Life after death.
Do you believe?
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 by Sleeping Dragon | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I don't want this to be a theological debate. I would prefer if it were kept very general and that we respect other's rights to their beliefs. That means no arguments. I am interested, though, in who believes in life after death. It doesn't have to be judaio Christianity. It can be reincarnation, ghosts, ...anything. Do you believe that there is something after our body passes on? You can just say "yes" or "no" or go into a bit of detail, but please stick to your own belief and don't criticize someone else's.
Do you believe?
Do you believe?
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Bash2cool
Reply #62 Friday, October 14, 2005 2:18 PM
Reply #62 Friday, October 14, 2005 2:18 PM
I believe that there is life after death.
If people do good, their life after death would be heaven.
If people do bad, their life after death would be hell.
i do believe that Jesus will come back to life and that when he does....that would be a sign that life is about to end.
I also believe in this......(its kind of creepy to me but here it goes..).... the sun can go up north, east, west, and south depending on where you live. And if one day, you notice that the sun goes up the opposite way of where it used to be, that will be that last day that there would be life on Earth and every body and every thing will die out or vanish and the whole solar system explodes.
i'll tell the rest later....
If people do good, their life after death would be heaven.
If people do bad, their life after death would be hell.
i do believe that Jesus will come back to life and that when he does....that would be a sign that life is about to end.
I also believe in this......(its kind of creepy to me but here it goes..).... the sun can go up north, east, west, and south depending on where you live. And if one day, you notice that the sun goes up the opposite way of where it used to be, that will be that last day that there would be life on Earth and every body and every thing will die out or vanish and the whole solar system explodes.
i'll tell the rest later....
Cynder-Elluh
Reply #63 Friday, October 14, 2005 2:38 PM
Reply #63 Friday, October 14, 2005 2:38 PM
I believe we are all created in God's image and we are here to serve.
I believe our lives are on purpose and there is a plan and was from the beginning.
I also believe God created us with a great capacity to love and be loved and we live more richly when we are loved and when we love.....
And YES, I believe in eternal life and life after death.
I believe our lives are on purpose and there is a plan and was from the beginning.
I also believe God created us with a great capacity to love and be loved and we live more richly when we are loved and when we love.....
And YES, I believe in eternal life and life after death.
lilstarfish
Reply #64 Friday, October 14, 2005 3:05 PM
Reply #64 Friday, October 14, 2005 3:05 PM
Yes.
Life after death is certain.
It's the way we (our souls) can grow and learn what is good
and what is bad.
Let's say you kill (a very bad thing) someone in this life,
then you will, in your next life, at one point, be the victim
of a murderer.
Just so you will understand that killing other beings is
not a good thing.
This is what I am certain off.
Pay attention to other beings around you and be kind.
Life after death is certain.
It's the way we (our souls) can grow and learn what is good
and what is bad.
Let's say you kill (a very bad thing) someone in this life,
then you will, in your next life, at one point, be the victim
of a murderer.
Just so you will understand that killing other beings is
not a good thing.
This is what I am certain off.
Pay attention to other beings around you and be kind.
jebro
Reply #65 Friday, October 14, 2005 3:39 PM
Reply #65 Friday, October 14, 2005 3:39 PM
Life after death is nothing but an intense wish that it will not just be one life, and nothing more.
There has not been anybody that have died and then come back to life to tell how it was on the other side, or if there is another side. This is facts.
To believe in God or any other religion makes human being more human, while we are alive and life more easy for those who need a hand to hold through life.
I'll say: If God exists, or if there is a life after death, I will not deny it. But then I need proof, not just statements. Otherwise, I will have to wait to get the true answer, until after the moment of death.
Homo sapiens is such a small creature in the Universe - and there are a many, many universe out there.
I agree with Night Train: "Quantum physics holds the key to all the secrets."
There has not been anybody that have died and then come back to life to tell how it was on the other side, or if there is another side. This is facts.
To believe in God or any other religion makes human being more human, while we are alive and life more easy for those who need a hand to hold through life.
I'll say: If God exists, or if there is a life after death, I will not deny it. But then I need proof, not just statements. Otherwise, I will have to wait to get the true answer, until after the moment of death.
Homo sapiens is such a small creature in the Universe - and there are a many, many universe out there.
I agree with Night Train: "Quantum physics holds the key to all the secrets."
Cynder-Elluh
Reply #66 Friday, October 14, 2005 8:13 PM
Have spoke my piece.... But I have to say I love this!
Does that mean St. Peter will be covered in heavenly dust.........
I am so very grateful for HIS forgiveness!!!!!!
Reply #66 Friday, October 14, 2005 8:13 PM
| "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy cow...what a ride!" |
Have spoke my piece.... But I have to say I love this!
Does that mean St. Peter will be covered in heavenly dust.........
I am so very grateful for HIS forgiveness!!!!!!
Bichur
Reply #67 Friday, October 14, 2005 8:19 PM
hmmm...look around you, you really think God's butt ugly?
Works for me
Reply #67 Friday, October 14, 2005 8:19 PM
| I believe we are all created in God's image |
hmmm...look around you, you really think God's butt ugly?
| I've been told we all become trolls. |
Works for me
Lantec
Reply #70 Friday, October 14, 2005 9:35 PM
Reply #70 Friday, October 14, 2005 9:35 PM
Personally, I believe DNA to be absolute proof of a creator. As far as life after death.....we can't explain life and yet here we are. We cannot create even create the most basic amino acid chain yet WE live. All we can do is quantify/predict/postulate based on observation. I don't need to and cannot possibly explain death. I'll see it soon enough. It will be different. Will it be the end of existence? I believe the laws of conservation prohibit that.
What I do believe is in God. It's amazing that the Jews, Chrisitans and Muslims ALL believe in the same God and just can't agree on his representative. All three believe in "heaven" (and the other reward) I'm with them.
What I do believe is in God. It's amazing that the Jews, Chrisitans and Muslims ALL believe in the same God and just can't agree on his representative. All three believe in "heaven" (and the other reward) I'm with them.
brassblaster
Reply #71 Tuesday, December 6, 2005 10:03 PM
Reply #71 Tuesday, December 6, 2005 10:03 PM
Quite right. Born into the church as a preacher's kid, went out into the world as a rebelious youth, compared what the two offered and made up my own mind based on my own experiences. The Bible is the true Word of God, Jesus did die for our sins, the Holy Spirit is the ultimate comforter and friend. You may disagree, but that is your choice. The choice we all have to make.
Choose wisely! There is no makeup test.
Choose wisely! There is no makeup test.
starkers
Reply #72 Tuesday, December 6, 2005 11:10 PM
Reply #72 Tuesday, December 6, 2005 11:10 PM
I do not believe in heaven or hell as being our final destination.
Heaven and hell are here on earth....right here, right now. It can be heaven...or someone else can make it hell, because who in their right mind would choose that alternative.
Right now, for me, it's hell....so let the next plane of existence be a vast improvement on this one.
Yes, I believe there's some form of conscious life in the hereafter, but not necessarily in any traditional sense.
Our life's energy, soul, if you like, transcends....but to where exactly, I'm not sure and lack the experience to proffer a viable suggestion.
There is, however, another way in which we live on, and that's through our handed down knowledge and achievements: and more importantly, through our children. Whatever we were, our human traits and DNA, etc, lives on in all of our descendants....our children, their children, and so on.
And of course, we live on in their memories
Heaven and hell are here on earth....right here, right now. It can be heaven...or someone else can make it hell, because who in their right mind would choose that alternative.
Right now, for me, it's hell....so let the next plane of existence be a vast improvement on this one.
Yes, I believe there's some form of conscious life in the hereafter, but not necessarily in any traditional sense.
Our life's energy, soul, if you like, transcends....but to where exactly, I'm not sure and lack the experience to proffer a viable suggestion.
There is, however, another way in which we live on, and that's through our handed down knowledge and achievements: and more importantly, through our children. Whatever we were, our human traits and DNA, etc, lives on in all of our descendants....our children, their children, and so on.
And of course, we live on in their memories
Chris TH
Reply #73 Tuesday, December 6, 2005 11:24 PM
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"Aha," says Man, "but the Babelfish [substitute DNA, biblical miracles, etc] is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It couldn't have evolved by chance. It proves You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
--Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Reply #73 Tuesday, December 6, 2005 11:24 PM
| Personally, I believe DNA to be absolute proof of a creator. |
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"Aha," says Man, "but the Babelfish [substitute DNA, biblical miracles, etc] is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It couldn't have evolved by chance. It proves You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
--Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Nick Blade
Reply #74 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:00 AM
Reply #74 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:00 AM
Life after death...
i don't think its a matter of life after death, i think my/our existance is a process of learning and that learning takes place over many lifetimes. my/our souls come back each time to learn lessons that are predetermind before it returns to this plane. once we have learned these lessons then we can become part of the greater power in the universe. these lessons last as long as the body can survive and if for some resson we don't live long enough we'll come back to try to learn it again.
religion...i know this is dangerous but...
i don't think any religion is compleatly right in there beliefs or we wouldn't have so many to chose from but, i do believe that they all have some things right. karma is one, reincarnation is another and, the importance of loving our fellow humans is a good thing to know how to do. i believe that just believing that there is a power we call god IS important in its self and, that we treat that power with respectful love and devotion not just on a special day or holiday but every minute of every day.
i'll stop here but i could go on and on with this topic. i think i have answerd the question with a good enough reason why i belive what i belive...
i don't think its a matter of life after death, i think my/our existance is a process of learning and that learning takes place over many lifetimes. my/our souls come back each time to learn lessons that are predetermind before it returns to this plane. once we have learned these lessons then we can become part of the greater power in the universe. these lessons last as long as the body can survive and if for some resson we don't live long enough we'll come back to try to learn it again.
religion...i know this is dangerous but...
i don't think any religion is compleatly right in there beliefs or we wouldn't have so many to chose from but, i do believe that they all have some things right. karma is one, reincarnation is another and, the importance of loving our fellow humans is a good thing to know how to do. i believe that just believing that there is a power we call god IS important in its self and, that we treat that power with respectful love and devotion not just on a special day or holiday but every minute of every day.
i'll stop here but i could go on and on with this topic. i think i have answerd the question with a good enough reason why i belive what i belive...
Patriots
Reply #75 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:05 AM
Reply #75 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:05 AM
DPG: Loved your post, reminded me of one of my favorite sketches from Monty Python's "The Holy Grail"
Bring Out Your Dead
Scene 2
MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER: Here's one -- nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: What?
CUSTOMER: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not!
MORTICIAN: He isn't.
CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.
MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against
regulations.
DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.
MORTICIAN: I can't take him...
DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!
CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor...
MORTICIAN: I can't.
CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He
won't be long.
MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost
nine today.
CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round?
MORTICIAN: Thursday.
DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there
someth
Bring Out Your Dead
Scene 2
MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER: Here's one -- nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: What?
CUSTOMER: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not!
MORTICIAN: He isn't.
CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.
MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against
regulations.
DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.
MORTICIAN: I can't take him...
DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!
CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor...
MORTICIAN: I can't.
CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He
won't be long.
MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost
nine today.
CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round?
MORTICIAN: Thursday.
DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there
someth
Patriots
Reply #76 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:07 AM
Reply #76 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:07 AM
Ooops forgot if you want to read the whole script
Check it out: Link
Whole thing didn't copy: Take Two:
Scene 2
MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER: Here's one -- nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: What?
CUSTOMER: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not!
MORTICIAN: He isn't.
CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.
MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against
regulations.
DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.
MORTICIAN: I can't take him...
DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!
CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor...
MORTICIAN: I can't.
CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He
won't be long.
MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost
nine today.
CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round?
MORTICIAN: Thursday.
DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there
something you can do?
DEAD PERSON: I feel happy... I feel happy.
[whop]
CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much.
MORTICIAN: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
CUSTOMER: Right.
[clop clop]
MORTICIAN: Who's that then?
CUSTOMER: I don't know.
MORTICIAN: Must be a king.
CUSTOMER: Why?
MORTICIAN: He hasn't got shit all over him.
Check it out: Link
Whole thing didn't copy: Take Two:Scene 2
MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER: Here's one -- nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: What?
CUSTOMER: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not!
MORTICIAN: He isn't.
CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.
MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against
regulations.
DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.
MORTICIAN: I can't take him...
DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!
CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor...
MORTICIAN: I can't.
CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He
won't be long.
MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost
nine today.
CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round?
MORTICIAN: Thursday.
DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there
something you can do?
DEAD PERSON: I feel happy... I feel happy.
[whop]
CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much.
MORTICIAN: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
CUSTOMER: Right.
[clop clop]
MORTICIAN: Who's that then?
CUSTOMER: I don't know.
MORTICIAN: Must be a king.
CUSTOMER: Why?
MORTICIAN: He hasn't got shit all over him.
dianelaurain
Reply #77 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 9:24 AM
Reply #77 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 9:24 AM
I think that this is all there is..................make the most of it while you can.........
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #78 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:11 AM
Reply #78 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:11 AM
One thing that unsettles me a bit is the whole "ambiguous" thing. I mean something is true or it is not. It is not based on whether we believe it to be true or not. If there is a piece of metal in my hand, we may argue over whether it is Steel or Aluminum or Stainless, but it definitely is something regardless of what we think. Bring that piece of metal to a metalurgist and we will soon discover that it is an alloy of a couple different things, etc, etc.
Whether there is a god or is not a god, and who that god is, will be a fact that we discover.
I do not believe that it is whatever anyone wants to make of it any more than I believe that I can call that piece of metal a piece of glass and make it so.
The truth of the matter will be discovered when we die. But if I just say "I believe that God is a box of Mac n Cheese", it will not make it truth; for you or for me.
Whether there is a god or is not a god, and who that god is, will be a fact that we discover.
I do not believe that it is whatever anyone wants to make of it any more than I believe that I can call that piece of metal a piece of glass and make it so.
The truth of the matter will be discovered when we die. But if I just say "I believe that God is a box of Mac n Cheese", it will not make it truth; for you or for me.
The Headmaster
Reply #79 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:48 AM
Reply #79 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:48 AM
The soul came from Jehovah, and at the end of the human’s life it goes right back to where it came from. After life the soul has no more thoughts, no feelings, no hates, and no happiness, just nothing. They cannot hurt those who hated them nor love and protect those they loved when they were alive. When they appear in other people’s dream or being contacted by psychics, it’s the devil playing his game with the living. Heaven was made for angels and Earth for human. When the time has come for God to put an end to the suffering, he will bring back total peace on Earth. The righteouses souls will be brought back to life where they will reside on the new Earth also call Paradise.
aimzzz
Reply #80 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:54 PM
Reply #80 Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:54 PM
#78
I agree-- if true, then whatever a person believes in while alive would be what the person experiences after life. In that case, everything would be true simultaneouly, ie, truth would be meaningless...
| something is true or it is not. It is not based on whether we believe it to be true or not |
I agree-- if true, then whatever a person believes in while alive would be what the person experiences after life. In that case, everything would be true simultaneouly, ie, truth would be meaningless...
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Reply #61 Friday, October 14, 2005 1:31 PM