question of art
Thursday, July 29, 2004 by No Rules | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
i have this question in my mind about art and it puzzels me at times. first off i do not want 2 start any arguments here, just some thoughts and opinins PLEASE. the question is, is something good because of the way it was made or because of its appearance.
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ToeJo
Reply #22 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:55 PM
Reply #22 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:55 PM
Case in point...Most of us would not call this https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=8&SkinID=7207 art. 
But we do appreciate the message it presents.
At the same time, there are people who do appreciate it and would call it art. They appreciate it for a completly different reason.
Art is a complicated mix of many more things than how it was made and what it looks like. We could debate what those things are for 100 years and never get to the heart of it.
Heck...some would say that "Art" is a label someone puts on something just to make money.
But we do appreciate the message it presents.
At the same time, there are people who do appreciate it and would call it art. They appreciate it for a completly different reason.
Art is a complicated mix of many more things than how it was made and what it looks like. We could debate what those things are for 100 years and never get to the heart of it.
Heck...some would say that "Art" is a label someone puts on something just to make money.
MindlessPuppet
Reply #23 Friday, July 30, 2004 2:46 PM
I just don't think it's more one than the other. I think skinning is as much art as design.
Reply #23 Friday, July 30, 2004 2:46 PM
| Mindless....I'm an Architect and a skinner.....go heave. |
I just don't think it's more one than the other. I think skinning is as much art as design.
Jafo
Reply #24 Friday, July 30, 2004 7:13 PM
Reply #24 Friday, July 30, 2004 7:13 PM
| just don't think it's more one than the other. I think skinning is as much art as design. |
If that's your opinion....say so....just fix your 'cough' while you're at it.
horiz0n
Reply #25 Friday, July 30, 2004 10:39 PM
Reply #25 Friday, July 30, 2004 10:39 PM
art vs means of making it....the appearance is always important, but the means of getting there is another story. Take for example "presets", yeah....the models and shapes you found and use do make good art......THANK THE PERSON WHO MADE IT!! But yeah, a lot of work for "someone" still went into it, thank those people. Bryce blobs take you 43.2 seconds to make? Sure, but how long did it take the programmer to make that possible. Who puts more work into it...the guy at Wal-Mart that mixes the paint, or the guy that MADLY FLINGS IT ONTO A CANVAS!?
Art, noun: Creative or imaginative activity, especially the expressive arrangement of elements within a medium.
Go figure
Art, noun: Creative or imaginative activity, especially the expressive arrangement of elements within a medium.
Go figure
IPlural
Reply #26 Saturday, July 31, 2004 2:04 AM
thinking about that, it leaves to many visions of anal projectile painting and other various nasty visions fitting into it...
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Reply #26 Saturday, July 31, 2004 2:04 AM
| From the first thought to the end product (idol) there is a mix of things which lend to what most consider to be art. |
thinking about that, it leaves to many visions of anal projectile painting and other various nasty visions fitting into it...
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Tiggz
Reply #29 Saturday, July 31, 2004 4:26 AM
you can give 2 people the same palette of presets - it's entirely possible for 1 person to create a work of art and for the other person to create a pile of... er, well, you know
it's not what you've got, it's what you do with it...althought the former may influence the latter, hehe
Reply #29 Saturday, July 31, 2004 4:26 AM
| Take for example "presets", yeah....the models and shapes you found and use do make good art...... |
you can give 2 people the same palette of presets - it's entirely possible for 1 person to create a work of art and for the other person to create a pile of... er, well, you know
it's not what you've got, it's what you do with it...althought the former may influence the latter, hehe
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Reply #21 Friday, July 30, 2004 1:37 PM
At the same time, something could be appreciated but not really be art. I "Appreciate" my keyboard but I wouldn't call it "Art."
Therefore, "Art" is more than how it was made and how it looks. Many more factors come in to play. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but art is something else all together.
I think I confused myself.