Serious Ratings Abuse Still Happening
rehashing an old favorite
Saturday, February 19, 2005 by Phoon | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I can't help but notice that as of late, there has been some serious rating slamming happening particularly in the Windowblinds section.
There have been some fine themes that are getting hammered with 1 and 2 stars and some mediocre themes getting 3 and 4.
When Boxxi puts out a new one like Gold Carbon and its getting rated at 2 stars, I think that is proof enough.
It seems we have hashed and rehashed this issue, yet nothing ever gets done about it.
Why can't we have the following rules for ratings, it WOULD do a great deal to solve the issue.
#1) If you are going to rate, you MUST leave a comment.
#2) Your username, comment and rating are visible to the skinner at least.
There have been some fine themes that are getting hammered with 1 and 2 stars and some mediocre themes getting 3 and 4.
When Boxxi puts out a new one like Gold Carbon and its getting rated at 2 stars, I think that is proof enough.
It seems we have hashed and rehashed this issue, yet nothing ever gets done about it.
Why can't we have the following rules for ratings, it WOULD do a great deal to solve the issue.
#1) If you are going to rate, you MUST leave a comment.
#2) Your username, comment and rating are visible to the skinner at least.
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lilstarfish
Reply #22 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:19 AM
Reply #22 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:19 AM
why ratings at all?
doesn't the numbers of downloads speak for themselves?
doesn't the numbers of downloads speak for themselves?
Double Zero
Reply #23 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:25 AM
Reply #23 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:25 AM
(I just cant help myself..LoL)
"I don't get it, either. What is the benefit of drive by ratings?"
I think that would be to show appreciation and support for that artisits hard work and effort, while trying to maintain a non biased opinion of it..
As far as not knowing anything about it, I know you definitely know quite a bit about it..::laughs:: you can tell how usable a skin is and most of the mass's can pretty much determine most of the basics as well..I mean the DL's do speak for themselves.. The very good skins are usually the most popular DL's.
Zero.
"I don't get it, either. What is the benefit of drive by ratings?"
I think that would be to show appreciation and support for that artisits hard work and effort, while trying to maintain a non biased opinion of it..
As far as not knowing anything about it, I know you definitely know quite a bit about it..::laughs:: you can tell how usable a skin is and most of the mass's can pretty much determine most of the basics as well..I mean the DL's do speak for themselves.. The very good skins are usually the most popular DL's.
Zero.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #24 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:35 AM
How can you tell how well a Toyota Tacoma handles unless you drive one. How can you rate a skin without downloading it?
Reply #24 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:35 AM
| think that would be to show appreciation and support for that artisits hard work and effort, while trying to maintain a non biased opinion of it.. |
How can you tell how well a Toyota Tacoma handles unless you drive one. How can you rate a skin without downloading it?
paxx
Reply #25 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:35 AM
Reply #25 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:35 AM
I think what would be nice is to have the rating buttons disabled by default, then have them "activated" when the download button has been clicked.
As far as download numbers, they don't mean a thing. You download something, you don't like it, then you rate it a 2. Counts as a download, but you still hated it.
As far as download numbers, they don't mean a thing. You download something, you don't like it, then you rate it a 2. Counts as a download, but you still hated it.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #26 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:37 AM
Reply #26 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:37 AM
| I think what would be nice is to have the rating buttons disabled by default, then have them "activated" when the download button has been clicked. |
Double Zero
Reply #27 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:37 AM
Reply #27 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:37 AM
::nods:: I most definitely agree with you there sleeping Dragon..I apologize for not completely understanding what you meant.
Zero.
Zero.
gooberbean28
Reply #28 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:37 AM
Reply #28 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:37 AM
I may be wrong but isnt there a certain rank if you rate alot of skins .I was looking at stats in users homepages and there is an amount of rates then in parenthesis it has rank. Do some people think the more things they rate they'll become #1 raters?lol Enlighten me if I'm wrong 
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #29 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:42 AM
Reply #29 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:42 AM
no prob 00. I think there is a person or two that is attempting to become king o' the rates, gooberbean28.
Double Zero
Reply #30 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:43 AM
Reply #30 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:43 AM
As a reflection,
The preview of a skin does reveal quite a bit about it, and definitely sways my decision either way about whether or not to indeed download it..But,,unless you actually download it and use it, the fact remains..there is no one you can ultimatley give it any type of fair rating.
Zero.
The preview of a skin does reveal quite a bit about it, and definitely sways my decision either way about whether or not to indeed download it..But,,unless you actually download it and use it, the fact remains..there is no one you can ultimatley give it any type of fair rating.
Zero.
gooberbean28
Reply #31 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:46 AM
Reply #31 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:46 AM
lol, SD guess some people want to be numero uno of everything, but it is a serious problem because of this rating fiasco some good skinners have left WC and others are just plain tired of it, 
Which is a shame because of this there's alot of good skins we'll never see 
Which is a shame because of this there's alot of good skins we'll never see 
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #32 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:49 AM
Reply #32 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:49 AM
I think (and nobody asked for my opinion) that it is in this site's best interest to do away with the ratings altogether.
gooberbean28
Reply #33 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:01 AM
Reply #33 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:01 AM
Or double zeros idea a dual rating an average citizen rating to see how the average joe likes it and another rating by journeyman and higher that are more knowledgable about skin making???? And if its a 4 or higher by your superiors or a 1 or 2 by average joe the superiors ratings take precedent over the average citizens?? Just a thought.
Double Zero
Reply #34 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:03 AM
Reply #34 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:03 AM
Dont the ratings serve as perhaps an added incentive for some artisits to keep creating? The comments are great way for people to interact with that artisit, a pat on the back, good job..etc..etc.. but we all know that most of the time people tend to DL and there gone, no comment, no thank you..zilch. Some of the skins all the artists have to go by is the rating they have recieved due to that very thing. I am sure some of the newer artists definitely aspire to have their work rated highly, perhaps as high as some of their own favorite artists that have inspired them to give skinning a shot..
I think the rating system is a decent incentive to some so I disagree with removing it altogether.But I do agree with the fact that it has to perhaps be restructured and There should be a set of criteria for ratings.
Zero.
I think the rating system is a decent incentive to some so I disagree with removing it altogether.But I do agree with the fact that it has to perhaps be restructured and There should be a set of criteria for ratings.
Zero.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #35 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:07 AM
Reply #35 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:07 AM
yeah, you're right, Zero. It just seems that they are (and maybe always have been) the cause of quite a bit of dissension.
gooberbean28
Reply #36 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:13 AM
Reply #36 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:13 AM
Zero sometimes the ratings also cause good skinners to disappear from WC too I like your dual rating idea!
I like your dual rating idea!
Old_Crab
Reply #37 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:20 AM
Reply #37 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:20 AM
Old Crab is going back to his old system.
This thread is - Crab Rated: 9.44
This thread is - Crab Rated: 9.44
Double Zero
Reply #38 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:22 AM
Reply #38 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:22 AM
Ty Gooberbean, it was just a thought I threw out there after I read the 1st post of Filko?? (Im sorry if I got that SN wrong)in the thread he began.. There has got to be other alternatives and answers other than quiting.. I was just hoping to get people to start looking more to the positive..You guys know what the problems are..ya gotta focus more on the solutions..
And it didnt look like thats where it was going..LoL..
Zero.
And it didnt look like thats where it was going..LoL..
Zero.
Boss019
Reply #39 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:30 AM
Reply #39 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:30 AM
And yes gooberbean, some do it only for the ratings dispite what you may think....tons of screenshots, ports, meaningless comments and ratings on every skin they can find, just to get a high count in skin comments and skin ratings and downloads..., you seem to be blind to that fact concerning some of your friends, but it is the truth ..
gooberbean28
Reply #40 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:45 AM
Reply #40 Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:45 AM
Boss I know people do it just for the ratings. Friends? everybody is my friend , you are a friend.I try to get along with everybody.Why jump on me, I have no control over other people, have I ever done it? No. Have I done something to you that you seem to not like me?
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Reply #21 Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:12 AM