Early adopter?
or cool thinker?
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 by ChaosMachine | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Here we are again once more. One simple question. When you want to build that amazing new computer, do you go out and buy all the new high tech gadgets that just hit the market, or you wait couple months to see how things are? I personnaly to all the machines I made, i always wait for some solid reviews. Occasionaly though (and that's rarely)i need to buy that new zip-boom add on card that it might solve some of the upgrade needs. So let me hear you opinion.
Lantec
Reply #2 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:12 AM
Reply #2 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:12 AM
I usually buy once the price has dropped by at least 1/3 which amounts to 6 months to 1 year after a new processor comes out or other big development. I try to keep systems as long as they stay useful. I have a 350Mhz PII that serves as a word processor for our staff biologist. (Don't want him getting the great outdoors all over a good computers) I have a 450Mhz that is a plotter server. Most all the staff has a least an 850mhz. It really depends on needs. The CAD stations NEED to be high performance (lots of ram and 1.8Mhz or better) Personally, the last 2 years I've moved over to Laptops. 
Cyberworld
Reply #3 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:07 AM
Reply #3 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:07 AM
Wait a year,then go out and buy last year's top of the crop at 1/3 of price with extra goodies and better support.
ChaosMachine
Reply #4 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:53 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:53 PM
Thank you guys for your postings. I agree 100%. In personal level i can't afford the new staff until the prices are down AND are been tested.
At work level, well it has to do with Managment expenses and user needs. I still keep some of the computer i manage to 450's or 350's at work and that's because they are printer servers.
Anyways, i think that if a computer (even a 1 Ghz, or 850 Mhz) does the job keep it as long as it can. If the video card is OK for what you do then thats great.
But, and there is always a but, what do you do when users are complaning that their computers are sooooooo slow? How do you explain to them, in simple words, that theirs are ok without been a 'wet blanket' or something? If you stand by your knowledge then you become the 'no-team-player' or worse. So do you 'cross over' to early adopter in the work enviroment, or just stand to your opinion until the right time?
At work level, well it has to do with Managment expenses and user needs. I still keep some of the computer i manage to 450's or 350's at work and that's because they are printer servers.
Anyways, i think that if a computer (even a 1 Ghz, or 850 Mhz) does the job keep it as long as it can. If the video card is OK for what you do then thats great.
But, and there is always a but, what do you do when users are complaning that their computers are sooooooo slow? How do you explain to them, in simple words, that theirs are ok without been a 'wet blanket' or something? If you stand by your knowledge then you become the 'no-team-player' or worse. So do you 'cross over' to early adopter in the work enviroment, or just stand to your opinion until the right time?
Double Zero
Reply #5 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:13 PM
Reply #5 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:13 PM
::looks around for the people management expert, isnt at all one himself so he just keeps his trap shut:: LoL
Zero.
Zero.
Lantec
Reply #6 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM
Reply #6 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM
ChaosMachine - I tell them that I still have a 386 with 1 mb of Video Ram and 8 mb of Ram that's needing a little up time to keep it working. Works almost every time. 
ChaosMachine
Reply #7 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:29 PM 
Thanks for the tip Lantec. Can i use it also? And by the way, i wish i had my old 386. I would love to take all the memory chips out! Just for the fun of it. (A voice on the background: CRUELTY TO COMPUTERS!!! ARGGG!!). What who me? Nooooo!!
Reply #7 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:29 PM
Thanks for the tip Lantec. Can i use it also? And by the way, i wish i had my old 386. I would love to take all the memory chips out! Just for the fun of it. (A voice on the background: CRUELTY TO COMPUTERS!!! ARGGG!!). What who me? Nooooo!!
goodmorphing
Reply #8 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:51 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:51 PM
There are many interesting studies about computer use and the perception of time. I couldn't find the specific one I was looking for but these two links are interesting (at a quick glance). Link and Link
The second one is especially relevant.
The article I was looking for (from a two or three year old memory) pointed out that people get frustrated waiting for a computer to begin a task and tend to overestimate the passage of time. One of the points made is that there is very often a competing focus of time that asserts some sense of urgency, so that the first focus takes on more frustrative traits.
Maybe you could find a few good articles like this and print them out for your people. They certainly gave me more understanding.
goodmorphing
Reply #9 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:24 PM
Reply #9 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:24 PM
.....additionally, I suspect that the function of one perception imposing the sense of urgency on the another might, at a neurological level, excite some version of the 'flight or fight' response which is very basic. This enhances the physical perception of time passing very slowly. To counter that you might explore some mental relaxation techniques or explore some work-space variables to the frustration... Are people anxious to get their work done in time to leave for the night, for a smoke break? Do they feel they are overburdoned with the amount of work they are expected to do so that they perceive any delay at all to threaten their sense of adequacy? You might accomplish much to explore these issues.
ChaosMachine
Reply #10 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:52 PM
Reply #10 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:52 PM
You have a point there goodmorphing. In a buisness level people are perciving time differently depending the stress there are under. As IT support we never been tought to take in considerention the physiological aspect of things. I agree that it does play role on the demand for new and faster hardware. Some times faster computers are the mana from heaven, or that's what users think. But unfortunatelly Managment can't take this into account. It doesn't stands well in the annual expenses reports under 'Reasons for upgrade'
Thanks for the article links. I will have a look.
Thanks for the article links. I will have a look.
goodmorphing
Reply #11 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:01 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:01 PM
I was still trying to find that old article when I found this one. It is kind of analytical but it might be help develop some strategy for doing what you want to do.
A few quotes:
Performance management is the most thankless job. If performance is good, the perception is that you
are not needed. If response time is lagging, you are a failure. Even when the measurements look good, if the
end user is unhappy, again, you have failed to meet your goals. Managing expectations, end users, colleagues,
business managers and your boss – these are your real SLOs (service level objectives). Learn how to use
‘social styles’ and other techniques to manage change, make recommendations, handle hidden service levels
and deal with degradation with greater success, to enhance your reputation, visibility and value to your
company.
are not needed. If response time is lagging, you are a failure. Even when the measurements look good, if the
end user is unhappy, again, you have failed to meet your goals. Managing expectations, end users, colleagues,
business managers and your boss – these are your real SLOs (service level objectives). Learn how to use
‘social styles’ and other techniques to manage change, make recommendations, handle hidden service levels
and deal with degradation with greater success, to enhance your reputation, visibility and value to your
company.
Responsiveness of the system is key to user
happiness. Faster is always better, if you ask the
user. However, studies in HCI (human-computer
interaction) by Brian Shackel and others indicate that
speed is defined by expectation
Most of these are programming items, but a
performance analyst can influence programmers
while the application is developed. Remember that
perceived speed is what matters; minimize the feeling
of waiting, even if you cannot change the actual wait
time.
ChaosMachine
Reply #12 Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:47 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:47 PM
That remindes me of my Project Managment and Quality Assurance courses. It is true you need to get in depth analysis some times to do your job, but unfortunatelly 'un-proffesional' approach from higher up quiclky eleminates any efford. Also if you are by yourself and you can't get support from users and/or managment then there is no need to try to improve. Except if you love what you do.
goodmorphing
Reply #13 Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:55 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:55 PM
That's true. But if you understand what drives people, you can present your ideas in a way that they can integrate (or at least in a way that offers you least resistance). For instance, if 'speed is defined by expectations', then you can present your ideas in a way that shapes their expectations.
PurrBall
Reply #14 Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:28 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:28 PM
I sold an old 386 (bought it 2 damned days before pentium come out! 
) a while ago and it worked great (Win 3.1 WAS better than 98 
), except that the CD-ROM was blown. Oh well, they are what, like $20 to replace? 
) a while ago and it worked great (Win 3.1 WAS better than 98 
), except that the CD-ROM was blown. Oh well, they are what, like $20 to replace? 
ChaosMachine
Reply #15 Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:54 PM
Reply #15 Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:54 PM
You are right meowy. I don't recall having problems with the older operating system that much, except correct memory handling. That was a bit dodgy. The CD-Roms now, yeah about that price.
Goodmorphing, i understand what you mean. But there is another question there. In a working enviroment, what is the human based benchmark to use as a rule? The slowest worker or the fastest? A slowest may 'demand' to have something that will make him/her faster, and the fastest may say no need for that.
Goodmorphing, i understand what you mean. But there is another question there. In a working enviroment, what is the human based benchmark to use as a rule? The slowest worker or the fastest? A slowest may 'demand' to have something that will make him/her faster, and the fastest may say no need for that.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:55 AM
I usually wait for awhile on completely new products, or if they are just upgraded versions I will move to the last known well manufactured, proven to work component available. The price is usually much more reasonable and your still probably way ahead of most using the same product..Take PC's as an example..I still have friends using the old P 166's and that isnt uncommon..
I would say wait, allow the product to come down in price as well as prove itself in durability and functionality..
Thats my personal opinion and no way reflects or copies the opinion of any others..LoL
Take Care,
Zero.