question of art
Thursday, July 29, 2004 by No Rules | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
i have this question in my mind about art and it puzzels me at times. first off i do not want 2 start any arguments here, just some thoughts and opinins PLEASE. the question is, is something good because of the way it was made or because of its appearance.
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bordfryr
Reply #2 Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:46 PM
Reply #2 Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:46 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I guess it's the way it looks. 
IPlural
Reply #3 Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:21 PM
Reply #3 Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:21 PM
For me the Art is in the talent and style used as a true craftsman forms different materials into something new.
From the first thought to the end product (idol) there is a mix of things which lend to what most consider to be art.
That is the art from my perspective, but at the same time the idol (product of the art) being added to the whole or subtracting from it is what I feel most people think of when they say Art.
For what it is worth I have read the posts about a 4 year old with a crayon could do better on some library submissions. Well, a guy in NYC drew Stick People everywhere and ended up with a Art show which drew people from around the world, he also became a millionaire in the end...
imagine that...
From the first thought to the end product (idol) there is a mix of things which lend to what most consider to be art.
That is the art from my perspective, but at the same time the idol (product of the art) being added to the whole or subtracting from it is what I feel most people think of when they say Art.
For what it is worth I have read the posts about a 4 year old with a crayon could do better on some library submissions. Well, a guy in NYC drew Stick People everywhere and ended up with a Art show which drew people from around the world, he also became a millionaire in the end...
imagine that...
craeonics
Reply #4 Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:28 PM
Reply #4 Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:28 PM
It is (ofcourse) the synergy of the two that matters. What is it with people and binary thinking?
wulfn1
Reply #7 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:01 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:01 PM
lol that must be right, my beer-holder think's I'm beautiful (VvvvvV)
IPlural
Reply #9 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:08 PM
Till he wakes up and thinks "Where am I, and who is that while looking down and seeing painted pink toe nails and then, OM MY GOD!when looking to the lower left of the bed " I hope she has hairy feet and just happen to not paint her thick yellow toe nails, erk and didn't shave her legs for a year!"
Now, catching persons face in a picture forever holding it in that moment of time would be Art
might also be worth some serious money
Reply #9 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:08 PM
| "Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder" |
Till he wakes up and thinks "Where am I, and who is that while looking down and seeing painted pink toe nails and then, OM MY GOD!when looking to the lower left of the bed " I hope she has hairy feet and just happen to not paint her thick yellow toe nails, erk and didn't shave her legs for a year!"
Now, catching persons face in a picture forever holding it in that moment of time would be Art
might also be worth some serious money
IPlural
Reply #10 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:10 PM
: dum, dum, da dum, ba dum ba dum, can't touch this, dum dum dum dum, ba dum ba da dum, can't touch this :
yeah, probably was best, for me also, I'm a dufus when it comes to this because I am the dufus who feels there is at least one point of perfection in everything...
really really
Reply #10 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:10 PM
| I don't think I'm going to touch this... |
: dum, dum, da dum, ba dum ba dum, can't touch this, dum dum dum dum, ba dum ba da dum, can't touch this :
yeah, probably was best, for me also, I'm a dufus when it comes to this because I am the dufus who feels there is at least one point of perfection in everything...
really really
_footsie_
Reply #11 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:15 PM
Reply #11 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:15 PM
they don't call it 'not shaving'......it's called payback
I don't drink beer
I don't drink beer
wulfn1
Reply #12 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:24 PM
Reply #12 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:24 PM
lol footsie
aw go ahead mp, say whatcha wanna. I don't mind
aw go ahead mp, say whatcha wanna. I don't mind
No Rules
Reply #13 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:51 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:51 PM
this is kool 2 me, ppl sharing thoughts without gettin upset, could this b a new form of art, lol, l8rz.
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Winmodify
Reply #14 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:41 AM
Reply #14 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:41 AM
I compare it with a photograph
It should say something when you look of it. It must get you thinking, it like when you look at 100 photographs in a hurry, you will stop at certain ones. Those ones jump out, and makes a statement.
When you will see a photograph of an older person, maybe half nekkid and the dude is ugly. Some people will say, that picture sucks. But there is where the photographer comes is, If he works with the ligting/contrast and stuff like that, Those picture will come out very nice too.
So for everybody its different to experience a good of bad photograph, i dont even think there are bad photographs, only unexperienced person...
It should say something when you look of it. It must get you thinking, it like when you look at 100 photographs in a hurry, you will stop at certain ones. Those ones jump out, and makes a statement.
When you will see a photograph of an older person, maybe half nekkid and the dude is ugly. Some people will say, that picture sucks. But there is where the photographer comes is, If he works with the ligting/contrast and stuff like that, Those picture will come out very nice too.
So for everybody its different to experience a good of bad photograph, i dont even think there are bad photographs, only unexperienced person...
Jafo
Reply #15 Friday, July 30, 2004 2:08 AM
Reply #15 Friday, July 30, 2004 2:08 AM
Something is 'good' to you because it appeals to your specific criteria or taste.
For something to be generally acclaimed to be 'good' it satisfies/appeals to a wider sampling of opinion....at which stage it 'may' be influenced through a desire to fit in with public opinion or worse still, be a parroting of critics' choice. [others say it's good so it MUST be good].
Skins are not strictly 'art' as they can and do include specifics of 'design' which in itself is not 'expression' as such.
Architecture and Industrial Design in particular are artforms but transcend classical Art's 'appearance and emotional representation or even story-telling' and require an inherent function response.
Skinning is more closely related to Architecture than it is to Fine Art.
Dunno if that helps you any....
MindlessPuppet
Reply #17 Friday, July 30, 2004 2:53 AM
Very well said...
*cough* Bullshit *cough* :
Reply #17 Friday, July 30, 2004 2:53 AM
| Skins are not strictly 'art' as they can and do include specifics of 'design' which in itself is not 'expression' as such. |
Very well said...
| Skinning is more closely related to Architecture than it is to Fine Art. |
*cough* Bullshit *cough* :
Jafo
Reply #18 Friday, July 30, 2004 3:45 AM
Reply #18 Friday, July 30, 2004 3:45 AM
Mindless....I'm an Architect and a skinner.....go heave.
Tiggz
Reply #19 Friday, July 30, 2004 3:46 AM
I see your point however I think it's up to the skin author to express themselves within the constraints of the design.
Reply #19 Friday, July 30, 2004 3:46 AM
| Skins are not strictly 'art' as they can and do include specifics of 'design' which in itself is not 'expression' as such. |
I see your point however I think it's up to the skin author to express themselves within the constraints of the design.
Essencay
Reply #20 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:15 PM
I see it that way....whereas making a wall is more a matter of art....WBSkins have a function they need to perform, much like designing a building or a car.
Essencay wonders when he will move beyond the Trabant stage of skinning
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Reply #20 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:15 PM
| Skinning is more closely related to Architecture than it is to Fine Art. |
I see it that way....whereas making a wall is more a matter of art....WBSkins have a function they need to perform, much like designing a building or a car.
Essencay wonders when he will move beyond the Trabant stage of skinning
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Reply #1 Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:42 PM
WOM will not touch this .
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