Kaleidoscope...
Monday, August 2, 2004 by tankfu | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
http://kaleidoscope.net/schemes/new.shtml
There are some great, quality interface themes there...
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Reply #2 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:02 PM
http://www.kaleidoscope.net/schemes/schemespotlight.shtml
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed in how crappy the majority of WindowBlind themes are. A lot of them are headed in a really good direction, but take a turn for the terrible with bad typefaces or contrast problems, etc.... I'd LOVE to see some from the spotlight section make their way into WB....
Reply #3 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:05 PM
Ahh...lots to learn tankfu.
Reply #4 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:20 PM
The problem, as I see it, is the same here as it is anywhere: people don't care about the quality of their work. I deal with designers everyday that hand in sloppy work, great ideas and poor execution, powerful form and no follow-through. No one cares about what they do as long as they can get a little pat on the back from one of their on-line buddies or they can get their check at the end of the week. Whatever it is the least they can do to "get by".
Again, don't get me wrong. I like A LOT of the themes and respect the folks who make them for taking the time to do it (lord knows I certainly won't), but it would be nice to find the same kind of enthusiasm and appreciation for hard work in this community as there was in the Kaliedoscope community. I know for a fact that a few of the people who submitted great work at that site have gone on to careers in interface design. Something to think about... the guys who made "This Land" didn't get paid to make it, but they put a lot of work into it anyway...
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Reply #6 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:41 PM
Someone please give this thread the attention it deserves and lock it.
Reply #7 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:45 PM
Reply #8 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:56 PM
Reply #9 Monday, August 2, 2004 10:59 PM
How about instead of locking it that people just try to be civil.
Tankfu: Yes, there are a few Kaleidoscope ports to WindowBlinds but not that many. While Kaleidosocpe themes may look nice in the little preview screenshot, most of htem are little more than bitmap substitutions that make the Mac look like an out of control candy land.
There are LOTS of really good WindowBlinds skins out there. It's a matter of taste of course.
But porting a kaleidscope theme is a lot of work and getting permission is often difficult. I ported a few myself long long ago.
Reply #10 Monday, August 2, 2004 11:12 PM
Then again, I'm probably just being over sensitive...
Reply #11 Monday, August 2, 2004 11:16 PM
Some of the kaliedescope stuff looks cool.
Reply #12 Monday, August 2, 2004 11:22 PM
Actually, if you sort through the library from the oldes to the newest you can see that styles have changed a lot, even here. One of my favorite things to do is to go back to the very beginning of Stardock and browse the oldest skins.
Things changed, styles did and people did. And keep in mind, here is a community where people are at all stages some submitting their first and some greats submitting theirs. All are welcome and you would be impressed to sit and watch them grow... given enough encouragement...
Reply #14 Monday, August 2, 2004 11:36 PM
um... well if you go to the windowblind library, search by created, and choose show by ascending, you will see them and many, many other beautiful skins. I'm sorry, i was in a hurry...
Last one is notebook by Hideaki Kamada
third was WBmania by D.A.K.
Reply #15 Monday, August 2, 2004 11:39 PM
The last skin was notebook (I know because I did that port).
Yrag, I didn't personally attack any individuals. Also, last time I checked, I owned the site. But by all means, continue antagonizing me. I can say this, Journeymen don't call people "morons" and then snap at the site owner. Especially ones who don't have any skins on the site.
Getting back to the topic, the Mac has a much higher density of graphics designers which I think lends to why so many Kaleidsocope skins were of great artistic quality.
It was also very difficult to create kaleidsoscope skins but not technically difficult (if you know what I mean) whereas WindowBlinds skins are easy to create but technically difficult to create high quality ones. Hope that makes sense!
Reply #16 Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:45 AM
Ampulla, AmpullaCu, Iron Horse, Capsulla, Moonbase, Marianas.
Some of the best skinning around, and a real ground breaker at the time.
Kaliedescope's Skinz always reminded me of the old EFX Type of skinz.
Not many probably remember that program. Takes me way.. way back.
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?wp=2&Sort=updatedate&searchtext=allen%20bond&Order=Descending&library=1
Windowblinds Link to Allen Bonds Stuff
Reply #17 Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:47 AM
Seen some of his stuff though 
Reply #18 Tuesday, August 3, 2004 5:22 AM
In my early days I used to spend a lot of tmie at the site just looking for inspiration, even did a few personal ports as well.
It's a shame the level of creatvity displayed in that scene is very rare these days.
Reply #19 Tuesday, August 3, 2004 6:34 AM
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?wp=1&sort=updatedate&searchtext=allen%20bond&Order=Descending&library=1
Actual Link
Reply #20 Tuesday, August 3, 2004 6:41 AM
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Reply #1 Monday, August 2, 2004 9:57 PM
Kaleidoscope was basically WindowBlinds for the Mac before OS X...