reply #3 Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:32 PM
Reply #3 Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:32 PM
Format then reinstall Windows..
This can be done using the Windows XP installation disk or a windows 98 boot disk
If using the Win98 boot disk simply type in Format C: at the prompt (where C: it your root drive) All kinds of warnings will appear (designed to give you a chance to back out) Type Y and let it go..
When Format is complete you can opt to either reinstall XP or any other OS back onto the PC
Hope that helps,
Zero.
This can be done using the Windows XP installation disk or a windows 98 boot disk
If using the Win98 boot disk simply type in Format C: at the prompt (where C: it your root drive) All kinds of warnings will appear (designed to give you a chance to back out) Type Y and let it go..
When Format is complete you can opt to either reinstall XP or any other OS back onto the PC
Hope that helps,
Zero.
jebland
Reply #5 Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:56 PM
Reply #5 Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:56 PM
Formatting doesn't really destroy the data...There are a number of tools that can recover after a format. I would uninstall all proggies except Windows and use eraser (or something similar) available free at http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/
I don't think you can format from a Win98 floppy if you are using the NTSF file system.
I don't think you can format from a Win98 floppy if you are using the NTSF file system.
Double Zero
Reply #6 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:05 PM
She's right, to be completey safe replace the Hard Drive with a brand new one..(I do think that this is going a bit far, how many of us have data so sensitive that the NSA would want it?)
There are also other free tools to get the same result,on this free disk there are 4 different tools Link
Most times though just a simple format is good enough, unless you have super secret national security type spy stuff..LoL..
Zero.
Reply #6 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:05 PM
| Formatting doesn't really destroy the data...There are a number of tools that can recover after a format. I would uninstall all proggies except Windows and use eraser |
She's right, to be completey safe replace the Hard Drive with a brand new one..(I do think that this is going a bit far, how many of us have data so sensitive that the NSA would want it?)
There are also other free tools to get the same result,on this free disk there are 4 different tools Link
Most times though just a simple format is good enough, unless you have super secret national security type spy stuff..LoL..
Zero.
kona0197
Reply #7 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:07 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:07 PM
I use KILLDISK to destroy all data - wipes it clean.
jebland
Reply #8 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:14 PM
Reply #8 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:14 PM
00, most people have personal information on their computers, passwords, registration numbers, etc. that would be best not to turn loose "in the wild". That's why I suggested uninstalling progs & erasing the disk area. Didn't mean to step on your toes. 
Double Zero
Reply #9 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:22 PM
Reply #9 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:22 PM
Wow...LoL..Did you get that from that??..
No worries, you didnt step on my toes, and I didnt mean to setp on yours (tho my boots cause me to be a bit clumbsy!..LoL)
I was just pointing out that for the average user (which is probably more than the case) a simple format is fine, there isnt an abundance of people that know how to extract information and chances are he wont be selling his PC to someone that does..
But as I pointed out, you are Correct and I thought to offer more free tools in that regard.
Zero.
No worries, you didnt step on my toes, and I didnt mean to setp on yours (tho my boots cause me to be a bit clumbsy!..LoL)
I was just pointing out that for the average user (which is probably more than the case) a simple format is fine, there isnt an abundance of people that know how to extract information and chances are he wont be selling his PC to someone that does..
But as I pointed out, you are Correct and I thought to offer more free tools in that regard.
Zero.
Corky_O
Reply #10 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:38 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:38 PM
From a little different perspective,
If you have a few bucks to invest in the project, you could just purchase say a 40 GB hard drive, install XP (or not), and add the additional cost to the selling price.
Just a thought.
If you have a few bucks to invest in the project, you could just purchase say a 40 GB hard drive, install XP (or not), and add the additional cost to the selling price.
Just a thought.
Double Zero
Reply #11 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:43 PM
Reply #11 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:43 PM
Heeeeeeyyyyy..I had that perspective too..::laughs:: 1st!
Now my toes are getting all squished!..j/k
Thats actually what I do personally, I replace the HD's in my old systems before giving/selling them..But it really has nothing to do with security reasons, I used the old drives as slaves in my current systems..More storage/all my old stuff/ less hassel then transferring data..for me
Ah well,
Good luck, in any event.
Zero.
| She's right, to be completey safe replace the Hard Drive with a brand new one.. |
Now my toes are getting all squished!..j/k
Thats actually what I do personally, I replace the HD's in my old systems before giving/selling them..But it really has nothing to do with security reasons, I used the old drives as slaves in my current systems..More storage/all my old stuff/ less hassel then transferring data..for me
Ah well,
Good luck, in any event.
Zero.
kona0197
Reply #12 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:52 PM
40 gigs are still selling for more than 40 bucks these days!
(BTW Zero - Is in really neccesary to sigh each of your post with your name?)
Reply #12 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:52 PM
| If you have a few bucks to invest in the project, you could just purchase say a 40 GB hard drive, install XP (or not), and add the additional cost to the selling price. |
40 gigs are still selling for more than 40 bucks these days!
(BTW Zero - Is in really neccesary to sigh each of your post with your name?)
Double Zero
Reply #13 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:55 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:55 PM
Kona, it's a habit, is it against the rules? Just something I have grown accustomed to doing..I apollogize if it bothers you, but it's not likely to change anytime soon.
Take Care,
Zero.
Take Care,
Zero.
kona0197
Reply #14 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:59 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:59 PM
No it don't bother me - I was just wondering what the deal was.
Double Zero
Reply #15 Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:01 PM
Glad I could answer one of the "Easy" ones then for you..::laughs:: it is truely a rare opportunity to do so.
Zero.
Reply #15 Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:01 PM
| No it don't bother me - I was just wondering what the deal was. |
Glad I could answer one of the "Easy" ones then for you..::laughs:: it is truely a rare opportunity to do so.
Zero.
DarKNova2k9
Reply #16 Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:53 PM
Reply #16 Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:53 PM
can you still recover deta even if you delete the partitions?
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #18 Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:31 PM
Reply #18 Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:31 PM
His name is DOUBLE Zero. Very fitting to sign his name with one.
Phoon
Reply #19 Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:03 PM
Um.. scuse me here buuuuttt...
To begin with.. (if you are concerned about it)If your old PC came with Windows XP, most likely the OS stays with the Hard Drive or system, and is not transferrable to your new system. You are supposed to obtain a new copy of XP for your new one.
If thats the case then I believe you are supposed to supply the OS media with the old system when you sell it.
Licensing will give anyone a viscious headache
Reply #19 Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:03 PM
| If you have a few bucks to invest in the project, you could just purchase say a 40 GB hard drive, install XP |
Um.. scuse me here buuuuttt...
To begin with.. (if you are concerned about it)If your old PC came with Windows XP, most likely the OS stays with the Hard Drive or system, and is not transferrable to your new system. You are supposed to obtain a new copy of XP for your new one.
If thats the case then I believe you are supposed to supply the OS media with the old system when you sell it.
Licensing will give anyone a viscious headache
Chris TH
Reply #20 Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:03 PM
Yes, it's possible. Deleting the partitions only rewrites the partition table which is a very samll area on the disk. Similar to deleting which only 'marks' a file as deleted in the directory table. The data is not entirely gone until later when the space is reused by another file.
Reply #20 Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:03 PM
| can you still recover deta even if you delete the partitions |
Yes, it's possible. Deleting the partitions only rewrites the partition table which is a very samll area on the disk. Similar to deleting which only 'marks' a file as deleted in the directory table. The data is not entirely gone until later when the space is reused by another file.
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