The Rating System is going to be changing..

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Okay, we've made posts and news items trying to get people to rate things in a reasonable manner but all have failed.

As someone else correctly wrote, the rating system here is a JOKE.

There are basically two problems: People who rate everything high and griefers who go around sabotaging other people's ratings.

The new system WILL work as follows. Yes, most of you will be ticked off for different reasons. Tough. The system is broken, we're going to fix it. Play time is over. It will work this way:

There will be a WEIGHT used to calculate the ratings. A rating by a citizen will counts a 1Xtheir rating. An apprentice 2X their rating, Master Apprentice 3X their rating and so on.

So when an admin or moderator rates a skin, it matters.  Now, the default rating from moderation will still only count as a weight of 1. But as people deliberately put in the effort to rate something, it will matter. 

Yes, it's unfair. It's unequal, whatever.  But the current system has become meaningless.

I have seen excellent ObjectDock icons get ratings of 4 because some griefer comes along and gives a bunch of them 1 totally counter balancing an admin rating of 7 (where the admin in question makes icons for a living).

I'm not sure when we'll get to this. It's pretty high on the priority list. This will probably result in a more skins going down in rating than skins going up in rating. A rating of 5 is an average looking skin. NOT 8. Some people seem to rate things as if anything under an 8 is bad. No, 5 is AVERAGE. Most skins should be rated at around a 5. Not 8.

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meat
Reply #81 Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:04 AM
I guess this isn't the forum for this but it is along the same vein. I have a bit of an issue with the citizen/apprentice system. Insofar as people that pay $50 a year for object desktop being "only" citizens and having a 1x vote. I've been a loyal subscriber and a semi-active submitter for quite some time now but my vote only counts for 1x because I haven't paid for additional services?



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kongit
Reply #82 Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:06 AM
object desktop owners don't get a vote. You have to have bought a wincustomize subscription, or be promoted to apprentice or above to vote.
paxx
Reply #83 Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:16 AM

Passing grade in US schools is 70%? Really?  Interesting... In Canada, it's 60%.  But I like the US way better, if it's really 70%.  The problem with a 60% passing grade is that it means that you didn't understand 40% of what you learned, and that you'll need to understand in order to learn the new subjects in the following grade.  How are you supposed to understand what the teacher is talking about when 40% of what he assumes you know is way over your head.

Anyway, the school system and the ratings here are two different issues.  It's not like you have to have a 7 in order to be permitted to make your next skin.  But wheather it's because of my schooling system, or I don't know what, but I still consider 60% as "average" and 70% as "satisfactory".  But it all depends on what you expect and what you know you're capable of. To go back to school comparison, if I got a 70% in math, I was quite happy, but if I got 70% in Litterature, History or Geography, thhan I was disapointed cause I knew I could do better.

kona0197
Reply #84 Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:37 AM
It's not like you have to have a 7 in order to be permitted to make your next skin.


If that ever came true it would suck.
Essencay
Reply #85 Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:42 AM
Yeah I should have said acceptable or average mark rather than passing. I think passing is in the mid 60's here....a "D" mark, but it wasn't anymore acceptable when I was growing up than a "F" mark or an incomplete.

Frogboy I like the 1-5 stars idea. and why not just define them with words vs. just numbers to help people better accept and undestand a rating

***** - Best (10) The epitomy of skinning blab blab blab
**** - Better (8-9) Top artistry, talent, blab blab blab
*** - Good (5-7) Basic and complete, nothing Wows you, blab blab blab
** - Average (3-4) Developing artist, missing elements, blab blab blab
* - Poor (1-2) Why is this posted here blab blab blab
kona0197
Reply #86 Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:46 AM
I was just thinking last night about a word system instead of a star system.
werewolf
Reply #87 Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:41 PM
Great plan!! Nice to see it happen, sad that it had to be implemented.



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